Using large folder in public?

Synov said:
I have no idea what you're talking about. I work for a law firm. Seek out an attorney for actual legal advice (or just read several criminal attorney's websites) and you will probably get the same answer. Hell, ask a police officer what they do when they're approached as a civilian by police. They know not to talk. Most people don't know the police's intent towards them. Most people don't know how to carefully select their words under pressure in order to avoid possible incrimination. In general, don't talk.
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This is always the best advice at dealing with police. Be polite, respectful and STFU.
 
Synov said:
You don't have to answer questions or explain anything to the police. Just ask them if you're being detained. If they say no then politely walk away or ignore them. If they say yes, ask them if they have reasonable suspicion you have or are about to commit a crime. Only if they have such suspicion can they detain you and demand your ID. If they persist in detaining you with no reasonable suspicion, ask for their supervisor.
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I love these videos. Even though I know they usually end with a Taser I like the build up.
 
Danke42 said:
I love these videos. Even though I know they usually end with a Taser I like the build up.
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??? Please show me a video where someone gets tased for not answering questions. Then show how much their settlement was. Why are some people here so hostile to basic advice every criminal lawyer gives?
 
It always starts with “I know my rights!”, and spirals down from there.
Then they begin to refuse.
That’s the beginning of resisting.
Resisting, is illegal.
You are on the on ramp, for the highway to hell.
 
GmpaJim said:
It always starts with “I know my rights!”, and spirals down from there.
Then they begin to refuse.
That’s the beginning of resisting.
Resisting, is illegal.
You are on the on ramp, for the highway to hell.
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Refusing to answer questions is not illegal and is in fact your constitutional right. No one in this thread said anything about refusing lawful orders or resisting arrest.
 
Synov said:
criminal lawyer
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...because "criminal " and worse yet "lawyer " .:mad:

Unless you are a well connected , privileged d-bag like Hunter B (or the former Prince Harry, used to be before he talked 💩 to the Crown ) it's a terrible idea to disrespect the cops .

However , if you are being charged, then you need to shut up and get decent legal help , God help you !
 
DocJD said:
...because "criminal " and worse yet "lawyer " .:mad:

Unless you are a well connected , privileged d-bag like Hunter B (or the former Prince Harry, used to be before he talked 💩 to the Crown ) it's a terrible idea to disrespect the cops .

However , if you are being charged, then you need to shut up and get decent legal help , God help you !
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Not answering questions is not disrespectful; you can even say "I respectfully invoke my right to not answer your questions." If a cop misinterprets this is as disrespect then you are not dealing with a rational, well-trained officer, which is even more of a reason to remain silent. Police ask you questions in order to obtain information necessary to charge you, so remaining silent only after they do is a foolish mistake.
 
DocJD DocJD I think by criminal lawyer he meant those people who exist in the system as a check against innocent people going away for crimes they didn't commit. You know, due process of law, etc.... I don't think the "criminal lawyer" was created to actually ensure criminals don't get punished for their crimes, but to ensure proceedings would prove beyond reasonable doubt that they committed them before punishing.
 
Synov said:
??? Please show me a video where someone gets tased for not answering questions. Then show how much their settlement was. Why are some people here so hostile to basic advice every criminal lawyer gives?
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Well you said the quiet part out loud. Right there half way in "settlement"; your vested interest is in giving advice that results in a lawsuit which may result in a settlement but there's no guarantee of that. Either way the lawyers get paid though.

Just like the guy at Jiffy Lube saying change your oil every 400 miles because oil is cheaper than engines. He's not thinking about your engine or your savings. He's thinking about that new boat he wants.
 
Danke42 said:
Well you said the quiet part out loud. Right there half way in "settlement"; your vested interest is in giving advice that results in a lawsuit which may result in a settlement but there's no guarantee of that. Either way the lawyers get paid though.

Just like the guy at Jiffy Lube saying change your oil every 400 miles because oil is cheaper than engines. He's not thinking about your engine or your savings. He's thinking about that new boat he wants.
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How does remaining silent result in a lawsuit? The only thing that would result in a lawsuit is a cop inappropriately acting in retaliation, which could occur regardless of whether you answer their questions or not. The courts have ruled an innocent person has the right to remain silent specifically because their words could be inappropriately used against them. So by your logic, our judiciary is "encouraging lawsuits." LOL
 


So ...back on topic !

I often carry these two at the same time .

Of the two , the smaller non-serrated is probably wiser for public use .

Unless you just gotta be confrontational and enjoy practicing omertà against the lawful authorities . 😒

Even smaller , on my keychain, Micro Recon 1 would be better still . :)
 
As others have pointed out, being discreet and using common sense go a long way. If you are concerned about offending/scaring someone, it is easy to deploy the blade quietly/discreetly and hold it with your thumb along the flat of the blade exposing only the length you need. I do that when cutting into boxes to not penetrate deeper than needed all the time. Just because you carry a knife that you are proud of, doesn’t mean you need to make a show of how loud you can make it flick open🤣.
Don’t forget that city ordinances do not always go hand in hand with state laws. Being forthright and respectful with LEO’s goes a long way in any situation.
 
Ladies and gents, read the link below. This guy is troll who starts threads with made up stories/topics to stir people up. At that, he has succeeded.

Danke42 said:
Twice in one week!

Ballpark security guard had no issues with my knife at the ballpark

On my way from work directly to a semipro baseball game I began thinking of dinner. A ballpark dog, "beefy nachos" or one of those fancy micro-pizzas didn't sound all that good so I pulled into a supermarket with a good deli. I grabbed a loaf of their house French bread, two nice Beefsteak...
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stillshot2 said:
So I've been enjoying a Spyderco Police 4 lightweight recently as an EDC, it's been great for cutting sandwiches or hamburgers for my little kids when out and about. But it being a little on the large side (a little over 4 inch blade) got me wondering if I were using it in public and say someone from law enforcement saw me using it to cut something is there a high probability it could have them approach me for questioning? I live in Arizona so not many knife restrictions, and obviously I'm not going to be doing anything illegal but just curious what any of you on this forum that may be active law enforcement or even a retired officer would have to say on the matter? I don't care what the average person thinks of me carrying it unless they are going to freak out enough to call the cops and possibly get me searched or cause me headache even though it's legal for me to carry this knife. It is a crazy world we live in after all.. thoughts?
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craytab said:
Ladies and gents, read the link below. This guy is troll who starts threads with made up stories/topics to stir people up. At that, he has succeeded.
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I have no idea who that guy is but when I read that link to his story you guys posted here I just thought it was satire, especially after seeing the pic of his knife
 
Quiet said:
Candidly, I enjoy carrying large knives, but I also always carry a smaller knife as well to use when around others. Also, if you are going to use a larger knife, I'll say this: body language, a calm demeanor, and a relaxed face are everything when doing so. If you have to cut something, if someone sees you and you're entirely relaxed and casual as you cut the thing, then close and pocket the knife, that nonverbally tells onlookers that what they are seeing is "Person using a tool in a nonthreatening way". Virtually ten times out of ten, it works for me.
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I completely agree.

I have always felt that if one didn't t make a big deal out of using a pocket knife in public, and used their knife in a routine and business like manner, no one would pay attention. I carried a Military for several years to work after I had carried an Endura for 6-7 years before that. Also edc d these knives. They never attracted any attention that I was aware of. But I wasn't t really looking.

That said, I now carry a three in folder in the bottom of my pocket in addition to a 3.5-4 inch folder clipped IWB. I use the smaller folder for most routine tasks and it works fine. Am I succumbing to political correctness? I hope not. I still like the bigger blades better.

By the way, I m happy to talk to the police any time they want. We re on the same side.
 
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