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No offense against Busse combat but how are they getting so many votes? The company isn't that big and I doubt their customer base is near as large as either Kershaw or Spyderco. Is someone clearing their cookies and voting over and over or something? It just seems suspicious to me that the smaller company is the one ahead of those two bigger more known ones.

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Well, there was some people wanting to vote more than once and we squashed it. One vote per person is the way to go. The reason why Busse leads is for the same reason that when Busse has one of it's contests, the entire bladeforum shuts downs. The Busse following is fanatical and there are many collectors that do not participate. I have seen on the forum as many as 180 regulars and another 200 anonymous guests. However, I agree that the companys making more economical knives in much higher quantities should be leading. But you gotta think about how many actuall knife afficionados there is who purchase knives and get on the net. Not many. Most people who buy a sub 80 dollar knife are doing so out of necesity and not because they are collectors or enthusiasts. I am surpised Kershaw was so high. I would have expected Spyderco or BM to lead and still do. This is just the beginning, by the time all is said and done Spy and Bencmade will probably be out front.

I myself collect Spyderco, Busse and Microtech. However, my Busses outnumber all others.
 
I went ahead and voted for Spyderco. Overall, they are my favorite but Al Mar, BM, and WH make some very good models as well. I have 2 BMs, 1 Al Mar, 1 WH and about 20 Spydercos.

I tend to get a lot of knives and trade a lot of them off to try new ones. I have been very impressed with the Al Mar Shrike, BM 921 Switchback and a few others.
 
Busse definitely has a large following, I haven't handled one of those blades yet, so I can't say I understand why yet.
 
Yeah, well his following is not impressing me and I know now they are not as large as it may look like. I was right in my hunch earlier and now thanks to this link I got from the other forum I help moderate in I know it. The Busse crowd is cheating and not hiding it and in my opinion not doing Mr. Busse any favors doing that. Some of these butt holes have voted ten times or more. His products don't need cheating and foul play to put them on top by messing with results the way they are and taking the honesty out of a good idea. Thats the same as stealing from the true vote winner in my opinion and wipes out any credibility in any poll you put up with that kind of crap.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=410573

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Yep. That is for sure Scott. I guess I'm old fashioned and obsolete around here anymore. Common courtesy is non existant on the for sale forums that basically run by street rules and now I'm referred to as a four year old throwing a temper tantrum for trying to point out something blatantly wrong. The same wrong that took away our point system here in fact.

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STR said:
Yep. That is for sure Scott. I guess I'm old fashioned and obsolete around here anymore. Common courtesy is non existant on the for sale forums that basically run by street rules and now I'm referred to as a four year old throwing a temper tantrum for trying to point out something blatantly wrong. The same wrong that took away our point system here in fact.

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I've been pretty lucky so far, but I have seen what you're talking about.
 
Like, even among knife collectors, I only know two or three people that have a Busse...

voted Spyderco. Pshhh....no way spyderco and Benchmade are getting pwn3d by busse in the popularity scales.
 
I have no idea how Busse is at the top right now. They may be nice but they are too expensive for a regular guy like me. :)

What's funny is that Victorinox has more than Benchmade. :)
 
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I have no idea how Busse is at the top right now. They may be nice but they are too expensive for a regular guy like me. :)

What's funny is that Victorinox has more than Benchmade. :)
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I'm a major Spyderco fan myself, but considering that there are probably more SAKs sold in an average week than there are Busses, Benchmades, Spydercos, CRKs, and Striders combined sold in a year, it's really not that shocking that Victorinox has a decent showing in the poll.
 
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Yeah, well his following is not impressing me and I know now they are not as large as it may look like. I was right in my hunch earlier and now thanks to this link I got from the other forum I help moderate in I know it. The Busse crowd is cheating and not hiding it and in my opinion not doing Mr. Busse any favors doing that. Some of these butt holes have voted ten times or more. His products don't need cheating and foul play to put them on top by messing with results the way they are and taking the honesty out of a good idea. Thats the same as stealing from the true vote winner in my opinion and wipes out any credibility in any poll you put up with that kind of crap.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=410573

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I think your just mad that your favorites are not in the lead. Really, the only thing that can be done wrong is multiple voting, and I agree that is wrong. However, you think Busse should not be ahead, well let's think about this for a minute. They make the toughest high end fixed blades available, but lets not stop there. SWAMP RAT which is also a Busse family company makes the toughest low to mid level knives available. They nearly have the whole market of hard use knives covered in fixed blades. When they do a contest, they shut down BF, you have seen those days when you cannot get onto the forums. Have you ever wondered why? It was because of the Busse contests and special edition sales. No other forum shuts BF down.

SRKW amd Busse have a huge following of real knife collectors most of whom do not post but are BF members. I have seen on the Busse website forums well over 300 to 400 guests. Add that up. How many votes is there on that poll? Not that many. If all the other mfg's fans were as hardcore, youd see it as well.

Oh, and by the way, this is a free country with free internet and there is absolutely nothing wrong with spreading the word to vote, after all, doesn't it make voting that much more accurate? You posted it here, but you don't have the hardcore collector fans that Busse does.

If I had to pick one production folder, it would almost always be Spyderco and I have many of them. However, if I had to pick just one knife of any type it would be my Busse.

Spread the word to vote!! I like to see an accurate and large spread.

oh and as for cheating, I guess you did not read my post over there and here. We stopped that in short order, no multiple votes, so the few that did do it stopped and no one else has. Well as far as we know:) But the same can be said for any other mfg fans, right?

STR, I think you are wound too tight, maybe you should come over to the Busse forum and relax more often, we have lots of fun over there:thumbup:
 
Cobalt justify it anyway that makes you feel better for what your chums over there admitted to. I don't apologize for having a stong sense of right and wrong and standing up for it. Its there and I won't hide what was instilled in me by my parents. I draw the line in a different place than you I guess. If you want to call that wound too tight fine. Call it what you will. BTW, I'm not mad. I'm not unhappy that my favorite is not in the lead. I don't know that the results are even worth reading now that some have openly admitted to fixing the vote.

If you knew me you would know that normally I am a very laid back relaxed guy in person. I have no issues with you so far so don't start any by standing up for those that have done wrong here. You know right and wrong as much as I do. You've admitted it and I've said my piece to them. When and if I come back there it will be on another thread.

Spyderco, Kershaw, Victorinox. These are all vastly more well known than Busse outside the forums. I mentioned Busse to my neighbors yesterday and neither of them ever heard of it. But they know the above three. When it comes to polls like that you can't convince me that Busse would stand a chance against a knife company being sold where America shops. One of the companies sold by Wal-Mart is the likely winner in that category or one that most people have a memory with from their youth to adulthood such as Victorinox, Case, Buck, or Gerber. What goes on here at BFs is not an indicator of what goes on out there in the real world away from those that are familar with forums and the brands.

Jerry is a great guy. I take nothing away from him by my actions. Can the guys there that support him say the same? To me they've done him a disservice showing their true colors. A victimless crime is still a crime. In this case it isn't victimless though. Its the same child like immature behavior that had Spark react to take our point system away from us. I bet if each of those guys that admitted to fixing the vote got a negative ding to their ranking from the members that it bothered they'd think twice about it next time. Think about it. For that matter if society as a whole were to crack down on things you call wound too tight it might straighten up some of these folks with warped senses of right and wrong. Obviously I'm in the minority these days at least around here.


STR
 
Wow. I just turned on the news. They had some kid they arrested for a drive by shooting and when the judge asked him why he did it do you know what he said? " Because it was fun, I wanted to see people run, everybody's doing it. It wern't to hurt nobody". Thats the problem I'm talking about and while yes this is night and day in the severity of it compared to this knife company voting the underlying problem is the same thing behind both. They don't get that its wrong!

And yet I'm called "wound too tight" for reacting the way I do. It goes back to basic psychology 101 doesn't it? If I steal your wallet I know its wrong but if I take it I'll have all your money so I make it right. Just the same as if I vote ten times or twenty or thirty my company will win but so what if it is wrong.

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