Wave patent violation?

[HC Leo]

"shaking head"


:barf: Time for some WHIP-A$$!!! Thats shameless.






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USUAL SUSPECTS

 

[JonLL]

This is a shame, but I have seen it before many times. I have seen Strider rip offs, Kershaw rip offs, and now Emerson rip offs. I think the fakes need to be taken off the market. This knife looks like it could also pose incrediable danger to a user. I think my hands ,fingers.life is/are worth more than $19.95! These people need to be put out of business!!!

Copying the WAVE is a major breach of the law!

I sent e-mail to them

J

 

[Brandon -B-]

Shame on 888knivesareus. certiainly someone there has seen a commander before and knows that the Wave is Emerson's yet they still sell this piece of garbabe. That is what makes me madder than these monkeys ripping it off in the first place. I guess they have a right to sell it if they want but in a place like bladeforums I know that Integrity goes a long way. There are many other places to buy knives on the internet and I sure as heck ain't buying anything from these guys

 

[jim_l_clifton]

Guys,
The really sad thing is ,"people will buy them like crazy,then laugh & tell us how much they saved! Don't believe me?? Go to "ANY" gun show & see what sells the most,most sell the junk stuff like crazy!!I laugh right back when they stop by my table & tell them quality shows & you ain't got it!!
jim

 

[Arkham Drifter]

I just posted a link to this post along with my .02 over at The Good, The Bad & The Ugly.

I believe that 888-leeches-r-us deserves the bad press and any loss of business that results from their unethical business dealings.

 

[John Hollister]

Ernest Emerson is one of the most ripped off custom makers out there. Just about ever company out there offers their own version of the CQC7 (the BM "CQC7" at least was under contract).

Over the years here we've seen production companies making CQC7 clones, Commander clones (without the wave), ect. We've seen custom makers making Vipers, CQC7s, waved models, direct knockoff fixed blades, heck even ripping off the CQC6! (there is one custom maker that is famous for ripping off Ernie, it about all he does)

One production company, with very dubious quality, even ripped off the EKI logo on a line of Tanto folders they produced under contract for a major Firearms Manufacturer! Talk about your trademark infringements.

This isn't a "one time experiment" like ADV claimed. This is out and out illegal. A blatant Patent infringement.

Derek, call Customs and have their sh!t seized!!

Man this pisses me off!

 

[Dexter Ewing]

Originally posted by jim_l_clifton
Guys,
The really sad thing is ,"people will buy them like crazy,then laugh & tell us how much they saved! Don't believe me?? Go to "ANY" gun show & see what sells the most,most sell the junk stuff like crazy!!I laugh right back when they stop by my table & tell them quality shows & you ain't got it!!
jim

I frequent gun shows around my area and have seen about every popular production folder knocked off in one way or another by these "namelss brands" in China. Going after them is an option, albeit a costly one at that. I'm not sure if Emerson will want divert their financial resources, personnel, and effort into figuratively hanging these guys by their balls when they could be bringing out new EKI designs for us to drool over

I do recall one time hearing about ASP and how they went after a company in China who knocked off one of their batons. ASP took them to court and when all was said and done, they came out victorius.

Obviously, there are the un-edge-ucated folks out there who are buying garbage like this knock-off. Funny thing about it, these are the folks who sneer at the 60, 70, 80+ dollar Spydercos, CRKTs', BM's, MT's, and yes, Emersons. They so-call look for a "quality knife" trying to spend as little as they can. Until the demand for these junk knives are gone, China-made knock offs are a way of life in the knife industry.

Imitation is the highest form of flattery?

 

[See2]

You know, there IS something to be said for originality. Jeez - you'd think that people would want to come up with something cool on their own, rather than stepping on someone else's toes... but that'd involve things like "thinking", and "imagination", and "artistic ability". Obviously these idiots have none of that. Sic 'em Ernie!!

 

[scott475]

I don't particularly want Emerson to go after the foreign maker, becasue that would be a huge financial burden. Since when does China, et al, care about Patent law? However, Emerson can, and should, drop the hammer on anybody domestically that carries these knockoffs.

 

[Dexter Ewing]

Originally posted by scott475
However, Emerson can, and should, drop the hammer on anybody domestically that carries these knockoffs.

That's a sensible way of handling the situation. Sure, it might piss off some of the gun show type dealers - but hey, wanna carry our products? Then cease selling the knock offs....

 

[satin]

:barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf:

Whatta buncha freaking crap! and its FUGLY as sin too!!

What these A-holes need is some sense beat into them.

heres $0.25 GO BUY A CLUE!

 

[poboy]

Although I think that the makers of this crap are lower than dirt, I also believe that it wouldn't be worth the time and $$ to pursue the makers in court. I think that anyone who buys a POS like this would be too cheap to buy a REAL Emerson knife anyway. Anyway, crack down on the dealers, but don't waste time and money needlessly. Just my $.02.

 

[ROSANGHAL]

Originally posted by poboy
Although I think that the makers of this crap are lower than dirt, I also believe that it wouldn't be worth the time and $$ to pursue the makers in court. I think that anyone who buys a POS like this would be too cheap to buy a REAL Emerson knife anyway. Anyway, crack down on the dealers, but don't waste time and money needlessly. Just my $.02.

Understandable statement poboy

But we have to punish the wrong doers. If they don't they are condoning their actions. The only punishment they (the POS makers) would probably understand is hitting them in their wallets......and the fact that it's the only legal thing EKI can do

Another issue is if they don't pursue the company another company will see this and think, "Hey well EKI is only going after the dealer.... So why not go ahead with ripping them off?"

If EKI chose not to go after this one then the next guy can scream, "Unfair!!!" That you go after my company and not this one.

Ross T.

 

[wolfmann601]

I posted something very similar to "PEOPLE who BUY the POS knock-offs are just SCREWING America and hard-working AMERICANS" in the Auto section a while ago

I was amazed at how many people IGNORED me/slammed me and continued to post about the "QUALITY" of the China version of the MT HALO.

Now THAT is a FUNNY word to use when talking about STOLEN Patents and producing an absolute crap clone="QUALITY"

How could one EVER compare some absolutely sub-standard piece of crap to ANYTHING Emerson produces???? You get what YOU PAY FOR and it is our FELLOW AMERICANS that need to stop buying this SH*T if we are ever going to stop this type of CRIME; Supply and Demand, and too many UN-EDGE-U-Cated buy CLONES and then have the KNUTTS to post how "nice" they are:barf: :barf: :barf: ......wolf

 

[Phillip]

Couldn't they have at least ripped off the CQC8 or 9?
I'm joking of course
Dealers who sell junk knives like that need to be taught a lesson.

 

[callahwj]

Emerson is in a rare position here. Most knives, unless they have a special gimick are only protected by copyright law, but the wave has an airtight patent, writen in general language, so they have a good case against those that make this knife and are in a postition to oppose those who sell it.

 

[satin]

I emailed 888-Knives-R-Us... got this responce back...

Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention. We have removed the knife from our site and have no existing inventory on the item. In doing business we sell over 3,000 different knives and this item was a sample we received. We assure you we will not carry this product.

Again thank you for bringing this to our attention.

It appears that the page is indeed gone....

Doesnt mean I will ever buy from them.... :barf:

 

[scott475]

Well, they sure demonstrated poor judgement by putting that knife on their site, but look what we can do when we pull together...

WORD UP! POWER TO THE SUSPECTS!

 

[888KNIVESRUS]

I get this knife, like it, know that it is a copy, (like the HOLO copy, LCC Copy, Stryker Copy etc).
I take one photo of copy and put on our site. Get call from Mr Emerson, take off our site that knife and now don't have any and will not sell any.
There is a market for the sell of cheap knives. Copies or not.
I did not mean any disrespect to Mr Emerson. It bothers me more that I hurt (disrespect) him and hurt our Image more that any Patent law.
This is a family business and we try do every thing so we can sleep at night and pay bills and I can buy my Grand Kids toys.
If any one has a problem with a bad decision on my part and they don't want to buy from me because of this one mistake let him cast the first stone.

 

[callahwj]

I too am outraged about the wave knockoff, but before we nail any one dealer to the wall, remember that lots of sites sell knock-offs.
http://www.1sks.com/store/bargain-auto-shark.html
In fact, under mike turber's "dragon forge" brand name, a CQC-7 knockoff was sold. I bought one in a cheesy knife shop before I knew any better. I don't know what action should be taken against knock-offs, but lets look at this from all angles here, shall we?