Urban Defense League

Tyrkon--kudos for the diligence to practice! Makes all the difference in the world. I very much agree with what our esteemed experts have to say here; but would like to comment that in a stressful situation, I've seen folks miss targets almost close enough to touch! :eek: Working at all possible distances seems the best course to me. :D

A girl needs a knife...and shoots a .45 Randall.
 
azshaman said:
Tyrkon--kudos for the diligence to practice! Makes all the difference in the world. I very much agree with what our esteemed experts have to say here; but would like to comment that in a stressful situation, I've seen folks miss targets almost close enough to touch! :eek: Working at all possible distances seems the best course to me. :D

A girl needs a knife...and shoots a .45 Randall.
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Agreed. Tyrkon, you might take up hunting if you don't already. I've read, more than once, where commanding officers have commented on how country boys made good soldiers, in part because they were already used to taking the shot in stressfull situations. Of course, those turkey and deer weren't firing back at them. :D
 
Mindset + tools = Success.

You'll be fine, Tyrkon! :D :thumbup:

I personally like these three, but have other options always available to me.


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Depending on the threat - these should do for a start. And like Rat-30 I have several other options if things start to get serious :) :thumbup:

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You've gotten some great advice TL.

Like Guyon said, it's hard to beat a shorter turkey gun for home protection. I love my AR but it's no shotgun at close range. As he said the shotgun is much safer in the house.

That and an AD for EDC and you should be set:thumbup:

Never hurts to practice and shoot as much as you can. Makes you feel more confident with guns and will make you a much better shot.
Shooting .22 rimfire will save you alot of money over time and are a joy to shoot.

I like to shoot these for cheap rimfire practice
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Rat-30 said:
Mindset + tools = Success.
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I think I'd add one more thing: Mindset + Tools + Training (or Practice) = Success

Rat-30 may include training as part of "mindset," however.

MORIMOTOM points out that we tend to fall back on our training. I've taken a couple of pistol classes here in TN, and this same idea was echoed in both of them. In stressed situations, people go on auto-pilot, and it's good to know that you have an auto-pilot you can count on. Along these lines, I'm trying to get my wife to take the basic class that qualifies you for a carry permit in TN, and I want to take it with her as a review for myself. Also, I'd like to take a HD shotgun class in the near future.

I mention hunting above because I think it helps the shooter in a lot of different ways. Having hunted birds and deer since I was little: (1) I know the devastating impact of firing on a living creature, and I take it and the accompanying responsibility very seriously, (2) I know a little more about shooting under pressure to succeed, (3) I'm familiar with a variety of firearms and their usage.
 
I wish I had a dog that could hunt lobster. :p
 
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Nice NOe in the back there.

Those S&W 3rd Generation pistols get insufficient respect. My 4516 has never bobbled in the thousands of rounds it has through it. I have an Alessi Talon for it that is ridiculously effective.

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Guyon said:
I think I'd add one more thing: Mindset + Tools + Training (or Practice) = Success

Rat-30 may include training as part of "mindset," however.
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I did exclude the 'training/practice' aspect of the equation on purpose - I wanted someone else to bring it up... :)

I had an epiphany after passing my concealed carry class in Texas circa 1997, I *really* didn't know how to DEPLOY and shoot a handgun under stress. I had qualified High Expert with M-16 and Marksman with M9 pistol during my service, but I was unprepared for shooting a pistol with the skill required for self-defense in our litigous society... So...

Although I have been a hunter for many years, and shoot rifles and pistols on a regular basis - I knew I could do better. I decided to get some training, and practice shooting under stress. I began to also practice IDPA, and sought tips and training from the better pistoleros local to me in the Dallas area. I did ok, and actually found a few people that guided me along the way. I became what I consider *proficient* with a handgun.

I also took several combat handgun classes, carbine(AR-15) classes, urban shotgun classes, long distance precision classes, etc. I expanded my training to meet my mindset. I became *proficient* with my handgun, short rifle (AR), long rifle (bolt-action) and shotgun. I too can operate, field strip and maintain many different types of firearms. It's good to know how things work. :)

Post 9/11 I've focused on empty hands and contact-range - I can't take the things I used to take with me when I travel, and since I have to go, I take what is always with me.

Trying to keep on Topic -- my personal preferences:
Inside: Dog, handgun, shotgun,
Outside: carbine, shotgun, handgun

I can still shoot farther with my pistol than I can with my shotgun, but I like the energy of the shotgun at 15 yards and under. That covers every shot I have in my house, and why I keep it as my go-to longarm inside.

Outdoors in an Urban Environment -
My personal preference is for the Carbine with proper ammunition. I can better account for each of the projectiles.
Because I cannot take the Carbine into most places with me without getting unwanted 'attention', the Pistol gets the nod for mobility.

I dry-fire practice with my firearms. I won't go into the details here for that for brevity sakes.

I believe you have to program your subconscious mind to ACT. That goes for hands, knives, impact weapons, firearms, and running away. :D

I have spent time THINKING about what to do, when, when not to, when to run. Yes, Run. I plan to survive to fight another day - you have to live to exact REVENGE! :D

PM or email for any more details than that. :thumbup:
 
12 ga is hard to beat .The sound alone of a slide cycling has a sobering effect on most people .
 
I cant believe all the tite ass rules im reading about!!! 1 shot persecond, no close range, no draw and fire, no no no no no no no no!!! Insane!!! I take my class III machine guns, full auto shotguns, 50's, rapid fire drills etc etc etc~ but then again, i live in a free state!!!! GO DUCKS!!!!!! BY THE WAY... NICE BUNCH OF USERS!!!!!!!!WHOO AH!!!!!!
 
rbmcmjr said:
Nice NOe in the back there.

Those S&W 3rd Generation pistols get insufficient respect. My 4516 has never bobbled in the thousands of rounds it has through it. I have an Alessi Talon for it that is ridiculously effective.

Rick
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Yes I think the NO-e is very nice:) :thumbup:

And I am somewhat new to the S&W pistols - but they are UNDERRATED indeed! The triggers on these are excellent and I am shooting single ragged holes in my targets first time - every time. :D:thumbup: My Glocks never did this

And this is also one sweet looking 4516 - something I still need to get my hands on;)
 
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