Watch out for Kristtag_0

[Campbellclanman]

Hi everyone

I have had a bad experience on e-bay.

BEWARE of Ebay seller Kristtag_0, I purchased a Harness Jack of him and I always look carefully at the description of the knife and photos along with that- as we do.

The Knife was described as a "Minty", upon receiving the knife, the liner on the Punch side -on the top which has been ground down to accommodate the punch- so yeah one hell of a warning sign the Punch isn't original to the Knife - none of this could be seen at all or was described.
The problem is I buy my Knives and they sit for a while at my good friends place until such time there is enough of a group that makes it financially viable to send to me here, so 4 months have passed since buying the Knife.

I have tried twice contacting Kristtag_0 through Ebay and the seller has not bothered to answer me, I feel this is just outright bad service and the kind of behavior of a Rip-Off artist.

I am not sure if this person hangs around here in the Blade forums?

Worth considering if wanting to deal with this person.

 

[hhmoore]

The problem is I buy my Knives and they sit for a while at my good friends place until such time there is enough of a group that makes it financially viable to send to me here, so 4 months have passed since buying the Knife.

I have tried twice contacting Kristtag_0 through Ebay and the seller has not bothered to answer me, I feel this is just outright bad service and the kind of behavior of a Rip-Off artist.

While I feel for you, consider it from the seller's perspective... You sell/ship a knife, hear nothing for 4 months, then the buyer starts complaining.

 

[Campbellclanman]

hhmoore I do agree that does bring a different light to the game, however the knife that has been modified to the extent where it is a different knife that was described as being Mint, and with this I would have been more accepting if the Seller had come back and made the point you have - but nothing, if I sold the Knife and believed the 4 months was the deal breaker in any form of discussions of why the buyer was unhappy / refund etc - I definitely would come back and state this to the buyer, but to ignore the buyer totally is certainly not something I would do, I think it is very poor form and worth the mentioning in such a forum.

 

[bax229]

Duncan, sorry to hear you feel scammed.

Since the punch wasn't original, was it visible in the photos?

4 months after the sale, it would be a fart in the wind. That's the risk you run buying off the second market.

I hate the word "minty"

 

[Campbellclanman]

Hi Ryan

Yes the punch was visible in the few photo's, but finding out it wasn't original is something one may not know without a good close look on a wholesalers knife that outworked to certain companies, in a lot of cases such as Camillus for instance they have their Spiral Punch- their non Spiral Punch, at times in earlier Knives they used a Mayer punch and they also used the Robeson styled Punch - so it can be extremely interesting and have a lot of variables.

I love the Harness Jack, study them quite a bit, and endevour to go a lot further with them in the future, I purchased the Harness Jack because Enderes ( the Stamping on the Tang) were a Wholesaler and not a manufacture so I buy certain HJ's to look at the Punch style- determine who made the Punch, then gather whether the Punch manufacturer made the Knife or out sourced the Punch to another manufacturer.

Enderes is a little less seen and slightly elusive in the manner where the Brand name existed for only around10 years on the earlier part of the 20th century so there's not an awful lot about them out there- although not rare, I don't know an awful lot about them.


So there was no telling the Punch was not original- it looked good, when the Knife is closed it is hard to pick up just where the Liner removal is, let alone in Photographs, the Punch looked to be a Schrade style Punch.
Usually if there is a warning sign such as grinding marks on Tang, uneven grind patterns on Tang, Springs not matching the width of Blades / Punches etc the seller wont make these signs visible to the buyer- unless you have a stellar seller of course.

I'm striking this up to be one of those times that a buy didn't work out- and we get these- Scammed? well a more pleasant thinking person may suggest perhaps the seller didn't know any better

My beef with Kristtag_0 is just the style of handling this, Hey... the seller could have written back- and said "Hey Jack- take a walk- 4 months gone by..." but the total ignoring of a buyers concern is what leaves a bit of a sour taste, so instead on going in full bore and wanting the Sellers Head on a Plate- I thought I would put this forward for consideration is all.

Of course I am at everyone's mercy here because yes I agree totally the 4 month period changes the whole dynamic, but the quality of the seller is what I am questioning here, I personally would not be able to ignore that from a buyer - I may not agree and if I didn't I would put my point of view forward, but it would be discussed.

Its a great thing that we share these opinions, to buy a knife with success is to buy from a trusted seller or be at the table then and there.

I appreciate everyone's opinion - I understand I have little to go on for a return, and if anything the Knife will be a great HJ to bang in the pocket and perhaps pass on to a younger fella who may like it one day- as well as tell him about the Knife

 

[r8shell]

Hi Ryan

Yes the punch was visible in the few photo's, but finding out it wasn't original is something one may not know without a good close look on a wholesalers knife that outworked to certain companies, in a lot of cases such as Camillus for instance they have their Spiral Punch- their non Spiral Punch, at times in earlier Knives they used a Mayer punch and they also used the Robeson styled Punch - so it can be extremely interesting and have a lot of variables.

I love the Harness Jack, study them quite a bit, and endevour to go a lot further with them in the future, I purchased the Harness Jack because Enderes ( the Stamping on the Tang) were a Wholesaler and not a manufacture so I buy certain HJ's to look at the Punch style- determine who made the Punch, then gather whether the Punch manufacturer made the Knife or out sourced the Punch to another manufacturer.

Enderes is a little less seen and slightly elusive in the manner where the Brand name existed for only around10 years on the earlier part of the 20th century so there's not an awful lot about them out there- although not rare, I don't know an awful lot about them.


So there was no telling the Punch was not original- it looked good, when the Knife is closed it is hard to pick up just where the Liner removal is, let alone in Photographs, the Punch looked to be a Schrade style Punch.
Usually if there is a warning sign such as grinding marks on Tang, uneven grind patterns on Tang, Springs not matching the width of Blades / Punches etc the seller wont make these signs visible to the buyer- unless you have a stellar seller of course.

I'm striking this up to be one of those times that a buy didn't work out- and we get these- Scammed? well a more pleasant thinking person may suggest perhaps the seller didn't know any better

My beef with Kristtag_0 is just the style of handling this, Hey... the seller could have written back- and said "Hey Jack- take a walk- 4 months gone by..." but the total ignoring of a buyers concern is what leaves a bit of a sour taste, so instead on going in full bore and wanting the Sellers Head on a Plate- I thought I would put this forward for consideration is all.

Of course I am at everyone's mercy here because yes I agree totally the 4 month period changes the whole dynamic, but the quality of the seller is what I am questioning here, I personally would not be able to ignore that from a buyer - I may not agree and if I didn't I would put my point of view forward, but it would be discussed.

Its a great thing that we share these opinions, to buy a knife with success is to buy from a trusted seller or be at the table then and there.

I appreciate everyone's opinion - I understand I have little to go on for a return, and if anything the Knife will be a great HJ to bang in the pocket and perhaps pass on to a younger fella who may like it one day- as well as tell him about the Knife

Hi, Duncan. I'm sorry about the bad luck with your knife.

I am by no means an expert, but I like to look at ebay listings and try to spot misrepresented/reworked knives. I have a list of sellers names that I jot down if I see suspect listings, so I know not to bid on their items in the future. Kristtag is one of the names on my list.

Also, while I'm not a member of aapk forum, there's a subforum I have bookmarked to search sellers names before bidding:

All About Pocket Knives - Search

www.allaboutpocketknives.com

 

[Campbellclanman]

Hi R8shell
Hey thank you for that, its not the end of the World by any means, perhaps we are extremely spoilt with the good folk we have in Blade Forum's Traditionals

That's a very interesting search result you have come up with in AAPK, I don't look through the sellers Knives all the time, I often place in a pattern in the search engine and then the search leads me to the certain patterned Knife, I will have a good look through the rest of the sellers knives next time I have a result of a search.

Interesting to see our friend Roland commenting there as well, its not looking good for Kristtag_0 is it? obviously changed seller names in the past because of such behaviour- seems his lack of getting back to me is the behaviour of a rip-off artist after all.

Thank you very much for that R8shell!

 

[craytab]

I have tried twice contacting Kristtag_0 through Ebay and the seller has not bothered to answer me, I feel this is just outright bad service and the kind of behavior of a Rip-Off artist.

Are you still within the time frame to file a claim? If not, what recourse did you suggest when contacting him?

 

[EC_Snooker]

Hi, Duncan. I'm sorry about the bad luck with your knife.

I am by no means an expert, but I like to look at ebay listings and try to spot misrepresented/reworked knives. I have a list of sellers names that I jot down if I see suspect listings, so I know not to bid on their items in the future. Kristtag is one of the names on my list.

Also, while I'm not a member of aapk forum, there's a subforum I have bookmarked to search sellers names before bidding:

All About Pocket Knives - Search

www.allaboutpocketknives.com

Agree with this post 100%. Time well invested.

 

[Campbellclanman]

Are you still within the time frame to file a claim? If not, what recourse did you suggest when contacting him?

I think I am outside the time frame - I pointed out the fault to the seller, asked that he come back to me to discuss this.
It’s ok- like I said I will just use the knife and probably give the knife away if someone admires it - it’s smart enough looking.
Thanks for the interest everyone

 

[Peter Hartwig]

I think I am outside the time frame - I pointed out the fault to the seller, asked that he come back to me to discuss this.
It’s ok- like I said I will just use the knife and probably give the knife away if someone admires it - it’s smart enough looking.
Thanks for the interest everyone

From what I see you have 180 days to file a claim with PP after which you have 20 to escalate it.

 

[brownshoe]

You should have your good friend check the knife out upon receipt.

 

[mrknife]

I think I am outside the time frame - I pointed out the fault to the seller, asked that he come back to me to discuss this.
It’s ok- like I said I will just use the knife and probably give the knife away if someone admires it - it’s smart enough looking.
Thanks for the interest everyone

could always delete it!

 

[Campbellclanman]

You should have your good friend check the knife out upon receipt.

My friend often has a peek, but I am not going to put any pressure on him to look at a knife I have decided to buy - He goes through enough simply collecting them up and storing - then packaging and sending them to me.
If I ask him to do that on top of everything else- there is a bit of pressure there - what if he missed something and I received it - he would feel that - so no I gave already made that decision to hit that button so it’s all on me.

Hey a bad one slips through now and then - I do actually have trusted sellers, not being local puts a hugely different twist on it for me and that’s a risk so far has turned out pretty good

 

[Campbellclanman]

could always delete it!

Then shine it up my friend?

 

[Campbellclanman]

From what I see you have 180 days to file a claim with PP after which you have 20 to escalate it.

Thank you for that

 

[craytab]

From what I see you have 180 days to file a claim with PP after which you have 20 to escalate it.

You should have your good friend check the knife out upon receipt.

My friend often has a peek, but I am not going to put any pressure on him to look at a knife I have decided to buy - He goes through enough simply collecting them up and storing - then packaging and sending them to me.
If I ask him to do that on top of everything else- there is a bit of pressure there - what if he missed something and I received it - he would feel that - so no I gave already made that decision to hit that button so it’s all on me.

Hey a bad one slips through now and then - I do actually have trusted sellers, not being local puts a hugely different twist on it for me and that’s a risk so far has turned out pretty good

Yup, well within the time frame, which was my point. Claiming to not know the time frame

And no doubt, the proxy is using their payment account and ebay profile. Disputes, claims, etc.. put his or her rep at risk as well. So besides the undue hassle of dealing with a return and claim, you are messing with a proxy account.

This is one of the reasons we generally don't like proxy sales around here, especially undisclosed ones. They are complicated and get messy real quick. The actual buyer often does not have a pot to piss in unless they are willing to file a claim and do a return, but then the seller can be left with the feeling that their item has been messed with because the online profile they sold to is not the actual buyer. If there is a problem, there is always bad feelings, if not reputation damage and loss of item or money on either or both sides. Not worth it for me as a seller to ever deal with a proxy, unless I know the real buyer personally.

 

[Campbellclanman]

I buy the Knife under my ebay name and my ebay account, and I have an American address which is where my friend lives, I have things that I buy in the States shipped to my friend because most sellers do not want the hassle of overseas shipping.
I don't do anything at all untoward, no one buys the Knives for me in their account or under their name.

Did anyone mention anything about a proxy? when I contact sellers for anything I always use MY ebay name, When I bid and win its MY ebay name and MY ebay name's bid - and account, I then I pay with MY paypal and let them know that they are sending the Knife to my friends house.
I don't do anything undisclosed - as you have suggested, with you" generally not liking that around here" I have been here in Traditionals long enough and my etiquette is well above board.

I have a valid point about a seller selling a Knife as Mint- when it has been modified, and when I contacted the seller- no reply- thats shitty - time frame I understand brings in complications - I understand that probably better than anyone, but there is still a point of doing good business or shitty business.

I have the Knives sent to my Friends House, my friend receives them and places them into a box ( sometimes has a peek at them ) usually unopened ready to send me the Knives so its not as expensive for the shipping - hence the delay in me getting the Knife / knives- I too often let the buyers know this and that it may be a long time until I actually receive them.

 

[craytab]

I buy the Knife under my ebay name and my ebay account, and I have an American address which is where my friend lives, I have things that I buy in the States shipped to my friend because most sellers do not want the hassle of overseas shipping.
I don't do anything at all untoward, no one buys the Knives for me in their account or under their name.

Did anyone mention anything about a proxy? when I contact sellers for anything I always use MY ebay name, When I bid and win its MY ebay name and MY ebay name's bid - and account, I then I pay with MY paypal and let them know that they are sending the Knife to my friends house.
I don't do anything undisclosed - as you have suggested, with you" generally not liking that around here" I have been here in Traditionals long enough and my etiquette is well above board.

I have a valid point about a seller selling a Knife as Mint- when it has been modified, and when I contacted the seller- no reply- thats shitty - time frame I understand brings in complications - I understand that probably better than anyone, but there is still a point of doing good business or shitty business.

I have the Knives sent to my Friends House, my friend receives them and places them into a box ( sometimes has a peek at them ) usually unopened ready to send me the Knives so its not as expensive for the shipping - hence the delay in me getting the Knife / knives- I too often let the buyers know this and that it may be a long time until I actually receive them.

Maybe I am confused but to me that looks like buying and then after the fact having the item shipped to a proxy. Not exactly sure how that works with using your own paypal and ebay info since the verified shipping address would have to match the billing address. Are those somehow the same? Not saying you did anything wrong, just trying to understand.

I'll still maintain that unless the use of a proxy is fully disclosed before the purchase, especially here on the forums, you are asking for trouble. See this situation as an example. We've seen situations like this be unfairly resolved by ebay and/or paypal many times. In the past, I've sold to people using a proxy under the agreement that once the item is delivered to the proxy, the transaction is complete. I'n not cool with being on the hook for my item to be repacked and shipped over seas. Sellers should be aware if that is what is happening, and buyers should be aware (like the OP) that they have less recourse if they use a proxy. A less than honest seller can claim that the proxy manipulated the item. No doubt that if the seller in this situation is less than honest, like the OP claims, he knows this and is not going to respond to any complaints, because he thinks he has this in the bag.

Sucks for our over seas friends, I know. That is why people should be aware.

 

[Campbellclanman]

Lets get this straight.
A proxy buyer is a third person who buys for someone else under the buyers name- the actual real buyer is hidden.
example: Two 13 year old's waiting outside the Liquor store for their 20 year friend to come out and give them a bottle of booze.

Please stop trying to make your point stick- you are mistaken, you state above that proxies form bad situations- "see this situation as an example" Really?
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This "bad situation" has nothing to do with, or can be compared to proxy buy gone wrong, this situation is about the seller not bothering to reply to me because the knife that I bought under my name, using my papal - was modified and not true to its description.
My items are sent to my friends house, The Knives are not purchased for him, he does not inspect the Knives nor would he complain to the seller or to myself - that would change the dynamic and you would be on track with your thoughts.


At times my packages get sent around the World- one of them took nearly 5 months to get to me, I am because of my situation geographically at the sour end of waiting times.
Of the hundreds of purchases I have made over the years I have never made a claim in Ebay or Paypal, I have always believed that- as in this case that I am the one who is going to be most venerable because of the distance. My beef here is that the seller cant be bothered to reply to me, to me that's a seller who deserves to be recognized for their bad way of dealing with things.

100% full disclosure is always to the buyer - its addressed to ....me- using my full name, - the same name that is on my PayPal that is used to pay for the item, its merely shipped to a different add.

Nothing is hidden here

There no proxy buyer that exists here

I have nothing to do with a proxy or anything similar, there may have been messy situations with other people doing this, but this has nothing to do with me, nor does it in any way have a similarity to how I purchase Knives, If you cannot understand this- that's not my problem as it's very clearly been openly explained.
Your subject of Proxy buying is way off the topic, so is not up for discussion anymore as we are flogging a dead Horse.