USA made

Sal Glesser

Moderator
Joined
Dec 27, 1998
Messages
11,676
Just for the record.

When we did our investigation on what constitutes made in USA, our investigation indicated that for knives, 95% of the knife had to made from materials made in the USA and 95% of the cost of the labor had to likewise be made in the USA.

Stamping or laser cut, heat treat, surface grinding, bevel grinding, finish polish or tumble, hole reaming, machining (tang ramp), sharpening, spine polish, all must be done in the USA, and that's just the blade.

When we worked with Wal-Mart, the same inforrmation was given to us from Wal-Mart. They wanted to make sure that our Natve was in fact ALL made in the USA. We made the clip for the Native in Japan and they wanted to know that.

For Automobiles considered made in the USA, the percentage was lower, about 75%. That's why so many automobiles are made in "North America".

I can tell you that we cannot possibly make knives in the USA at the prices that I see some companies selling their knives for and claiming that they are 95% - 100% made in the USA.

USA made steel can only come from a few companies. Likewise, USA made G-10 is only made by a few companies. Good G-10 cannot be stamped, which means it must be machined. A reasonably skilled machinist will make $15 - $25 / hour with shop time for that same person being about $40-$50 hour. $50 per hour shop time is $.83 / minute.

Using foreign steel and foreign G-10 processed outside the USA may be made in USA to some, but.....

While I cannot speak for other companies, I can tell you that when Spyderrco makes a knife in the USA, it is made in the USA, parts and labor. If we import parts (like the Spyderfly) it will not say USA made.

Sorry for the rant.

sal
 
And that's another reason that I buy Spyderco. I'm pretty sure I know some companies that are doing the "USA Made" thing that are kinda far from it.

I'm glad that you guys are honest. You folks at Spyderco are honest about everything. It's due to little pieces of info like this that have caused me to be a Spyderco customer for life. Your prices could be out the roof sky high and I will still buy Spyderco because of what you represent.

Nice rant sir.....although, I don't consider it a rant really. It's good information.
 
That's Good to Know,,Thanks Sal:):thumbup:



...you call that a rant??Seems you're just stating facts to me :D
 
Thank you for the information .Sal you are a credit to the industry and we all owe you a debt for your hard work and innovations.
 
Wow, and I was considering a certain AO knife that is boasted as "Made in USA" for $35... Guess I'll have to do some more research.
 
Sal, thank you very much for information.
Now I have even bigger reason to be proud of US made Spydercos.


Hmmm, $40-50/hour... Where do I apply?:D:D

You missed something

A reasonably skilled machinist will make $15 - $25 / hour with shop time for that same person being about $40-$50 hour.

sal

Shop time is $50 (or more). Shop rate is machinist + all other expenses (machine + tools+ oil + rent +taxes+utilities+maintenance + office + benefits and so on)
 
Maybe some companies should called their products "assembled in USA" ? That's not as misleading in my mind. If the steel isn't made in the USA, how can the company consider it "Made in the USA"??
 
Sal, you don't post stuff for no reason, you're a good guy, and you're company is made up of good people. Whatever happened, it won't prevent me from buying any of your knives in the future. You mentioned G10, YOUR G10 is my favorite.
 
Maybe some companies should called their products "assembled in USA" ? That's not as misleading in my mind. If the steel isn't made in the USA, how can the company consider it "Made in the USA"??

I don't necessarily disagree with this statement, but, it would be hard to take the Made In America stamp away from any company that imports a supersteel to make a nice product for the consumers. At the same time that may be why we don't see alot of the oddball Japanese super steels.... me likey all kinds of high end steels.... but me also likey my knives to be built, shaped, and the like right here in the good 'ole USA. Just my 2 cents:thumbup:

Edit: I just looked at my sig line and thought maybe I should qualify....I ain't stirrin' the doodoo, and, no I ain't talking about any company in particular, just addin' the conversation..... carry on....:thumbup::)
 
Last edited:
Sal as a firm believer in your knives and a firm seller of your knives at my job I appreciate your honesty and am always looking for more information on my favorite knives (Spyderco's). Thanks Sal and Sportsman's Warehouse 129 loves ya!

Eric
 
Maybe some companies should called their products "assembled in USA" ? That's not as misleading in my mind. If the steel isn't made in the USA, how can the company consider it "Made in the USA"??
flipe8 Your waving a cod fish, at the Governments here,these are rules set by our so called leaders.
I was in the meat industry for many years, and have seen a lot of sticky tape, if you catch my drift. ;) When Beef is shipped by the car loads from the USA to Canada ..it becomes Canada grade A, B OR C as soon a Canadian butcher puts a knife to it. Grown on US soil but is sold as Canadian beef in your Supermarket.
Figure that one out eh :p
 
Hey Sal, as long as you're sure enough to put the Spyderco name on it, I trust it.
I'm in total agreement with this statement..
clap.gif
 
I'm curious what is meant by 95%. Does it mean 95% by volume, mass, number of parts, worker-hours, cost, or something else? Does manufacturing equipment have to come from America? Or does it simply mean that the "majority" of the knife was made in the US?

It's interesting to see what goes into that "made in america" stamp.
 
I'm curious what is meant by 95%. Does it mean 95% by volume, mass, number of parts, worker-hours, cost, or something else? Does manufacturing equipment have to come from America? Or does it simply mean that the "majority" of the knife was made in the US?

It's interesting to see what goes into that "made in america" stamp.

I was thinking the same thing.
 
Back
Top