Vista or XP Pro in new computer

I believe in diving into the pool headfirst without checking to see if there's water in it - it makes life more interesting. I bought Vista as soon as I could. I have not run into a single problem that I could not deal with.
 
I got Vista Business Ultimate on my new Lenovo T61p. Have had zero problems in the first 3 months of use. I figure it's like XP in that I needed to customize how it works/looks, etc.

AJ
 
I have XP, Vista and Linux on my current PC. I've used Linux mostly because it is fast and easy until this latest upgrade which isn't happy with my motherboard's networking setup.

I haven't been in Vista in months. Yes it works. It's not too hard to use particularly since I set it to work like Windows Classic. But XP and Linux are generally simpler. The new ribbon crap for Office is a nightmare and the user Control stuff in Vista is insane, even after the service pack.
 
I just recently bought a new Dell Inspiron 1520 , With DVD RW and Vista. And it works great. I love the features it has, I just got so bored with XP, Ive had it on all my other computers and wanted something new. The sidebar tool is a great feature, comes in handy! I highly recommend it.
 
Go with XP... Vista has a number of "privacy" issues IMO. "Vista's legal fine print includes extensive provisions granting Microsoft the right to regularly check the legitimacy of the software and holds the prospect of deleting certain programs without the user's knowledge..... The agreement does not define any of these terms, leaving it to Microsoft to determine what constitutes unwanted software." (torrents, MP3s... hint, hint, nudge, nudge)http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/175801

It requires more CPU activity to run (vs.XP). It STILL has hardware compatibility an driver issues. Games run slower (and video quality is degraded).

IMO, Vista was released to the public so that the public would act as Microsoft's Quality Control entity... "lets let the public do the work of finding the bugs".... my opinion.

Go with XP Pro... no question (or look at Linux, but I will avoid Vista like the plague!)
 
Until/unless sun releases java for 64 bit windows (Vista) with browser support, it's a non starter for me.
 
timcsaw said:
Go with XP... Vista has a number of "privacy" issues IMO. "Vista's legal fine print includes extensive provisions granting Microsoft the right to regularly check the legitimacy of the software and holds the prospect of deleting certain programs without the user's knowledge..... The agreement does not define any of these terms, leaving it to Microsoft to determine what constitutes unwanted software." (torrents, MP3s... hint, hint, nudge, nudge)http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/175801
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Yeah, Microsoft is going to have their anti-spyware program delete all your MP3s. That's very plausible. :rolleyes:
 
Jennifer_B said:
Yeah, Microsoft is going to have their anti-spyware program delete all your MP3s. That's very plausible. :rolleyes:
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This isn't about spyware tools.

It's about MS working with the big media companies (movies, music) to enforce their view of copyright. But it hurts legitimate uses as well. If you create your own HD content, Vista will downgrade the display of that content if you don't have HDCP compliant video card and monitor. The license also gives MS the right to delete your own data files they think are suspect for their own reasons without notice to you.

Or, if my motherboard fries in my computer, and I can't find the exact same model of motherboard anymore to replace it, my Vista license (OEM) becomes invalid and locks me out of my computer.
 
I've been running Vista for 10 months now and haven't had any major issues,the first month or two there were a couple of programs that I use that weren't ready for Vista,but that was fixed by the November,I haven't found anything since.I can see that you don't want to upgrade an older computer to it,it needs space.I just installed the new service pack and it seems ok,I was a little leary of it,I hadn't heard good things about it.I use Firefox for a browser most of the time,I still have IE that I use occasionally,there are a few things that Firefox won't do.In all,I don't see anything wrong with Vista.
 
phatch said:
This isn't about spyware tools.
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Yeah, the part about deleting software is, although you wouldn't know about it since that part was edited out of the quote from the article Timcsaw linked to. It was talking about Windows Defender's default settings.

The idea that Microsoft is going to deliberately delete all your MP3s is as ludicrous as the idea that Microsoft is tired of making money. Which they would have to be to pull a stunt like that.

Or, if my motherboard fries in my computer, and I can't find the exact same model of motherboard anymore to replace it, my Vista license (OEM) becomes invalid and locks me out of my computer.
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You have to re-activate Windows within 3 days of replacing the motherboard if you don't use one from the same OEM. That's not exactly the same thing as locking you out of your computer.

Sure, it's a minor annoyance, but there are plenty legitimate gripes with Vista that can be made (it's like Windows XP that hired John Daly's personal trainer...) without trying to scare people with misleading or inaccurate information.
 
Jennifer_B said:
Yeah, Microsoft is going to have their anti-spyware program delete all your MP3s. That's very plausible. :rolleyes:
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I don't believe I said that did I?

I posted the link where the information details could be found so that YOU could read it or not (evidently you chose "not").
 
No, an OEM license is locked to a particular hardware configuration. While you can change video cards, and memory and such, a different mobo is not allowed at all. You can't re-activate because it no longer matches the license. MS considers it a new computer and you can't move OEM license to a new computer.
 
Jennifer_B said:
Yeah, the part about deleting software is, although you wouldn't know about it since that part was edited out of the quote from the article Timcsaw linked to. It was talking about Windows Defender's default settings.

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Sure, it's a minor annoyance, but there are plenty legitimate gripes with Vista that can be made (it's like Windows XP that hired John Daly's personal trainer...) without trying to scare people with misleading or inaccurate information.
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Do you suggest that I was intentionally being misleading or inaccurate?

I offered the attention-getting information and provide a link to the entire article... as I said, it's up to the individual to investigate further (or not)... I try not to post entire articles in the forum... (this isn't Drudge).
 
timcsaw said:
I don't believe I said that did I?
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(torrents, MP3s... hint, hint, nudge, nudge)
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That pretty much seems to be what you're saying, or at least implying.

I did read the article, and the details. That's where I read "Once operational, the agreement warns that Windows Defender will, by default, automatically remove software rated "high" or "severe,"". That's not very sinister.
 
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No, an OEM license is locked to a particular hardware configuration. While you can change video cards, and memory and such, a different mobo is not allowed at all. You can't re-activate because it no longer matches the license. MS considers it a new computer and you can't move OEM license to a new computer.
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http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/activationfaq.mspx

"If you acquired Windows Vista pre-installed on a computer from a major manufacturer (sometimes referred to as an Original Equipment Manufacturer or OEM), Windows Vista will require re-activation if you replace the motherboard with a motherboard not provided by the OEM."
 
I try to make a habit of not installing MS products until they have been in circulation long enough to have most of the glitches, errors, redundancies and vulnerabilities patched out of them. This usually takes years. Vista needs at least another service pack/roll up before I'll even look into installing it. But then, I guess I'm a 29 year old dinosaur, didn't even install XP until a few months ago.

Microsoft must be the only multi-billion dollar tech company that can routinely, for decades, release flawed software on a regular basis. Its a business model that works for them, somehow, and from what I've heard this has not changed with Vista.
 
I am a software professional. Have been a software engineer for 25 years now. Started with DOS 1.1. My last home and work system had XP on it. Microsoft finally got it right with XP. Actually they had it right with DOS 6.0 but thats another story. I had to buy a new home computer and thought long and hard about reverting back to XP but decided to stick with Vista to see. Have been using it for over a month with no problems. Have no complaints. Saw no reason to not still use XP but Vista runs fine.

KR
 
I am a software professional. Trust me, I'm not bragging. I have been a software engineer for 25 years now. Started with DOS 1.1. My last home and work system had XP on it. Microsoft finally got it right with XP. Actually they had it right with DOS 6.0 but thats another story. I had to buy a new home computer and thought long and hard about reverting back to XP but decided to stick with Vista to see. Have been using it for over a month with no problems. Have no complaints. Saw no reason to not still use XP but Vista runs fine.

KR
 
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