Warm, socks, gloves, boots, etc.

annr

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I'm in the market for a combo of the warmest combo of gloves, socks, and boots. etc. to get me through a New England winter. I had a problem with cold exposure last winter and was told that I need to "keep my core body temp. warmer" but was not given any concrete advice on how to do so and what would be the most appropriate options; I also see that it is possible to spend alot with no effort at all. I have some idea about this but I thougt I would turn to people who own and use this gear in a serious way. I need something for practical for everyday use. Thx.
 
One word annr, LAYERS! Start off with a good baselayer. My favorite is Under Armour Cold Weather Gear. From there, go with good wool or fleece midlayers. Finally, good waterproof/windproof outerwear can make all the difference. My recommendation would be outerwear made from Gore-Tex XCR. Also, don't forget a good hat. Another thing to keep in mind is that while it's good to have good socks and gloves, if you keep your core nice and warm, you will find you won't have much of a problem at all with cold hands or feet.
 
For socks, get synthetic liner socks and over that a pair of wool hiking socks. For gloves and boots, don't skimp on cost. Buy the best you can afford - better to buy quality once, then buy twice when you find out the cheapo gear just wasn't up to the job. I've never regretted buying quality.

In terms of staying warm some tips are:

Wear a synthetic base layer next to your skin. This will wick moisture away from your body which will keep you dry and therefore warm.

Stay hydrated. Especially in windy conditions. Your body's ability to regulate internal temperature degrades the more dehydrated you become.

Don't smoke. It decreases blood circulation.

Wear a Gore-tex or other breathable-laminate outer layer - it will break the wind while still allowing body moisture to escape.

Fleece is warmer than wool, pound for pound.

Layering clothes is a good idea since you can take layers off when you begin to overheat and sweat.

Scarves are great. Balaclavas are even better!

Exercise! A regimen of regular exercise will increase cardio-vascular fitness, raise your overall metabolism, increase blood flow to the extremities - all of which will keep you warmer.

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Hopefully some others can suggest some brands of gear to check out.
 
From someone living in the land of ice and snow, the best thing you can do is dress in layers. A good wicking ( synthetic fibers, NOT cotton)layer is what you want next to your skin to pull the moisture away from your body. Next you will want some insulation what will also help pull the moisture away from the wicking layer like fleece, something you can feel warm in if you start to over heat but not be totally exposed to the elements. Next I would go for a warm jacket, military parkas work well for me because they are warm and have some moisture resistance. Gortex is nice because it allows moisture to evaporate as well as being reasonably water proof. For gloves you should get a 2 part system, liner and outer gloves. Liner gloves should be fleece, thinsalate or wool. You want to be able to remove the liner to allow it to dry should your hands get wet. Another advantage is should your hands get wet you can quickly replace your liners and keep your hands dry. For outter gloves a good waterproofed nylon with sturdy leather palms seems to work best. When it comes to boots, Sorel or Arctic Cat. When it is cold out I wear a pair or "coolmax liner socks" the pull the moisture away from my feet. Then I put on a pair of wool socks then my Arctic Cats and Im good all day at -40*C, just remember to change your socks if they start feeling cold or damp. For a hat, I use a wool balaclava rolled up like a touque. This way you can roll it down to cover your face if it gets windy or extremely cold.
 
Looks like I came to the right place and that I'll be raising my core temp. just clicking away on a shopping spree. Any favourite places to shop? (I like to do most shopping online).

And there is good news, akennedy73, I don't have to worry about smoking.:) and I agree that the cheapo doesn't pay. Famous saying: "We're too poor to afford the cheap."
 
I am a fan of military mickey mouse boots, the black ones. They are a bit slippery on icy sidewalks but are great "off road". If they get wet from over topping you can just dump out the water since the insulation is sealed. White bunny boots are even warmer but are too big to drive in and most times are just too warm.

If you use ski gloves instead of mittens buy a glove/boot dryer or have 2 pair. One piece gloves take forever to dry once wet.

Keep your head warm and dry, avoid cotton and reduce perspiration build-up when out and about.
 
The Specials pages of the Campmor catalog regularly has Polartec varments for low a price as I have seen for Polartec. Also available at campmor.com.

The head can lose up to 50% of total body heat, so a good "topper" that protects the back of the neck is a high priority.
 
Try the EMS store near you, They are a really good place to start, and their store brand Long johns are really good for the money, the bergdalene material they make it out of is long lasting, non pilling and less likely to take on odors than many other brands.

Raising your core temp means getting your bodies furnace running better, more excercise, getting more easily burned food in you, and keeping your self more active even in the home will keep you warmer all day.


Heat loss happens most at the head and neck, the wrists and ankles are two other places with major blood flow near the skin surface to allow heat to escape. Limit those heat loss areas and your body temp will rise. The old campers adage of "if your feet are cold, put on a hat," really is true. A good hat will raise your temp tolerance a lot. Turtle necks and other high necked articles of clothing also help, a thin balaclava under a another warm hat really is a great way to do it.

in the cold, try hard to keep dry. if you have to walk a distance to catch a bus or to the parking lot, keep your jacket open and your hat high on your head, when you stop walking, zip up and pull down the hat. This allows the natural perspiration to evaporate while walking and then bundling up when you stop retains that extra heat your body made.

Your body makes enough heat to keep itself warm in amazingly cold weather, it was not unusual for me to skate in just shorts and a t shirt during conditioning skates in cold arenas as I was just burning calories. Most of us too have gone out jogging on cold days when the first hundred yards were freezing cold then shortly after we are sweating heavily.

For boots, the warmest are the pac types with a shell and a liner to keep you warm, the Sorel, Lacrosse and Baffin are really good names, remember that getting -100 degree boots for a ride on the T are actually going to end up colder than the -10 boots as they will get your feet sweaty enough to soak the liner and your feet will end up cold. -100 boots will make your feet sweat in above zero temps.

In boston, the need for extreme gear clothing is usually unnecessary. you will have a few below zero F days, but not that many, plan on good quality jackets, hats and gloves combined with a good pair of boots and you will do fine. If you are working outdoors, then a good choice is the Carhart brand, their insulated bibs, overalls, and work coats will stand up to heavy use.
 
Take a look at Cabelas for outdoor clothing. Wide selection, good quality and exceptional customer service. Keep an eye on their "Bargain Cave" for sale items.

Stay dry! Don't sweat up your under layers or you'll freeze. If you start to overheat while hiking, chopping wood, or whatever, stop and adjust. Unzip your jacket, open the pit zips, or take off a layer. Also, like others have said, stay away from cotton!

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Thxs for the great imput one and all. I probably should have mentioned that my native habitat is New Mexico, so tho I recognize some these concepts I haven't had much experience purchasing or putting together a "smart" ensemble of winter gear. Actually anything under about 50 degrees still seems a bit cold to me. I had never considered the overdressing problem; NM it is hardly ever wet. (not even damp basements) I burn a fair amount of calories in my day-to-day occupation, deduced because I can and do eat about anything I wish (not junk tho) w/o putting on weight -- when I take a break I put on a few pounds, but from what I'm hearing I probably could pump up the activity level , or intensity.

I haven't heard any mention of down, unless I missed the reference or the brand. Is down passe? old hat?:confused:

I had also seen somewhere that socks with silver content confered all kinds of benefits. Any feedback on these? Here is one brand I saw:
http://www.x-socks.com/index.php?langselect=true&XSID=156e42ebd0359c877cf47ce2b0c8b055

Happy Thanksgiving:) annr
 
Hmmm, not sure about those socks. Never tried any or seen feedback on them. I usually prefer a good medium or heavy weight wool socks with a lightweight Coolmax (or similar material) liner sock. As for the down, it works great. It's just not my preference. I prefer a good fleece jacket with a Gore-Tex shell.
 
I did do some preliminary shopping this summer and ran into a problem. I wear about a men's size 8 but need a very wide shoes. EMS just didn't have much in the way of E or EE. I picked up 3 pair and two fit OK, but may be snug with liner.
I'm wondering:

Where to shop for wide or extra wide shoes? :confused: wider brands? :confused: The brands I bought were Merrel (slip-on)and North Face (slip-on) and Tecnica(laced).

The Tecnica is more for wet as far as I can tell, but are the best fit.
The Merrel and NFace (the worst fit) are contain Thinsulate and can be water-proofed, but I don't know if this was the best option for winter. -never saw Thinsulate mentioned either, so I'm wondering:confused: how you rate that. (I can still return them as they are unused.)
 
I wear about a men's size 8 but need a very wide shoes......
The Merrel and NFace (the worst fit) are contain Thinsulate and can be water-proofed,

Try to find some "Merrel Eagles" they are now discontinued but they are very wide as well they were very comfortable. Sometimes you can find them on ebay for cheap ( never my size though:grumpy:) Raichle Kootenay 5 Backpacking Boots also have a very wide fit as well as being stiff enough to protect your ankles under sever conditions
 
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I haven't heard any mention of down, unless I missed the reference or the brand. Is down passe? old hat?:confused:

I had also seen somewhere that socks with silver content confered all kinds of benefits. Any feedback on these? Here is one brand I saw:
http://www.x-socks.com/index.php?langselect=true&XSID=156e42ebd0359c877cf47ce2b0c8b055

Happy Thanksgiving:) annr

Down readily absorbs moisture, atmospheric or liquid, and loses insulative value as it does so. Combine that with the fact that you perspire all the time (Yoyur body is trying tokeep 100% relative humidity next to your skin.), and you have an insulative material with significant limitations. Furthermore, it is very difficult to dry out in the field if conditinos are damp. Will you be a fanatic about not getting overheated? Will you be able to air it out in low humidity conditions (severe cold or desert)? Wool and polyester are far less limited.

X-Static thread, containing silver, is used in socks made by leading manufacturers, such as Fox River and Wigwam, and used by the U.S. military -- because the silver is anti-microbial. The result is a sock that fights fungus and bacterial infections. (It also reduces foot odor -- of significance to hunters.). Unfortunately, some companies make claims for the material not made by the manufacturer - such as that it both increases and decreases loss of heat. Silver is very heat conductive. How it reduces heat transfer escapes me.

Good wool sock are completely adequate for most of us.
 
X-Static thread, containing silver, is used in socks made by leading manufacturers, such as Fox River and Wigwam, and used by the U.S. military -- because the silver is anti-microbial. The result is a sock that fights fungus and bacterial infections. (It also reduces foot odor -- of significance to hunters.). Unfortunately, some companies make claims for the material not made by the manufacturer - such as that it both increases and decreases loss of heat. Silver is very heat conductive. How it reduces heat transfer escapes me.

Good wool sock are completely adequate for most of us.

You guys were right, I was wearing cotton:thumbdn: under my army surplus wool socks and probably a cotton T when I ran into trouble.

Thomas,

I found this on the web and thought it seemed pretty crediblehttp://www.best4body.co.uk/index.php?d=best4feet&PHPSESSID=75438042a82ca09fa7e064797db50145

:thumbup: Moisture Management
Silver accelerates the evaporation of moisture so that Foot perspiration is reduced, thus creating a dryer foot climate which in return cures and prevents new infections of Athlete Foot. Blisters and swollen ankles and legs can be prevented.
:thumbup: Temperature Regulating
Silver regulates the core body temperature to 37°C and therefore minimizes radiative heat loss by actively reflecting the body's energy back to the skin. Therefore BEST4FEET with Natural Silver Fibre will keep you warm in winter and cool in the summer."

They also have gloves and undergarments. Don't seem hideously expensive if they work as claimed.
 
Proabably not the quality you want. Walmart carries wide boots. I have triple EEE twelve feet and they could accomodate me. Mine were insulated construction boots. I don't know what people feel about steel toes and cold weather. It has not been an issue with me so far.

The best wool socks I got for a reasonable price were "cold weather gear" purple wool socks. They are not the most durable. They did give me the most warmth at a reasonable price.
 
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