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Unveiling the BYXCO "Black Magic" Honing Plate

Discussion in 'Maintenance, Tinkering & Embellishment' started by FortyTwoBlades, Apr 28, 2019.

  1. Ourorboros

    Ourorboros

    261
    Jan 23, 2017
    Thank-you, the pictures helped me out.
    I'm definitely looking forward to this, especially if the 8x2 price is in the ballpark of the 4x4.
     
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  2. hoplite.308

    hoplite.308

    6
    Jun 20, 2009
    Has anyone received one of these yet, and if so, what is your impression?
     
  3. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    We've been a little backed up the past week or two with a large volume of orders, so several of the orders for these just went out today. I'd expect you'll probably start seeing feedback in about a week since folks will probably need a bit of time to form an impression of them. :)
     
  4. Baron Mind

    Baron Mind

    92
    Mar 30, 2018
    I'm very interested in one of these. I have a Spyderco Ultrafine in a 2x8 that I really liked. When I went to get one in an edge pro format (my favorite size to freehand on) they were sold out, so I picked up a Zirconia hardened Ceramic stone from gritomatic. It's not bad, but it's not as fine as I hoped. I've been trying to move away from ceramic finishing stones, but I don't think I can quit them. I've been using the zirconia ceramic loaded with diamond spray, but yes, I might have to try this SiC plate. Also I have a set of SiC stones that I like a good bit, so a SiC ceramic plate is very exciting.
     
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  5. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    If you need your zirconia stone graded finer you can try lapping it with fine lapidary diamond on plate glass. Because of the hardness of the bond with sintered stones you can basically make them cut however you'd like within a reasonable range (all on the fine end, of course) just by refinishing with different grades of lapidary grit. They're functioning in an almost file-like manner where the physical structure is what's doing the cutting, though it's the hardness of the grains that allows them to bite into the steel in the first place.
     
  6. Danketch

    Danketch Gold Member Gold Member

    571
    Apr 27, 2007
    How would this stone work on something like M390? Possible use like a strop?
     
  7. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    It'll abrade anything that silicon carbide can cut. Since it's used as a final finishing stone, it should work fine on high-vanadium steels, though it'll need the surface redressed sooner than if used on steels with lower vanadium carbide content. It'd be more problematic if you were trying to do significant material removal.

    Edit to add: in short, it should do fine within its intended context of use, much like how sintered alumina ceramics are able to provide good results when used in this sort of context, except that the silicon carbide will wear slower and need re-dressing less often between that higher hardness and the improved friability of the grains.
     
    Last edited: May 10, 2019
  8. Baron Mind

    Baron Mind

    92
    Mar 30, 2018
    I'd love to see one of these make it into our EDGE SNOBS sharpening pass around group on Facebook....

    Message me if interested.
     
  9. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    We've got a 2x4 version available now, I just need to find the time to get it up on the website.
     
  10. Baron Mind

    Baron Mind

    92
    Mar 30, 2018
    That is exciting. I'll keep an eye out for it. When I was in the market for a Spyderco Ultrafine in 1x6, they were sold out everywhere. I ended up buying a Zirconia Ceramic stone from gritomatic. It's not bad, but it seems to burnish more than cut, and even still the finish isn't quite as fine as I would like.
     
  11. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    2x4 plates now available, as well. I keep one of these in my pack and use it as my touch-up stone.

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  12. Mr.Wizard

    Mr.Wizard

    351
    Feb 28, 2015
    Have you considered a honing rod made from this material? Is that practical?
     
  13. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    We hope to be able to offer such a thing in the future, though the timeline for such is unclear.
     
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  14. bucketstove

    bucketstove

    Sep 23, 2014
    Hi,
    Google "hexoloy tube" :)
     
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  15. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    I'm not sure what the surface finish is like on that stuff--have you used it personally? Sintered materials depend on their surface finish for their abrasive action much more so than conventional bonded stones since they essentially don't shed grit. Some materials as-fired have a fairly pebbly surface texture, and I don't think a smooth surface is typically necessary for refractory materials.
     
  16. bucketstove

    bucketstove

    Sep 23, 2014
    Hi,
    No i haven't used it personally,
    but since its made from submicron powder ... 64microinches = 1.6256 microns

    It requires minimum machining.
    The as-fired surface finish of Hexoloy silicon carbide
    parts is excellent (about 64 microinches).
     
  17. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    You can think of sintered materials as being essentially like a monolithic piece of material, so they function almost more like a file does. Hence why the specific surface finish matters so much, and my curiosity regarding any direct experience with the material. :)
     
  18. bucketstove

    bucketstove

    Sep 23, 2014
    Yes, I do understand ... coffee cups and floor tile sticks ;)
     
  19. Baron Mind

    Baron Mind

    92
    Mar 30, 2018
    Any Baryonyx coupon codes available to celebrate the release of this groundbreaking new product?
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2019
  20. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    I've never issued coupon codes for the website, as I prefer to adopt the "everyday low prices" model so it's always the best time to buy. I just set the lowest margins I'm able to have while remaining sustainable and let things be from there. :)
     
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