Want a frame lock user...

A member here, Gnoleb, does make some titanium hardware that fits the 0550 (see this thread). And if you want it to be full titanium, you can get a custom front scale made, like this one.
Holy cow! That's what Im looking for! a 0550 with a full titanium scale would be prefect and may knock out my nearly sure choice which was a CRK Insingo...
Thank you Bro!
 
I'm going to say it yet again. Get a Hinderer. If you can't find a flipperless model cut that dude off. I won't pay crazy prices for a $385 production knife and since the standard Hinderer's are hard to find it may be a no go with price gouging. But I like my Hinderer's as well as all my other frame lock knives (CRK, Marfione Anax, ZT, CRKT, Benchmade, Strider. )They just really pull off Teflon washers really really well and are smooth as butter and also can make it look however you want.

But after hinder I'd say what fits your hands and what type of washer system you prefer. I like CRK over most of my others but am really starting to love my Anax that can be opened in more ways than any other knife I own in a frame lock. Strider for me is too big and takes up pocket space and is a bit non public friendly at times.

Im sorry Im not following you. The Hinderer is high up there, but I need a titanium scale which he carries. How would you compare the Hinderer with 3.5" with a CRK Insingo?
 
Im sorry Im not following you. The Hinderer is high up there, but I need a titanium scale which he carries. How would you compare the Hinderer with 3.5" with a CRK Insingo?

I think Hinderer knives are one of the best production knives made plain and simple. Their fit, their balance, blade options, scale options (even titanium but I prefer carbon texture, carbon frag, or carbon reg because Ti sounds good, looks good, but doesn't feel as good as a lighter scale but YOMV) and all the changeable hardware. I can also use the pocket I have it clipped to with ease after learning how to put my xl hand in it.

It's hard to describe why it's really a better knife even after handling many many others. They can be had for $385 on the right day from the right place but most likely will be a flipper. The non flipper will cost whatever market value decides so..... Only Hinderer I've spent more on is a custom ground spanto 3.5" but that different market so moot.

The CRK all Ti knives are great but require sharpening and the insingo is by far my favorite blade by Reeve which I added a carbon scale to lol. His large insingo is a whole once lighter than a XM 3.5 without Ti scale so the weight of a full Ti XM18 will be even heavier than an ounce more than the CRK.

With all that said which one is the best is up to the individual. My favorite knives to carry are the XM 18 both 3" and 3.5" but if I were wearing dress pants my Anax or CRK would be pocketed. CRK is a totally different knife from pretty much all other Ti frame locks I have in that it's sleeker, smaller, lighter, thinner, tighter tolerances which only a true knife guy can see when taking apart/reassembly, the blade is thin but can be used rather hard (not by me but have seen some vids) but would require edge maintenance afterwards like any of my knives would get though. The XMs are closer to like a (I'm a knife that likes to be used (like striders in a way but not quite) )where CRK are more of an office desk mans user if that makes any sense but at the same time could be used for tough tasks if needed without worry.

The only thing that some of my ZT knives have over CRK or XMs is lock bar insert which I'm not able to judge advantage or the lack of one being a disadvantage.

So to break all that rambling down...a full Ti knife that is similar in design to XM (ZT, Strider, and few others) will be heavier, bigger in the pocket (but XM fits better than the others to me), and will have less grip in most cases than a textured scale which some Ti scales provide. Now the CRK is to me like a Rolex Yacht Master and the XM is like a submariner. Both could be worn with a suit but I'd wear the yacht master with a tux unlike the submariner; although, the submariner with a tux could be pulled off and has been done many times.
 
I'm looking for a new knife and I am thinking of giving frame locks another chance. This knife will absolutely be a user. I've always really liked the looks of the large Insingo Sabenza and I loved the smoothness of my Umnumzaan, but I think I got that too early in my knife experience. I love titanium so I need titanium handles. I'm curious about the Strider. Also I am completely uninterested in flippers. I think that kicks Hinderer's out. I had a 0560, but I don't want a flipper. I'm also looking for a knife that has a sharpening / refreshing service. I'm not too informed about blade steels. Please share your experiences and opinions

You already had THE KNIFE once, the Umnumzaan.

But as you are looking for something NOW I would recommend either the Umnumzaan or the Sebenza 25, leaning towards the Sebenza 25 or whatever one you like the best.
 
You already had THE KNIFE once, the Umnumzaan.

But as you are looking for something NOW I would recommend either the Umnumzaan or the Sebenza 25, leaning towards the Sebenza 25 or whatever one you like the best.
I agree it was a poor decision to sell the Umnumzaan. Im really having a hard time deciding. I love the looks of the Skinner Hinderer and by association the ZT blades, but my 0560 did take up ALOT of pocket room. The Strider I'm sure is equally big in the pocket. I like the fit of the Zaan so I know I'd love the Insingo (by far my favorite shape), but I am concerned that it is.... less durable
 
I agree it was a poor decision to sell the Umnumzaan. Im really having a hard time deciding. I love the looks of the Skinner Hinderer and by association the ZT blades, but my 0560 did take up ALOT of pocket room. The Strider I'm sure is equally big in the pocket. I like the fit of the Zaan so I know I'd love the Insingo (by far my favorite shape), but I am concerned that it is.... less durable

Less durable than what doing what?

You do what something that cuts stuff right?

Some of the those knives mentioned in this thread are bricks with pry bar geometry that cut like crap, I know because I have them all here at one time or another.

There is nothing weak about an Umnumzaan or a Sebenza 25.

The Striders are good, the Concealed Carry Models are nice and thin and carry well.

Other than that if people like bricks with scales so rough that you could use them to shape wood like a rasp I guess that's their thing.

We are talking about 3.5" to 4" folders here.

Not sure what I would use those bricks for other than a paper weight on a windy day, and that's why I don't have any here anymore, got rid of them all.
 
Last edited:
Have you looked at mid techs from Les George, Chaves or Calavera cutlery? They all make awesome non flipper products that might fit your desires.
 
Less durable than what doing what?

You do what something that cuts stuff right?

Some of the those knives mentioned in this thread are bricks with pry bar geometry that cut like crap, I know because I have them all here at one time or another.

There is nothing weak about an Umnumzaan or a Sebenza 25.

The Striders are good, the Concealed Carry Models are nice and thin and carry well.

Other than that if people like bricks with scales so rough that you could use them to shape wood like a rasp I guess that's their thing.

We are talking about 3.5" to 4" folders here.

Not sure what I would use those bricks for other than a paper weight on a windy day, and that's why I don't have any here anymore, got rid of them all.

Good point. So your suggestion is the Sebenza? I'm definately not an abuser, but they'll get some work camping and such, but any of these should be more than up to the task.
I have not looked into any of the mid techs. Are they within my roughly $500 price range?
 
Good point. So your suggestion is the Sebenza? I'm definately not an abuser, but they'll get some work camping and such, but any of these should be more than up to the task.
I have not looked into any of the mid techs. Are they within my roughly $500 price range?

Some are, the Strider CC models are over $500, they are $550 for the SmF's.

The other ones that aren't too thick are over that price point and into the Custom ranges.

The Sebenza's are great all around knives, I doubt you would have any issues with it.
 
I've got a couple bucks that aren't needed immediately so purchasing one from each camp (like a Sebenza and perhaps another) to narrow it down is probably an option as long as I got them in the Exchange. The Insingo is really lodged into my mind so I am considering picking one up and then perhaps the Hinderer... do you think that's a decent decision by the things I'm looking for?
as I give it more thought I do want something that isn't a "pocket brick". The ZT 0560 and Manix 2 XL fit this criteria for me. I know the Sebenza carries well judging by the Umnumzaan so what other blade would you guys recommend? Has to at leat have the option of full titanium scales. I may be making more of this than I should, but I've already spent 1k on knives this year and I haven't scratched the right itch...
 
I've got a couple bucks that aren't needed immediately so purchasing one from each camp (like a Sebenza and perhaps another) to narrow it down is probably an option as long as I got them in the Exchange. The Insingo is really lodged into my mind so I am considering picking one up and then perhaps the Hinderer... do you think that's a decent decision by the things I'm looking for?
as I give it more thought I do want something that isn't a "pocket brick". The ZT 0560 and Manix 2 XL fit this criteria for me. I know the Sebenza carries well judging by the Umnumzaan so what other blade would you guys recommend? Has to at leat have the option of full titanium scales. I may be making more of this than I should, but I've already spent 1k on knives this year and I haven't scratched the right itch...

I would say a Sebenza and a Les George Talos.

Would skip the Hinderer. ;)
 
I haven't handled a Strider, so this is an interesting thing for me. Is the difference in grind between an SnG and an 0550 enough to make the SnG less of a "pry bar" than an 0550? .16" stock for the SnG, .156" for the 0550, but the high flat grind makes the SnG a notably better slicer?

Sincere question. I've only used the 0550, which has been great for cardboard, plastic, and a bit of light wood processing. I don't do food prep with knives (I cut apples with my teeth), so I understand that others' experiences may differ.
 
If you are interested in Strider get a SnG. I waited too long to get mine but love it.:thumbup:
 
I haven't handled a Strider, so this is an interesting thing for me. Is the difference in grind between an SnG and an 0550 enough to make the SnG less of a "pry bar" than an 0550? .16" stock for the SnG, .156" for the 0550, but the high flat grind makes the SnG a notably better slicer?

Sincere question. I've only used the 0550, which has been great for cardboard, plastic, and a bit of light wood processing. I don't do food prep with knives (I cut apples with my teeth), so I understand that others' experiences may differ.

Yeah, the the FFG of the Striders, then they also have the Hollow Ground ones too.

They aren't all that thick behind the edge.

The ZT's are .030" plus for those types.

Now the thinner ones are better like the 0770 for example.

The 550 is a pocket brick, I know because I have a Prototype here and another one before that I tested.
 
The 0620 still has a titanium lock side, but with a steel lockbar insert as to save wear on the lockbar itself.

Why not consider the ZT 0566. It's amazing and priced extremely well.

I recently got an 0566, and I love it. Perfect size, and I love the assisted opening feature.
 
Ok... thank you guys. I'm going to get an Insingo for sure. Is there a 21 and a 25 Insingo? If so what is the difference?
I am still searching for a second choice. Once I've had both for a few weeks I'll decidea which I have to sell which I will definately have to sell one...
the looks I'm really drawn toward are the SNG Strider and the slicer grind Hinderer, but the cost for a full titanium scale for the Hinderer definately put it out of my price range...
 
zt 0620cf! Super smooth and has a great steel. Only downside I can say is I did manage to chip the tip off a little... but other than that I think its perfect. The tanto shape cuts like a drop point for the most part.
 
Yeah, the the FFG of the Striders, then they also have the Hollow Ground ones too.

They aren't all that thick behind the edge.

The ZT's are .030" plus for those types.

Now the thinner ones are better like the 0770 for example.

The 550 is a pocket brick, I know because I have a Prototype here and another one before that I tested.

I typically carry .125" stock-- TiSpine, 0566, or Manix 2. I've checked out the 0770cf a few times, and the blade really is set up to be a great slicer.

As far as the "pocket brick" thing goes, I suppose that's subjective. I'm very comfortable with it in pocket, but I get that I'm just one guy.
 
Back
Top