urban survival , the psycho ward

I hope your wife feels better soon.

This is not an easy situation. Nurses (and all care workers) do not have an easy job. Long hours, high stress, and difficulties that come with dealing with sick people (compounded when they are confused). Sadly this can cause burn-out and a jaded disposition in some nurses. The nurses i work with and know who have been doing their job for decades really amaze me. How they can put up with all the crap they have to deal with day to day, and still be kind and smile, really puts me to shame.

I am no way saying that the questionable behavior you described is justified. I am simply saying, nursing ain't easy.


ps. and i'm not a nurse
 
CaptInsano said:
You need to keep quiet. You are embarrassing yourself with your ignorance. Of course, there's more to it than this quote, it's just a nice illustration of the depth of your ignorance. I hope your wife feels better soon.
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Whaaa??? Come again??? Where in your head and heart did this come from and where were you going with it?
 
CaptInsano said:
You need to keep quiet. You are embarrassing yourself with your ignorance. Of course, there's more to it than this quote, it's just a nice illustration of the depth of your ignorance. I hope your wife feels better soon.
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Have you been institutionalized or something? That's an extremely confrontational remark to say to someone who's clearly trying to cope with the issues related to having a love one stuck in an institution. I strongly doubt that the OP's observations were meant as some form of attack on you or anyone else who is mentally unstable.

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CaptInsano said:
You need to keep quiet. You are embarrassing yourself with your ignorance. Of course, there's more to it than this quote, it's just a nice illustration of the depth of your ignorance. I hope your wife feels better soon.
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Clearly you are a heartless sh*t.
 
We are both seriously touched by the words of support .
Its a big deal to say that , my wife is home here withe tonight :)
I cannot express in words the relief and joy we are feeling right now .

I spent some time explaining stuff to the doctors , they actually listened . They are even making recommendations to the hospital about making changes , Im not very hopeful about anything actually happening but its a start .

we are not out of the woods yet , but we almost are , my wife is still under the official care of the hospital , she isnt discharged yet , but we have a leave , we are home again for a while , the bonus to it is , the meds have my wife more normal now than she was even when we married . Im indebted and grateful to them doctors for knowing their stuff , they were doing their job well even if we did differ kinda greatly about a mad house actually being a "safe and stress free environment"

Thanks again for the words and thoughts , we seriously appreciate it .
 
CaptInsano said:
You need to keep quiet. You are embarrassing yourself with your ignorance. Of course, there's more to it than this quote, it's just a nice illustration of the depth of your ignorance. I hope your wife feels better soon.
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If we were in W&C, I'd give you the response this post deserves. :mad:
 
BoxANT said:
I hope your wife feels better soon.

This is not an easy situation. Nurses (and all care workers) do not have an easy job. Long hours, high stress, and difficulties that come with dealing with sick people (compounded when they are confused). Sadly this can cause burn-out and a jaded disposition in some nurses. The nurses i work with and know who have been doing their job for decades really amaze me. How they can put up with all the crap they have to deal with day to day, and still be kind and smile, really puts me to shame.

I am no way saying that the questionable behavior you described is justified. I am simply saying, nursing ain't easy.


ps. and i'm not a nurse
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I dont envy the nurses , every case is different , but they are in a job where its seriously heart breaking ...
Im dont have a serious grudge against the guys who were less than helpful , I understand the why of it , its just that it was mighty unhelpful for me at that time .
 
CaptInsano said:
You need to keep quiet. You are embarrassing yourself with your ignorance. Of course, there's more to it than this quote, it's just a nice illustration of the depth of your ignorance. I hope your wife feels better soon.
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Interesting username you have there ...

I dont know if you are being humourous or serious , but , in case you are being serious , I did preface the OP with
"this is written from my perspective as husband of a girl who is currently in a psych ward . "

its from my perspective , observing how it works in there , not from a legal point of view from how it is meant to work , it should also be remembered , Im writing from Australia , you may be familiar with the mental health system local to you , Im unfortunately familiar with the mental health system local to me , and the reality of how it works , not the theoretical ideal of how it should work .
 
Myal,
Good job keeping close to your woman, keeping her safe, making enough of a nuisance of yourself to insure that she got effective attention and treatment, and finally getting her released, albeit provisionally. They cared about her, because you cared about her. Results are what matters, and you got a good result. Words, I am sure, cannot adequately express the relief you must feel, and in a small way I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that a few of us in BF truly and deeply share your feelings and wish you and yours nothing but the best. Maybe more than a few...
 
Myal said:
Interesting username you have there ...

I dont know if you are being humourous or serious , but , in case you are being serious , I did preface the OP with
"this is written from my perspective as husband of a girl who is currently in a psych ward . "

its from my perspective , observing how it works in there , not from a legal point of view from how it is meant to work , it should also be remembered , Im writing from Australia , you may be familiar with the mental health system local to you , Im unfortunately familiar with the mental health system local to me , and the reality of how it works , not the theoretical ideal of how it should work .
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I wouldn't pay that too much attention dude. As someone with a background in the field of mental health [It's not what I do now, but my background and training is as a psychologist], I thought you were a little wide of the mark too, but then you're the guy on the ground armed with only what you can see and some of us have seen the other side of the fence. And who wouldn't be surprised at your frustration and anger at seeing your loved one going through that. For sure CaptInsano went beyond disagreement and was terse to the point of crass insensitivity, but I doubt he meant any ill. Bloody timing could have been better though sport.

I'm especially pleased your girl is making an improvement simply because she is yours. Stay strong amigo. :-)
 
Further reading that might be of interest to people in this thread...Erving Goffman was the sociologist who went and studied the effects of institutionalization on people.

He wrote a number of studies on this topic and the results might surprise people in the mental health field...I am definitely sympathetic to the "doing a difficult job" argument and I am well aware that most institutions allow most patients to check in and check out at will, and that most people are there voluntarily because they feel it is a safer place for them.

However, there is definitely a minority for whom this is not the case (at least in my country.) And if there is one thing I know about institutions in general, it's that once you're in, it's always harder to get out than you think. I believe this applies to everything from universities to prisons to my own personal hell, construction work. But the hardest of all are the live-on-site institutions, and when the requirement to get out is to behave in a "sane, normal manner" it's easy to see how getting out would be tough.

The descriptions of jaded, indifferent nurses is pretty grim...and also all too accurate, I think. The account of the aggression followed by sudden contrition when they realize the target is a visitor, not a patient, is pretty telling.
 
I feel for you man. Like Sixgunner I worked there. Facilities are different from area to area. Sometimes nurses and assistants like to play Docs because it goes to their heads. Following directions is important. Never had trouble with patients except wife beaters. Hard to care for these kind, also the ones playing the welfare system. Truly got to help some folks that needed it and made the time worth while.
 
mystical woodsman said:
Whaaa??? Come again??? Where in your head and heart did this come from and where were you going with it?
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This came from professional training in my head and a desire to protect people from poor information in my heart. I'm identifying an instructional or informative post with a personal angle as being misinformed and grossly inaccurate.
 
Grimspoon said:
Have you been institutionalized or something? That's an extremely confrontational remark to say to someone who's clearly trying to cope with the issues related to having a love one stuck in an institution. I strongly doubt that the OP's observations were meant as some form of attack on you or anyone else who is mentally unstable.

:thumbdn: :thumbdn: :thumbdn:
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Or something. I would agree that it was way too confrontational and could have been stated much better.
 
Best wishes, Myal, to you and to your wife.

Very glad she is home. I hope things continue to improve.

(ignore the mosquitoes, they are drawn to movement. :) )




Kis
enjoy every sandwich
 
Myal said:
Interesting username you have there ...

I dont know if you are being humourous or serious , but , in case you are being serious , I did preface the OP with
"this is written from my perspective as husband of a girl who is currently in a psych ward . "

its from my perspective , observing how it works in there , not from a legal point of view from how it is meant to work , it should also be remembered , Im writing from Australia , you may be familiar with the mental health system local to you , Im unfortunately familiar with the mental health system local to me , and the reality of how it works , not the theoretical ideal of how it should work .
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I understand that, and it isn't too far from your average person walking into any hospital and trying to get a handle on what's going on. It can get complicated and it doesn't always make sense at a glance. Since this is in Australia, there will be legal differences with which I am not familiar, but your wife is not without Rights as a mental health patient. If you have any questions as to an illness or treatment, I may be able to help without being as much of an asshole.
 
Alright, CaptInsano. Myal posted this thread in hopes that his experiences may provide some help for others who might unfortunately find themselves in a similar situation.

How about a point and counter-point from the original post to help clear up some of these issues. I'm still very curious about this topic, and i'm sure others are as well.

Since you're a "professional" in the industry, please grace us with your experience and insight. Maybe with your help you'll even be able to directly help Myal cope a little bit better next time he's at the hospital.
 
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