URGENT ACTION ALERT: NY Knife Law Reform to Gov. Cuomo - Everyone CALL TODAY!

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Knife Rights' NY Knife Law Reform Bill to Governor Cuomo
Let's Get This Done! CALL the Governor TODAY!​

After three years of effort, Knife Rights' Gravity Knife and Switchblade Law Reform Bill, S6483-A/A9042-A, has been transmitted to Governor Cuomo. If you live, work or travel in New York, or plan to, CALL the Governor TODAY! The Governor now has 10 days (excluding Sunday) to sign or veto the bill (in other words, by end of the year), or allow it to become law without his signature.

The bill passed the Legislature by overwhelming margins, 61-1 in the Senate and 117-12 in the Assembly. This bill will prevent hundred's of bogus arrests every week in New York City. Martin LaFalce of the Legal Aid Society called these arrests and prosecutions "the most discriminatory criminal justice practice in New York State."

LET'S GET THIS DONE! Regardless of your personal views of Governor Cuomo or his politics on any other issue, if you live, work or travel in New York, or plan to, please CALL Governor Cuomo TODAY and simply deliver the message that you are "calling to respectfully request that Governor Cuomo please sign S6483-A/A9042-A," and then thank him. Please be POLITE and RESPECTFUL and REMAIN ON POINT.

This is not the time to berate the Governor about any other political issues - stay on message. IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT, PLEASE DO NOT CALL or EMAIL!

CALL Governor Cuomo TODAY at:
518-474-8390 and Press #3
(Depending on call volume, you may still be asked to leave a message.)

Unfortunately, Governor Cuomo makes it painful to communicate
with him online. If you are a masochist, you can go to:
www.governor.ny.gov/contact and fill out the lengthy form
(for "Topic" select: "Criminal Justice" and for Subject: "S6483-A/A9042-A").
WE RECOMMEND CALLING.
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Again, please be POLITE and RESPECTFUL and REMAIN ON POINT; just deliver the message, "I am calling to respectfully request that the Governor please sign S6483-A/A9042-A," and then thank him. That's it, keep it short, simple and ON POINT and above all BE POLITE and RESPECTFUL.

In addition to Knife Rights, S6483-A/A9042-A has been endorsed by:

Brooklyn Defender Services
Congressional Sportsmen's Foundation
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
JustLeadershipUSA
Legal Aid Society
Local One International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees (AFL-CIO)
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People - Legal Defense Fund
National Rifle Association
New York Civil Liberties Union (NY chapter of ACLU)
New York State Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers
New York State Defenders Association
New York Times Editorial Board
Safari Club International
Sheet Metal Workers International Association (AFL-CIO)
The Katal Center
UAW Local 2325 - Association of Legal Aid Attorneys (AFL-CIO)
Urban Justice Center
U.S. Representative Hakeem Jeffries (D-8)

New York State's Office of Court Administration called for reform of the law to prevent these arrests and prosecutions, although it has not specifically endorsed this bill.

S6483-A/A9042-A, sponsored by Assemblyman Dan Quart and Senator Diane Savino, add clarifying "bias-toward closure" exclusions to the state's gravity knife switchblade definitions, similar to that included in the revision to the Federal Switchblade Act that Knife Rights helped pass in 2009. This clarifying exclusion will prevent the bogus Gravity Knife arrests and prosecutions of honest law-abiding individuals in New York City who are carrying common folding knives, tools that are legal to carry everywhere else in New York State and commonly carried legally throughout the U.S.

Neither Gravity Knives nor Switchblades have a bias towards closure found in common folding knives to keep the blade safely closed in the pocket. Only in New York City has the NYPD and District Attorney Cyrus Vance, Jr. abused the state's gravity knife law to prosecute those carrying common pocket knives by claiming they are illegal Gravity Knives.

The Village Voice newspaper found two years ago that there had been as many as 60,000 gravity-knife prosecutions over the previous decade! Legal Aid Society has confirmed that hundreds of innocent pocket knife carriers are being arrested every week in New York City! You can read the Village Voice article at: http://bit.ly/1MiJbvv


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This is exciting news. If Cuomo signs it I won't feel like I am taking my life in my hands if I carry a pocket knife in NY.
 
I called earlier today. I don't live in NYC, but as a resident of the state, I felt I should stand up for what's right.
 
Great news, it's about time, fingers crossed and knock on wood!

Will this new bill protect people from being arrested for having folding knives clipped to their pockets?
 
Let's see what Cuomo does. Cuomo hates this stuff he was the chief proponent of the "NY SAFE Act" gun grabbing after all as well as a lot of the ridiculous knife laws around NY and the 5 boroughs of NYC. I hope it gets signed. I have been volunteering for a local county knife/firearm owners group to get this one passed for awhile let's hope it pans out.
 
Wolf7 said:
Great news, it's about time, fingers crossed and knock on wood!

Will this new bill protect people from being arrested for having folding knives clipped to their pockets?
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It is supposed to, yes.

Particularly in NYC where they do the worst abuses. They define folding knives like XM-18 for example with a flipper, it's in "switchblade" classification. They stretch the law to make arrests.
 
Wolf7 said:
Will this new bill protect people from being arrested for having folding knives clipped to their pockets?
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Yes and no. This should prevent folks from being literally "arrested" for having an illegal gravity knife, BUT it will still be against NYC Administrative Code to carry a knife clipped to your pocket as that is not concealed. NYC requires all knives be carried concealed. So, you would still be issued a violation ($$$$) and, even though it is absolutely illegal, they will confiscate the knife. <~>
 
SevenOfNine said:
Let's see what Cuomo does. Cuomo hates this stuff he was the chief proponent of the "NY SAFE Act" gun grabbing after all as well as a lot of the ridiculous knife laws around NY and the 5 boroughs of NYC. I hope it gets signed. I have been volunteering for a local county knife/firearm owners group to get this one passed for awhile let's hope it pans out.
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Call Cuomo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I did my part. Everyone here should be calling and/or emailing.

Emphasize that fact that this bill was BIPARTISAN, was passed by HUGE MAJORITIES, and is SUPPORTED BY CIVIL RIGHTS GROUPS.

Good Luck NY and thank you to Critter.
 
I wish you poor guys the best of luck. But relying on Cuomo to uphold your rights; good luck with that nutjob.
 
You have to conceal your knife, but not allowed to conceal your gun. So glad I left. Good luck to those still remaining.
 
as a CRK Dealer some years ago i almost fell victim to a nyc sting operation... I finally figured it out... the guy was trying to buy a green beret knife from me over the phone... i wasnt aware of the nyc laws at that time but he sounded fishy and i figured it out
 
Send email to govnor, lets hope he actually reads it!

Guys here is text you can use for you email to send:
"This email is to respectfully request that Governor Cuomo please sign Bill S6483-A/A9042-A,
this bill was BIPARTISAN, was passed by HUGE MAJORITIES, and is SUPPORTED BY CIVIL RIGHTS GROUPS. Lets end un-just, oppressive, un-constitutional, oppression and prosecution of Law-Abiding, peaceful, NY knife and gun owners. Thank you."
Us New Yorkers need all the help we can get on this, please send emails!!!
 
Critter said:
Yes and no. This should prevent folks from being literally "arrested" for having an illegal gravity knife, BUT it will still be against NYC Administrative Code to carry a knife clipped to your pocket as that is not concealed. NYC requires all knives be carried concealed. So, you would still be issued a violation ($$$$) and, even though it is absolutely illegal, they will confiscate the knife. <~>
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This is the next part of law that needs to be fixed ex: deep pocket carry clips, all you can see is the clip not the knife itself and belt pouches that fully cover up folder should not be considered open carry!
After all it's OK to carry multi-tool in a belt pouch BUT not OK to carry folder?!?!
 
I called. Really hope it gets signed. Have my eye on a few new folders that I would like to carry legally..
 
Wolf7 said:
After all it's OK to carry multi-tool in a belt pouch BUT not OK to carry folder?!?!
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Actually, no, that's a violation of the administrative code. Not as often enforced as if there's a knife clipped to a pocket, but it has been.
 
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