Various Question for Sal Glesser

Marion David Poff

Marion David Poff

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Sal,

Why is it that certain models are not made plain? For instance the Goddard series, I would absolutely love to have a full-size Micarta Goddard, but they don't come plain. And the Goddard Ltwt, same. Or the Catcherman. Does the G-10 Harpy come plain?

And what is the story with the metal liner in the G-10 Police, that sounds very promising!

What are the changes slated for the Renegade?

Why is the micarta Horn being scrapped?

When were the plain Mariners manufactured?

Any word on the titanium Jot Singh Khalsa?

Or maybye a titanium Wegner?

Thank You

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Marion David Poff fka Eye, one can msg me at mdpoff@hotmail.com

Patiently waiting for the Spyderco SpydeRench, Lum Chinese Chopper Folder, Rolling Lock Martial Folder and other Rolling Locks with Spydie hole, Flat-ground Police plain and the day every Spydie comes plain; Benchmade M2 Axis, M2 Axis AFCK, M2 Pinnacle; REKAT Escalator and Pat Crawford/Kasper Design.

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Marion - One of the problems for a small company is trying to maintain a high inventory. Considering there is 3 -4 months investment in a knife before it hits the shelves plus whatever time it sits on the shelf, this ties up an enormous amount of capital and complicates cash flow. Creating a Plain edge version, a serrated edge version and a combination plain/serated is very difficult to stay on top of. If we get enough request for a variation, we build it. Plain edge Goddards are in the works. At least a test quantity.
The Harpy and Mariner models sold so slowly in plain edge that it didn't pay to build and inventory those models for the above reasons.
The G10 Poice has a liner because we believe that the clip screws need to screw into metal. G10 does not have what it takes to hold the clip screws to meet our strength and torsional requirements.
The Renegade is on hold for now. We're still tooled, maybe sometime in the future. We need to make some mods to the model (2nd generation) before we can bring it out again.
The Micarta Horn isn't being scrapped. It's being "Exclusived" out to a distributor in the same way the mini Horns are exclusive to AG Russell. We simply cannot maintain an inventory of so many SKU's (Stock Keeping Unit).
Plain Mariners were made from 1982 until about 1990.
No immediate plans for titanium Khalsa. Still playing with Protots.
Titanium Wegner might be cost prohibitive. We'll put down for a proto to show, maybe at blade? Hope this helps.
sal
 
Thank You.

The plain edge Goddards, ltwt or micarta?

Can you say which distributor is getting the Horn micarta?

MDP
 
Marion - current schedule is for liteweight. We did make the Micarta Goddrd plain for a while.
sal
 
Sal,

One major problem with marketing is is getting the word to the "ELU" quickly. You may want to test new variations right here on BladeForums. No advertising and expert opinions from many of our members. Nothing much lost and a lot gained. Then you could get very good feedback good/bad before you dump capital into a new project. I know I am going to use this forum for such means in the very near future.

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Mike Turber
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You've got that right, Sal.

Mike, I agree, that idea has a lot of merit. By testing ideas and/or prototypes right here, we'd be able to randomly draw on our user base to give manufacturers "the real deal" when it comes to their designs.

Literally, it's like having a marketing focus group for zero cost or effort. You provide the prototypes, we provide the people, and everyone benefits! Not only do you get almost instantaneous feedback, but you have a flexible medium to work in.

Spark

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Hi Sal. Why don' t the Tim Wegners have their clip screws threaded into the steel liners?? The first one I got had screws that were loose and I backed them off to remove and clean, thinking a little locktite would help. But the screws just damaged the G10 scales when I backed them out! But I did locktite them and gave it to my associate as a gift. I am leery of trying to remove the screws from my present one. Can it be sent back to factory to have the steel liners tapped? Otherwise the Wegner is my favorite and most used Spyderco.(Shaaarrrp!)

L8r,
Nakano
 
Sal,

I was going to ask this question in a new thread but here seems as good a place as any. I read with great interest that you had a prototype Bob Lum/Chinese Folder at the Blade Show. At that time I had just seen the custom version and was very excited at the possibility of getting one that I could afford from Spydeco. Do you have any plans to proceed with the production of the Chinese Folder and, if so, how soon can I expect to get my grubby mits on one? BTW it is great to be able to ask you these questions directly, I hope this can become a permanent feature.

Take care,
Clay

[This message has been edited by Clay Kesting (edited 10 January 1999).]
 
L8r - The screws should be screwed into the liner. If they are not, please retun the piece to our customer service dept. Please call it to my attention. Thank you.

Clay - The Chinese folder designed by Bob Lum is planned for production by the end of '99. We have many collaboration models in the works at this time. (This creates its own problems). There are two sizes planned and both are currently still in production engineering. The original design had a linerlock. We've also though about using a lock back, but it changed the design. Do you have an opinion on which lock you would prefer on this design?
sal
 
Sal,

I am delighted to hear that the Chinese Folder will go into production, I can stert planning my Xmas'99 wish list. Will the sizes be similar to the originals? I'm probably not the best person to ask about the lock as I am a relative newbie and don't have many knives in my collection (they are just too expensive by the time they arrive in this country). Although the linerlock has come in for much criticism here, my daily carries are a Wegner Jr and a Viele (Spyderco rules) and I have had no problem with the locks under normal use. If I was pressed I guess I'd say go with the linerlock to keep it as close as possible to the original. What would Bob Lum think about changing the lock?

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Take care,
Clay
kesting@idx,com.au

Some people make things happen, some watch while things happen, and some wonder "What happened".


 
My only gripe seems petty. My Mariner model said Mariner, my Police model said Police and the Military (never had one but, it looks good) says Military. However, my favorite Civilian does't say anything. I know there isn't much room on the blade, it would be a minor but, nice improvement. I was actually thinking about getting mine engraved somewhere. Keep up the great work.
 
Clay,
Sizes will be the same as the originals. (Bob also made a "baby" size which we'll consider if the design is well received). I don't think that Bob would fret over the lock. I believe that he believes Spyderco would build the lock "Properly", regardless of type. He is however a perfectionist with regards to pattern. We have to make the lock fit the pattern whichever lock we decide to use.

dov,
Never though to put any markings on the blade. Because of the "on again / off again" history of markings on blades (other than collaborations) we avoided the problem. On the Police Model, general response was keep it. The Mariner / Rescue came first ('82). Two different steels (Rescue, no marking, was Gingami steel for toughness - Mariner was AUS-8 for better corrosion resistance off shore) "Mariner" distinguished the two apart. Requests came from law enforcement to create a "Rescue" model with a point. That is why the Police Model has no "belly" in the blade. It is more efficient for cutting seat belts or the like than a blade with a belly. Thought it was a pretty big knife, but since it was for law enforcement, We put Pride, Integrity & Guts on the blade. "PIG" was larger and stood out more. (about 2,000 pieces in the mid '80's).
sal
 
Sal, thanks for spending the time on this forum. Your time and attention is really appreciated. I' ll have to take a closer look at my Wegner.

L8r,
Nakano
 
Well, you have two sales guaranteed, me and my brother on the Goddard ltwt, if a Micarta appears, I will take one. I imagine a number of other forums members would do the same, it is one of your best models in my opinion.

Wayne Goddard himself offers the Jr plain. Or he did.

The Chines Folder is probably one of the coolest knives around. A lockback might be better from an all-around standpoint, a well made one is nigh unto pefect, the liner locks can be ugly and there is a huge backlash against them.

Thanks for being around,

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One may want to keep an Eye out for my review of the Bob Kasper designed, Kevin Gentile modified AFCK and interview of Bob Kasper.

Marion David Poff fka Eye, one can msg me at mdpoff@hotmail.com

Patiently waiting for the Spyderco SpydeRench, Lum Chinese Chopper Folder, Rolling Lock Martial Folder and other Rolling Locks with Spydie hole, Flat-ground Police plain and the day every Spydie comes plain; Benchmade M2 Axis, M2 Axis AFCK, M2 Pinnacle; REKAT Escalator and Pat Crawford/Kasper Design.

"The victorious Warrior wins first and then goes to war, while the defeated Warrior goes to war and then seeks to win" Sun-Tzu


















 
Sal,

After further thought and reading David's post, I think I must agree with my more experienced colleague. Since this is a worker , a lock-back is probably more appropriate. I also have concerns about the longevity of the liner-lock as the lock on my Wegner Jr has moved to the opposite scale after less than a year of daily use. There is no blade play yet but it can only be a matter of time. The Chinese Folder looks like a knife I wll want to use for a very long time so anything that will prolong its life is a plus. BTW you can put me down for one of each size
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Thanks for listening.

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Take care,
Clay
kesting@idx,com.au

Some people make things happen, some watch while things happen, and some wonder "What happened".


 
Regarding the Wayne Goddard Lightweight: I would have bought one some time ago if it were available in plain edge. Combo-edge is always a deal killer for me. I like the Goddard Lightweight though, and I must say I was tempted.

David Rock
 
Sleep??? What is this that Mr. Glesser speaks of??
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The lock for the Chinese Lum knife should be the REKAT lock. A strong lock for a strong knife. Finding out that I have to wait till the end of 1999 to get it makes me sad, but I'll wait. Now if I go to the Blade Show this year and Spyderco has more cool knives, well that will just screw up everything. Oh well.
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