Used knife, edge condition description and expectations...

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Well, it seems like the results are in. And the consensus is that I'm being ridiculous with a generous helping of OCD.

I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. I messaged the seller and told him to forget about a refund. Although, I have yet to get a response from him.

After some thought, I think it may be the fact that I've just had so many outstanding transactions with sellers here on the forum. I've become more accustomed to buying "used" knives that turn out to be utterly devoid of defects than a used knife that is actually used. My typical reaction to a purchase here on the Exchange is one of complete satisfaction. I think that speaks volumes about the great community we have here, when the majority of sellers over-scrutinize the knives they're selling.


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I'll try to keep this straight to the point.

This was the description of the knife I bought, "... this one was carried, used some. No issues with it." "Has little bit of blade ware."

This is the condition of the blade I found after receiving it.
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To me "used some" and "little bit of blade wear" means it might not slice paper well, but that certainly doesn't mean the edge needs a full sharpening.

Please feel free to tell me if I'm being ridiculous about my expectations, but I'm a bit irritated.
 
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I'm not going to say your being ridiculous because it's not for me to judge. But had I read that description on a knife I was interested in purchasing I would have expected to see something like that. I think terms like "a little bit of blade wear" are very subjective but the fact that it was included in the listing show an honest attempt to describe a knife that has issues.
 
Rule of thumb is supposed to be that you are overly honest up front about the condition.

Nothing makes me feel better than to hear, 'arrived in better than described condition'.
 
It's a used knife and you knew that when you bought it. The edge of a knife is the part that gets used. Touch it up to your liking and you'll be fine.
 
rustysocket said:
I'm not going to say your being ridiculous because it's not for me to judge. But had I read that description on a knife I was interested in purchasing I would have expected to see something like that. I think terms like "a little bit of blade wear" are very subjective but the fact that it was included in the listing show an honest attempt to describe a knife that has issues.
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I understand that "a little blade wear" is subjective but the chips and rolled edge are noticeable and could have easily been described more thoroughly.

Scurvy092 said:
Rule of thumb is supposed to be that you are overly honest up front about the condition.

Nothing makes me feel better than to hear, 'arrived in better than described condition'.
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This is my approach to selling. I try my best to describe everything in detail and picture any marks, damage, or wear. The last thing I want is an email from a dissatisfied buyer.

TimmyJ said:
It's a used knife and you knew that when you bought it. The edge of a knife is the part that gets used. Touch it up to your liking and you'll be fine.
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Yes it's a used knife. Out of all the used knives I've bought and sold over the nearly three and a half years here on the Exchange, this is one out of less than a handful of knives that I've received with an edge looking like this. A dull edge is acceptable to me. A chipped and rolled edge, to me, warrants mentioning.
 
Of course it could have been described differently, I'm not going to say "better" because again that is subjective.

Have you asked the seller to refund your purchase? I think most people here want to be honest and make each other happy.
 
Right on but your views of blade wear might not be the sellers just saying. I'm not justifying anything I'm just saying I use knives did you buy this to use , hold , flip , safe queen just asking ? To me I buy a knife with someone saying it's been used unless you ask for a photo up close to the blade you just bought a used knife plain and simple. Because I have bought knives with blade ware and I ask for close up photos of the blade I do this to protect myself some I've bought others I've passes on
 
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Again, you bought a used knife knowing that it's been used. It's not ruined or broken. It's just been used and has some "blade ware." Used knives usually do. Sharpen it.
 
TimmyJ said:
Again, you bought a used knife knowing that it's been used. It's not ruined or broken. It's just been used and has some "blade ware." Used knives usually do. Sharpen it.
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I guess the problem here is that the term "used" encompasses such a wide range. To me, a knife that has cut paper once is considered used. If I was selling a knife with a chipped and rolled edge I'd at least say that the edge needs some work. Sellers shouldn't assume that everyone knows how to sharpen.

At any rate, this has less to do with my intentions for the knife or the purpose of the knife as a tool, and more to do with the integrity of sellers here in our community.

I'll admit, I should have inquired more about the condition of the edge considering my expectations, but based on my past experiences most sellers are very forthright about the condition of their knives.

All that being said, I did exchange a few PMs with the seller on Thursday. He agreed to either allow me to return the knife or refund me the cost of getting it sharpened. I PM'd him back, but I have yet to get a reply. Meanwhile he has started another three sale threads, which is a bit disconcerting.
 
Wow. I know we are blade aficionados, but dude.....it's a used knife. It's not as if there were huge chunks missing. Sharpen it. Use it. Move on with life.
 
The real problem here is that "blade ware" doesn't mean anything... Had the seller mentioned blade "wear," then that'd be somewhat of a description.

But I tend to select sellers that know words...YMMV.
 
Not the best edge, but what're you gonna do--send it back for a refund? If it were a knew knife I'd say hell ya, but it's used, so...do you own a knife sharpening system? Looks like a good challenge to me! And CS knives are notoriously easy to sharpen. You chose to go with used knife, so it's up to you to get said knife up to your standards.


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Granted it could use a touch up, but not everyone is supper edge conscious or sharpens to mirror finishes. Being a used knife I would just bring the edge to my liking. I got one back where the guy said he was unhappy with the edge. To this day I have no idea what the problem was other then a little dust(and I did wipe it down before sending ,so not sure how I missed it). I say the same thing about new knives though. If they don't come as sharp as you like, sharpen them-they are knives.
Maybe I am not critical enough, but little things don't bother me
 
It is a used knife and while every ones definition of "blade wear" may be different, the blade I see in your picture meets the broad definition. I would not call it damaged, so I would just sharpen it and move on.
 
He offered to refund you the cost of sharpening? How do you value your own time with this? I see comments all of the time about having knives sharpened "professionally". Doesn't anyone sharpen their own knives anymore?? That edge doesn't look that bad at all. Take out your diamond stone, your sandpaper and your strop and relax for 40 minutes while you put the bevel and edge that you want on there.

If you're truly not happy that you bought a used knife with the mention of blade wear, then send it back. I sure don't know what you expected to see from a used knife. Sure, he could have mentioned it specifically in the sale thread, then again, you could have asked for specifics before committing to the purchase and paying...
 
If that was the photo and the description I wouldn't have blinked twice if the price was too my liking. You can see the edge clearly but even so it looked hardly use and that often time happens with factory edges being a little weaker than the one that you put on it yourself. Those micro chips will sharpen right out.

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This is yet another example of how the seller taking a minute to take some good photos of the knife can alleviate all sorts of hassle and forestall disappointment. Take a good look at the knife you're selling, note any and all aspects of it that make it differ from a brand-new-in-box knife, and then take photographs of all these things. Upload them to an imgur album, copy and paste the link into your sales thread, and you're good to go. Not that difficult.
 
Had that knife been represented as like new or only cut paper or something like that I may of had an issue with it .
"Little bit of blade ware " is subjective possiibly the seller was referring to the edge damage and they feel they described the knife perfectly .

When in doubt ask for more pictures. As long as I didn't pay just a couple bucks off full retail for that knife I'd be good to go. Now if I paid 5 dollars less than msrp thinking I was getting a like-new in box uncarried knife I'd be pissed.

Op did you ask the seller about this before this thread?
 
Since you asked... IMHO, I'd say you're "being ridiculous".

You bought a used knife... it's used. It needs sharpening. No big deal.

Don't like it? Deal with the seller.
 
Your photo shows very minimal edge wear. That looks normal for a used knife, and can be evened out with a few minutes of work. My brother in law took out a 1/8th inch chunk from the same spot on his AUS8 Cold Steel Voyager, while cutting battery cable on his farm. It took me about 20 minutes to resharpen, and blend in the damaged area.
 
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