Victorinox Replica 1897

The price is an issue for many, which is completely fine. However, once all 9,999 of these sell out, they're going to be exactly like the Soldier knife that came out a few years back. Those sell* starting at $1,200+. I am not paying $1,200 (well, at least not at the moment, though I'll probably end up with one eventually) or more for one of those, so I decided to get one of the 1897s while it's "only" $500. Works for me.
That’s what I think…and is how I am going to try get one of the 1891 replicas in trade. I bought one to keep and hope to get a second before they run out so I can sell or trade for a 1891/125th sometime in the future. That way I can have both for a little over $1,000 after tax and shipping.

I'm sure it'll be a well built collectible, just like all their others. I mean, it could be worse, heh, check out what the Man on the Moon Tinkers go for these days, and that's for a plastic scaled screen-printed basic model. "Well, I'D never pay that!"

These are a bit of an exception with that huge website snafu when these were released. Also that they allowed people to get 3. I use one, but not sure I’d do that again.

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I hadn't heard this model was coming out until I saw my retailer had it for sale this morning. Good gravy do I ever want one but it's $600 CAD. There's no way I can pull that off. It's pretty rad though!
 
I hadn't heard this model was coming out until I saw my retailer had it for sale this morning. Good gravy do I ever want one but it's $600 CAD. There's no way I can pull that off. It's pretty rad though!
Haha same here... didn't see any price for it before the release date, even put an alarm on my phone to be sure i wouldn't miss it... then i click on the link on Victorinox website... 600$ CAD... nop! 😅
 
Heard in one review that it has nickel silver liners. Sounds good to me as mine hasn’t come in yet…but the official videos say they’re aluminum. I was a little disappointed about that part since it does have nickel silver pins. I can’t tell from any of the posted pics here or elsewhere.

I find many of the comments and complaints elsewhere online a bit funny. I feel lucky that Victorinox kept the knife around this price point and would have expected it to be way higher if it had some of the things on my wish list like the 2-piece shield and cross inlay like I have on a 1920s knife. I also would have liked a less tumble-polished finish and sharper corners/edges…but I know that could’ve added a lot to the final price. I know many would have preferred carbon steel…but not me. Can’t say I like maintaining the few I have. I also think they made the main blade profile a bit too narrow eyeballing it. The more pictures I see, the more it looks like they copied a blade that was sharpened a bit. I hope my opinion on that changes when I have it in hand. Clip point looks fine.

Anyway…if it does have NS liners I might try to (eventually) get a third to use.
 
I’ve got my country’s entire allocation on the way. Not that I have much interest in the model - I just can’t resist an excellent scalping opportunity! 😈
 
I’ve got my country’s entire allocation on the way. Not that I have much interest in the model - I just can’t resist an excellent scalping opportunity! 😈
Do it! The SAK market is always crazier outside the States! Remember the guy who got like a dozen MOTMs? I think he did just fine.

If the pin configuration was like current modern configuration…they’d also be interesting to mod. Good thing that’s not the case!
 
Do it! The SAK market is always crazier outside the States! Remember the guy who got like a dozen MOTMs? I think he did just fine.
Was that you? 🤨

IMO an edition of 1969 at ~100 USD/piece is always going to be the better investment in a small community. An edition of more than 10x that at 500 USD/piece is going to take a lot longer to percolate into an even smaller market, I should think.
 
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Was that you? 🤨
Not me! That was another collector in Europe, maybe Austria IIRC. Considered it for a bit since I was lucky to have found them still available here the next morning. Bought one, posted about them being available. Surprised when I checked a couple of hours later they were still available so I got two more.
IMO an edition of 1969 at ~100 USD/piece is always going to be the better investment in a small community. An edition of more than 10x that at 500 USD/piece is going to take a lot longer to percolate into an even smaller market, I should think.
It’s more like 5x production (9,999/1969) and 5x cost. And it certainly was better to speculate on the MOTM based on the numbers. But these shouldn’t be too different from the 1891/125th since there were 7,536 of those made (1,884 over 4 regions) and a ‘higher’ price IMO, if adjusted for inflation and being launched during the financial crisis (here at least). I don’t expect these to sit around as long. And inflation is coming…
 
Not me! That was another collector in Europe, maybe Austria IIRC. Considered it for a bit since I was lucky to have found them still available here the next morning. Bought one, posted about them being available. Surprised when I checked a couple of hours later they were still available so I got two more.

It’s more like 5x production (9,999/1969) and 5x cost. And it certainly was better to speculate on the MOTM based on the numbers. But these shouldn’t be too different from the 1891/125th since there were 7,536 of those made (1,884 over 4 regions) and a ‘higher’ price IMO, if adjusted for inflation and being launched during the financial crisis (here at least). I don’t expect these to sit around as long. And inflation is coming…
Thanks for the numbers correction. No mathematist here, obvs! LOL.

My tongue was very much in my cheek in #26. I'm no speculator & have only been sufficiently interested in one LE to buy a sample (a Winter Magic PX). A thousand local dollars for one knife is far beyond my personal interest and financial prudence.

For all the debate over the price/value of this replica, I'm delighted that Vic has reproduced the original Offiziersmesser, & that people who really want it can enjoy it. It is a beautiful knife, beautifully presented.
 
I wonder how much these would sell for. Crazy, imo. Nearly going to get one to enjoy and sell for fifty bucks extra.
 
Thanks for the numbers correction. No mathematist here, obvs! LOL.
No problem. Just laying out some of my rationale and justification of my purchase.

My tongue was very much in my cheek in #26. I'm no speculator & have only been sufficiently interested in one LE to buy a sample (a Winter Magic PX). A thousand local dollars for one knife is far beyond my personal interest and financial prudence.
Understood about post #26 as I was (mostly) kidding too. I talked myself out of getting that Winter Magic PX…because I don’t use the ones I have. But I do wish I got one anyway. I would probably carry it some.

For all the debate over the price/value of this replica, I'm delighted that Vic has reproduced the original Offiziersmesser, & that people who really want it can enjoy it. It is a beautiful knife, beautifully presented.
I’m very happy for the serious collectors who actually collect Swiss knives into the 1800s/early 1900s. That’s not me. If my collection ever gets a decent original 4-pin with or without the shield, I would have been content with that. I’m happy enough with one from c. 1930.

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I am pleased that Victorinox can commit the time and resources to projects like this to commemorate and honor their history…while making some of us nuts happy…even if the buzz they wanted has some negative reactions from the crowd.
 
I talked myself out of getting that Winter Magic PX…because I don’t use the ones I have. But I do wish I got one anyway. I would probably carry it some.

I’m very happy for the serious collectors who actually collect Swiss knives into the 1800s/early 1900s. That’s not me. If my collection ever gets a decent original 4-pin with or without the shield, I would have been content with that. I’m happy enough with one from c. 1930.

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I am pleased that Victorinox can commit the time and resources to projects like this to commemorate and honor their history…while making some of us nuts happy…even if the buzz they wanted has some negative reactions from the crowd.
I was on the fence about the 2020 PX for ages. It's much better in the real than in any picture. The scales are exquisite & it's beautifully finished. I didn't buy it to use, just to have as an artifact.

While I wouldn't go out of my way to hunt down a nice old Vic like yours, I'd snap one up if I stumbled on it for a low price.

I am pleased that Victorinox can commit the time and resources to projects like this to commemorate and honor their history…while making some of us nuts happy…even if the buzz they wanted has some negative reactions from the crowd.
Exactly this. 🙂
 
Well, mine finally came in late yesterday and unfortunately mine does have a QC issue and I’ll have an opportunity to see how they handle the flaw. :( With all the others getting theirs before me and posting pictures online, I can see a big difference that will show up clearly in pics, I think. I won’t post pics publicly until after I hear from them. I’m hoping this isn’t a common problem and that it’s just my bad luck that this one slipped through QC instead of passed. I will say it’s a finish or cosmetic issue and does not interfere with function at all. So if things don’t go well with customer service, I guess this is the one I’d use.

That aside, it does compare nicely to my c. 1930 JNOXD tang stamped knife with the shield. That one came in at 80g and the replica at 82g. Aside from the awl and corkscrew, it seems more like mine dimensionally than other comparisons to older knives. I can confirm the one report that the liners are nickel silver not aluminum. Which is a huge plus to me. I think I’ll save the full list of pros and cons til later. However, aside from the finish on my particular knife, the biggest negative issue with the replica is the choice to use what looks like tool stainless for the small blade spacer, which I have not seen mentioned by anyone else. It’s the only odd choice from my perspective as that was never done to my knowledge…even the steel liner soldiers I have and seen have brass or nickel silver for this spacer. Main blades for most knives contact this spacer when snapped shut. While this isn’t the finish issue specific to my knife, the spacer isn’t quite the right size (too big) and the tumble polish left this one part far too rounded. I feel they should’ve stamped a nickel silver one.

Mine is in the 15xx serial range directly from Victorinox in CT, and another I saw was in the 1,6xx, unlike what Quiet got from DLT…for anyone who cares about the number they may get.
 
Just an FYI for anybody complaining about the price, original examples can command a few thousand dollars if you can even find one and
At $500 this extremely close reproduction may be the only chance some collectors get to own one.

I'm not one of those collectors so this isn't for me, but I am a bit understanding of the price.
 
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Well, mine finally came in late yesterday and unfortunately mine does have a QC issue and I’ll have an opportunity to see how they handle the flaw. :( With all the others getting theirs before me and posting pictures online, I can see a big difference that will show up clearly in pics, I think. I won’t post pics publicly until after I hear from them. I’m hoping this isn’t a common problem and that it’s just my bad luck that this one slipped through QC instead of passed. I will say it’s a finish or cosmetic issue and does not interfere with function at all. So if things don’t go well with customer service, I guess this is the one I’d use.

That aside, it does compare nicely to my c. 1930 JNOXD tang stamped knife with the shield. That one came in at 80g and the replica at 82g. Aside from the awl and corkscrew, it seems more like mine dimensionally than other comparisons to older knives. I can confirm the one report that the liners are nickel silver not aluminum. Which is a huge plus to me. I think I’ll save the full list of pros and cons til later. However, aside from the finish on my particular knife, the biggest negative issue with the replica is the choice to use what looks like tool stainless for the small blade spacer, which I have not seen mentioned by anyone else. It’s the only odd choice from my perspective as that was never done to my knowledge…even the steel liner soldiers I have and seen have brass or nickel silver for this spacer. Main blades for most knives contact this spacer when snapped shut. While this isn’t the finish issue specific to my knife, the spacer isn’t quite the right size (too big) and the tumble polish left this one part far too rounded. I feel they should’ve stamped a nickel silver one.

Mine is in the 15xx serial range directly from Victorinox in CT, and another I saw was in the 1,6xx, unlike what Quiet got from DLT…for anyone who cares about the number they may get.

I’m sorry to hear of your issue. I will say that I have a tiny spot of a scratch on the main blade of mine where it looks like it comes into contact with the inner liner. It’s so slight, I’d have to work to get a pic of it, but the blade does rest up against that inner liner. Of course, I’m used to this issue with both Case and GEC (to some extent) so it’s negligible to me, since I have been carrying this knife and plan to continue doing so.
 
I’m sorry to hear of your issue. I will say that I have a tiny spot of a scratch on the main blade of mine where it looks like it comes into contact with the inner liner. It’s so slight, I’d have to work to get a pic of it, but the blade does rest up against that inner liner. Of course, I’m used to this issue with both Case and GEC (to some extent) so it’s negligible to me, since I have been carrying this knife and plan to continue doing so.
Thanks, but that’s definitely not the issue with mine. The main blade liner contact on the ‘full height’ liners is period correct and perfectly normal for Officer’s knives before the 91mm pin size and geometry was changed in ‘51 with the new openers (+PAT).

Sent the form/email with pics, but not expecting a response over the weekend.
 
I got a pretty standard form letter like reply saying that I could return and buy another but that refund could take up to two billing cycles and stated that everything needed to go back in its original condition.

Perhaps I could have taken better pictures to describe my issue. I do think they also could have taken my concern a bit more seriously. I don’t really want to bother with the hassle of a return and the uncertainty that they will accept it and issue the refund in addition to the uncertainty that a second one would be better. I guess a user it will be. Fix it to the best of my ability.

The irony is that I’d be totally okay with fixing it myself if in some alternate universe where they could send me a pair of unfinished scales and 4 pins so I didn’t have to turn my own as I usually would for such repairs.

I still think there’s $500 value in these knives and still glad that they were offered at all. But I hope people understand why I’m not super pleased with the one I happened to get:

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I got a pretty standard form letter like reply saying that I could return and buy another but that refund could take up to two billing cycles and stated that everything needed to go back in its original condition.

Perhaps I could have taken better pictures to describe my issue. I do think they also could have taken my concern a bit more seriously. I don’t really want to bother with the hassle of a return and the uncertainty that they will accept it and issue the refund in addition to the uncertainty that a second one would be better. I guess a user it will be. Fix it to the best of my ability.

The irony is that I’d be totally okay with fixing it myself if in some alternate universe where they could send me a pair of unfinished scales and 4 pins so I didn’t have to turn my own as I usually would for such repairs.

I still think there’s $500 value in these knives and still glad that they were offered at all. But I hope people understand why I’m not super pleased with the one I happened to get:

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I know I'm supposed to figure it out from the pic, but I didn't. So what's wrong with it? Discoloration?
 
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