Using "gift" option when paying via Paypal

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Let's see you pay as a "gift" per the seller's request to avoid the fees, and then you don't get your knife. Can you get your money back through Paypal, or are you automatically disqualified from that because you essentially lied to Paypal?


People on these forums seem to display high integrity when it comes to these things, but I still would like to know.
 
Can you still claim to have integrity if you lie about the payment to avoid the surcharge?

IMHO- it’s the cost of doing business.
 
Caffeinepirate said:
Let's see you pay as a "gift" per the seller's request to avoid the fees, and then you don't get your knife. Can you get your money back through Paypal, or are you automatically disqualified from that because you essentially lied to Paypal?


People on these forums seem to display high integrity when it comes to these things, but I still would like to know.
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What knife?? At that point PayPal don't know nothing about a knife, you sent $$ as a gift.

In short, NO.....no money back. The cost of lieing.
 
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let me put it this way - doesn't matter how you send money via PayPal (gift or purchase) is he/she wanna screw you out of money/knife - you're SOL
if he/she will take all necessary steps - you WILL NOT get a knife nor your money back

conclusion - read ITrader :)
 
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Using the gift method is not a good idea when you are buying an item, first you have no buyer protection at all, because you have said by sending as a gift that you are not making a purchase. The other problem is that I have had customers trying to be nice, send money for a knife as a gift and then , I miss the payment until someone says , Hey where is my knife ? The other problem is when you send it as a gift, paypal does not include a shipping address or a shipping button, because as far as they know, there is nothing to ship. In a nutshell, it is easier to have all things above board in any transaction, honesty is always the best policy.

Dave
 
braillediver said:
Can you still claim to have integrity if you lie about the payment to avoid the surcharge?
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I worded that poorly. I just meant that in general the people on this forum seem like honest people. But I don't particularly like the idea of sending the paypal payment as a gift the same way I don't like sending money orders -- if something goes wrong, you are SOL.

I thought you are in a bad spot if you gift money via paypal . . . everyone confirmed what I was thinking.
 
I myself don't like PP but if I have to use it I would rather add the 3.5% (which is also against PP policy) then lie and say its a gift. Lieing is never a good thing. No matter how small or big its still a LIE!!!
 
A member on another forum contacted PayPal directly about this. He posted the response by PayPal to the question about using the personal/gift tab for payment of goods on this other forum. This is their response copied & pasted here:

PayPal said:
Personal payments are actually not covered by PayPal's Buyer Protection policy. I suggest to go through PayPal to pay for the item and use Purchase of goods in order for you to be protected by PayPal's Buyer Protection Policy.
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So there you have it, directly from PayPal. (except for the underline & bold type...I did that :))
 
To think you have protection via Paypal for a purchase is a false sense of security. A Paypal claim must meet strict criteria for protection and the seller has to have the funds in their account. I learned the hard way that fraud (receiving item that was not what I ordered) is not covered.
 
jsciii said:
To think you have protection via Paypal for a purchase is a false sense of security. A Paypal claim must meet strict criteria for protection and the seller has to have the funds in their account. I learned the hard way that fraud (receiving item that was not what I ordered) is not covered.
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While this is true, there are strict policies and all things need to be just right, but if it is a gift, there is absolutely no chance of protection. I guess the best way to do things is to buy from a trusted dealer and be careful out there, plenty of people willing to take your money and give you little or nothing in return.
 
jsciii said:
To think you have protection via Paypal for a purchase is a false sense of security. A Paypal claim must meet strict criteria for protection and the seller has to have the funds in their account. I learned the hard way that fraud (receiving item that was not what I ordered) is not covered.
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Actually it is convered if the buyer does everything right.
 
and paypal is why I have my very own credit card machine. you are protected and I do not have to worry about what I am taking money for.
 
jsciii said:
I filed a claim with PP and they closed the case saying they do not cover fraud. What could I have done differently. I'd like to know in case it happens again.

JCIII
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Read the contract at the PayPal website -- all of it.
 
The most important thing when using PayPal is to use a CREDIT CARD .

This way if PayPal decided to screw you and close your claim , you can call your credit card issuer and dispute the transaction

With that being said , this will only work if you declare the transaction as a purchase .
 
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