Usps Insurance-useless!!!

Great thread. I'm just not sure what conclusions to draw, except maybe this tentative one:

1. if the knife is worth much money (you decide), use USPS Registered Mail and put up with paper tape and special packaging issue.

Would like to hear more experiences on Fedex and their reliability and especially insurance issues. Especially their multi-day cheaper service (Express Saver?).
 
USPS is absolutely the worst! No one owns them, no one is in charge and no one cares. It almost seems to me as though they take pleasure in saying NO! Their lathorgic arrogance would run most businesses into bankruptcy, but not the USPS.

To the specific issue at hand, they will run you around in circles knowing darned well you will never be paid. They have a list of reasons and excuses that is endless. UPS may not be so great, but (for what it's worth) they are certainly better than USPS.
 
I've had a number of packages that UPS said they left on my porch that I never saw (I worked afternoon shift at the time),and I've had a package that I sent and it arrived empty!They paid on all three,but gave me a hard time on the empty package.Once I told them to weigh it and see what it weighed empty verses what it weighed when it was shipped,they paid right up.Ken
 
UPS is not anti-gun. It's true that they no longer accept firearms in their brown lable service. I e-mailed them and asked about it.

When they announced this, I assumed that it was either political or a safety issue.

The response was that they still accept them in the blue-label and overnight services.

That makes no sense. If it's a political issue then what point are you making by refusing guns in one service but not the other? And if it's a safety issue, why are guns safer in one service than the other? So, I wrote back and asked for an explaination.

The response was that they've had to much trouble with employee theft of guns out of the brown label service. The blue label and overnight packages are handled less and have fewer theft problems.

Instead of addressing the issue, UPS has simply shifted the problem to its customers. Why? Because there's just not much UPS can do about employee theft. The union is so strong it's virtually impossible for them to fire someone.

It was about this same time that someone related having had the UPS clerk open their outgoing box and inspect it. I said, "No way!" So, I e-mailed UPS again. The response was, "While we are not at 100% yet, our goal is to inspect the contents of 100% of packages sent by retail shippers."

"Why?"

"Because we are concerned that the contents may pose a risk to UPS employees."

So, I asked them to, without going into details, give some examples of how package contents had endangered employees. I also asked them why they thought that UPS was getting all of the dangerous packages since none of their compeditors seemed to feel the need to inspect."

The response was, "The details of specific incidents are UPS confidential. And we can not comment on the policies of our compeditors."

I then attached the gun theft e-mail and asked them if they thought there might be a relationship between employees opening packages and inspecting the contents and employees stealing the contents.

The response was, "We have forwarded your comments on for further consideration."

Hello? Would you like to buy a vowel?
 
The easiest way to use USPS Registered Mail is to pack your item throughly in a good box. They can and will reject your item if they don't like the box. So use a good, preferably new, box. Tape it shut, but just enough to get it to the post office. Bring your return address and the destination address on self-sticking labels pre-printed and ready to go, but don't stick 'em on. Take it to the post office and tell the clerk that you want Registered Mail. The clerk will apply the special tape to cover all the seams just the way they like it. Stamp post marks all over it and everything. Then, you can apply your address labels. Put some clear tape over them to protect them, and apply the postage and other stickers and it's ready to go. They don't charge extra for this.

The Hope Diamond went to The Smithsonian via USPS Registered Mail, don't ya' know?
 
Originally posted by Nimrod
USPS is absolutely the worst! No one owns them, no one is in charge and no one cares. It almost seems to me as though they take pleasure in saying NO! Their lathorgic arrogance would run most businesses into bankruptcy, but not the USPS.
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Hey, that sounds like a good argument to make them go private, and then go public... to make them compete on same basis that UPS does! ;)

By the way, USPS is running huge deficits...still. They are bankrupt, but they are Federally funded by tax payers.
 
The Hope Diamond went to The Smithsonian via USPS Registered Mail, don't ya' know?
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I am active on a jewelry forum and most jewelers recommend USPS Registered for sending their rings, gold and diamonds. That's good enough for me.
 
I have had my rounds with the USPS. I once sent a package to a guy in California and insured it for $50. There were two knives in the package when they left here and I packaged them up very good (always do). When the package arrived, it was smashed and one of the knives was missing. I went to the P.O. and the lady told me to bring in a receipt and fill out a form and I might get my money back. I had always thought that you got the amount that you insure something for but it doesn't work that way. I didn't have a receipt and thought about making one but I didn't want to lie to them even though they lied to me. I still use them but they still suck!

Chuck, the women in our P.O. would never wrap a registered package for you. They are too lazy to get off their butts to do anything:D
michael :D
 
this is cary.. a few months back I paid quite a few bills over the 500+ you would pay retail for an emerson cqc6 after harassment to the PO, the package (priority mail) arrived a DAY (29) before the 30 period I could file a claim. Box was beat up but the knife was secure. Was the high insurance tag what tipped them off?

anyways what I have to ask is a hypothetical question. Say an emerson custom retails for 500.00 but I paid say 1k for it.. can't the shipper show usps my voided check as a "sale". I mean sure it is determined by market value but who is to say Tattoo (the seller) didn't do some voodo magic on it and I wanted to pay him 500.00 for his serivces :)

btw.. Easy there Gollnick :) everytime you talk about ups (yes we rememeber) you turn a delightful shade of pink :p
 
We are 0 for 6 on attempts to collect on a USPS insurance claim. We quit buying USPS insurance and, in fact, quit shipping anything worth over $30 by mail. I even turn down high ticket orders that have PO boxes for addresses. We're pretty close to rejecting all orders with PO boxes for addresses. It isn't worth it. i.e. I agree with the group. UPS is no more anti gun than any other shipper. I think the whole world is anti gun. Take care.
 
Wow.

Fred from Knife Outlet....sorry your are "oh for six". That is truly awful and enlightening at the same time.

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. We quit buying USPS insurance and, in fact, quit shipping anything worth over $30 by mail.
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How do you ship items worth over $30?
 
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