Used knife, edge condition description and expectations...

[killgar]

This is yet another example of how the seller taking a minute to take some good photos of the knife can alleviate all sorts of hassle and forestall disappointment. Take a good look at the knife you're selling, note any and all aspects of it that make it differ from a brand-new-in-box knife, and then take photographs of all these things. Upload them to an imgur album, copy and paste the link into your sales thread, and you're good to go. Not that difficult.

But some people are so nit-picky that no amount of photos will satisfy them, and they'll always find something wrong with a knife. There are a lot of people who, when they get a knife, the first thing they do is look for things to complain about, and they look HARD. And even if the knife is in great condition, they can still find something to complain about, because they NEED to find something wrong, because that's how their minds work.

And if a seller had a hundred professional photos taken, close-up, from every angle, such people would complain about things that can't be photographed, like blade play or a stiff lock, even if the blade play had to be forced in order to produce it, and even if the stiff lock was completely normal. Some people are never happy, and there's nothing you can do to make them happy.

In regards to the knife in question here, the photo provided by the OP is an EXTREME close-up. And when you take an EXTREME close-up photo of a knife, you can find all sorts of tiny flaws. But I wouldn't blame the seller, or question his honesty and integrity because he didn't inspect the entire knife with high-intensity magnification. If I held that knife in my hand and looked at it with my naked eyes I probably never would have seen the edge wear.

The seller said the blade had wear. He didn't describe it as "new" or "perfect condition" or "flawless", so I think it would be out of line to question his honesty and integrity. I'd say his description of the blade was accurate. If I ran my thumbnail down the edge of a blade and found a tiny bit of roughness I too would call that "wear". In my opinion, if a simple re-sharpening will restore the edge, then it's "wear", if the edge needs to be completely re-ground, that's "damage".

Buying anything "used" means you can't expect it to be in perfect, like-new condition. The trade-off for paying a less-than-new discounted price is that you have to accept some minor wear and tear.

I think the seller was very generous to offer a refund or pay for sharpening. Although I don't think he should feel obligated to do either.

I won't say the OP is being ridiculous, perhaps just excessively nit-picky.

 

[STAINLESS90]

Sharpen it and move on. The knife was listed as used with edge wear, I see edge wear from usual daily use. I would recommend only buying new knives at full retail from now on.

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[shinyedges]

Or he could pay me double the full retail price for any knife he wants to get and I'll make sure he gets a perfect knife. I'll go over the knife with a fine tooth comb and only choose the most perfect example... for my services I'll be satisfied with what ever the knife costs

Sharpen it and move on. The knife was listed as used with edge wear, I see edge wear from usual daily use. I would recommend only buying new knives at full retail from now on.

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[STAINLESS90]

Or he could pay me double the full retail price for any knife he wants to get and I'll make sure he gets a perfect knife. I'll go over the knife with a fine tooth comb and only choose the most perfect example... for my services I'll be satisfied with what ever the knife costs

You may be onto something here! Let me know if you need a business partner.

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[Spartan00]

I guess the problem here is that the term "used" encompasses such a wide range. To me, a knife that has cut paper once is considered used. If I was selling a knife with a chipped and rolled edge I'd at least say that the edge needs some work. Sellers shouldn't assume that everyone knows how to sharpen.

At any rate, this has less to do with my intentions for the knife or the purpose of the knife as a tool, and more to do with the integrity of sellers here in our community.

I'll admit, I should have inquired more about the condition of the edge considering my expectations, but based on my past experiences most sellers are very forthright about the condition of their knives.

All that being said, I did exchange a few PMs with the seller on Thursday. He agreed to either allow me to return the knife or refund me the cost of getting it sharpened. I PM'd him back, but I have yet to get a reply. Meanwhile he has started another three sale threads, which is a bit disconcerting.

How ? You spoke with the seller and he's offering for you to return the knife or pay to get it sharpened . Bringing up what the other member is doing on here is a cheap shot IMO, especially since in your words he's trying to help you.

I'd be reluctant to business with at least one person in this thread and it's not the original seller.

Also read the sellers original description . He says the knife has been carried and used with a little bit of bladeware.

 

[MaxFactor]

Well, it seems like the results are in. And the consensus is that I'm being ridiculous with a generous helping of OCD.

I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. I messaged the seller and told him to forget about a refund. Although, I have yet to get a response from him.

After some thought, I think it may be the fact that I've just had so many outstanding transactions with sellers here on the forum. I've become more accustomed to buying "used" knives that turn out to be utterly devoid of defects than a used knife that is actually used. My typical reaction to a purchase here on the Exchange is one of complete satisfaction. I think that speaks volumes about the great community we have here, when the majority of sellers over-scrutinize the knives they're selling.

I'd be reluctant to business with at least one person in this thread and it's not the original seller.

Well, to each their own. But I'm the type of seller that will describe and take pictures of the very smallest marks or scratches on a knife. My occupation is probably to blame for my overzealous scrutiny and extreme attention to detail, but it simply comes with the territory.


At any rate, I appreciate everyone taking the time to give their input and humor my peculiar idiosyncrasy. Have an enjoyable rest of the weekend.

 

[Spartan00]

Nothing personal on my end OP. We are grown , you asked I answered .

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[Peter Hartwig]

Well, it seems like the results are in. And the consensus is that I'm being ridiculous with a generous helping of OCD.

I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. I messaged the seller and told him to forget about a refund. Although, I have yet to get a response from him.

After some thought, I think it may be the fact that I've just had so many outstanding transactions with sellers here on the forum. I've become more accustomed to buying "used" knives that turn out to be utterly devoid of defects than a used knife that is actually used. My typical reaction to a purchase here on the Exchange is one of complete satisfaction. I think that speaks volumes about the great community we have here, when the majority of sellers over-scrutinize the knives they're selling.



Well, to each their own. But I'm the type of seller that will describe and take pictures of the very smallest marks or scratches on a knife. My occupation is probably to blame for my overzealous scrutiny and extreme attention to detail, but it simply comes with the territory.


At any rate, I appreciate everyone taking the time to give their input and humor my peculiar idiosyncrasy. Have an enjoyable rest of the weekend.

I presume that you were bothered by the edge, or you wouldn't have written this. That being the case when someone divulges edge wear, or any other wording of wear or damage that may not be to your liking, follow up with questions and ask for additional photos. These items fall into a ranges, some less then others. Ask for clarification and photo's then you will know exactly what it is they are speaking of and can decide if it is for you or not.
I think the seller divulged the edge , but you two just weren't on the same page as to the meaning. Your allowed to be as picky as you care to be prior to the I'll take it.

 

[PURPLEDC]

If I sell anything I make sure to add pictures like the one you showed with the damaged edge when I actually sell it. I don't believe in sugar coating any sales. If something is jacked up and I know it I'm taking detailed pictures and adding those details in my description. Now is the edge really that bad? No. But saying "has a little blade wear" Yet its used some and has "no issues" to me is a bit too vague for my liking and I would be annoyed but I would not lose it over it. But I come from the camp that I want absolutely zero surprises. I like some others have mentioned want to hear that I supplied a better than described item.

 

[morleda]

I'd sue the seller. Call Judge Judy. Be sure to let us know when the show will be aired. Maybe she'll only take the case if the seller is a blood relative though. Good luck.