Way off topic, Kidney stones!!!!

If you have not already passed it, I would not be blaming your pain killers, as they may decide to not work. I have heard this IS THE WAY: get a 3 gallons of distilled water, and a 6 or 12 pack of brew. drink about 1/2 gallon of water rather rapidly. After the feeling of "blowing your grits" (puking) goes away, do jumping jacks until you feel like "tossing your cookies again" have a seat, relax and drink a brew or so. (you should start taking PK's by now if you have not already as they can take up to an hour to start working. more water bounce around a bit (jumping jacks or just jumping in place) unless you are uncomfortable. try to bounce a little...gets the stones rolling. more PK's. keep following the aforementioned. should be pissing like a gutter by now. Don't forget the PK's. Don't flush the toilet unless you are sure your "diamond in the rough" has not checked out. stick with the previous instructions until your pebble comes rolling. If all goes well you won't feel a thing so make sure no flushing. (make the tape for the comedians) all they should hear is something akin to well somone pissing. If any screaming is heard you did not eat enough PK's. Remember we are trying to keep pain to minimum therefore we plan ahead. Once the pain starts and you are w/o PK's well I guess its like putting on a condom the morning after your romp. Or putting on a seat belt after crashing into a tree. If after all this fun you still have not made a stone, make sure you are not outta PK's and start over. Good luck. This method/process has worked many times with great success. The trick is being medicated while it passes...if your not paying attention you miss the show which is a good thing. Good Luck. (By the way if this works you can repay me with a sheath for a LEFBM, and HOGFSH) DO NOT FORGET YOUR TABLETS NO PAIN, NO PAIN.
 
greenbladepb said:
If you have not already passed it, I would not be blaming your pain killers, as they may decide to not work. I have heard this IS THE WAY: get a 3 gallons of distilled water, and a 6 or 12 pack of brew. drink about 1/2 gallon of water rather rapidly. After the feeling of "blowing your grits" (puking) goes away, do jumping jacks until you feel like "tossing your cookies again" have a seat, relax and drink a brew or so. (you should start taking PK's by now if you have not already as they can take up to an hour to start working. more water bounce around a bit (jumping jacks or just jumping in place) unless you are uncomfortable. try to bounce a little...gets the stones rolling. more PK's. keep following the aforementioned. should be pissing like a gutter by now. Don't forget the PK's. Don't flush the toilet unless you are sure your "diamond in the rough" has not checked out. stick with the previous instructions until your pebble comes rolling. If all goes well you won't feel a thing so make sure no flushing. (make the tape for the comedians) all they should hear is something akin to well somone pissing. If any screaming is heard you did not eat enough PK's. Remember we are trying to keep pain to minimum therefore we plan ahead. Once the pain starts and you are w/o PK's well I guess its like putting on a condom the morning after your romp. Or putting on a seat belt after crashing into a tree. If after all this fun you still have not made a stone, make sure you are not outta PK's and start over. Good luck. This method/process has worked many times with great success. The trick is being medicated while it passes...if your not paying attention you miss the show which is a good thing. Good Luck. (By the way if this works you can repay me with a sheath for a LEFBM, and HOGFSH) DO NOT FORGET YOUR TABLETS NO PAIN, NO PAIN.
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This method is for when the stones are still in the ureter; doesn't do so much if it's already in your bladder as it just needs to pass out the urethra. Just drink lots of fluids and I wouldn't drink much alcohol. The alcohol is used as a diuretic in this method but it would be better just to drink caffeine as your diuretic. Not only can alcohol lower you immune defenses to some degree and put you at more risk for infectious complications, but too much alcohol plus too much prescription pain meds= death! That is the number one killer with prescription drugs. It may help to take something like flomax if your doctor prescribed it as this will dilate the urethra. You may try something like Uristat too to numb up the bladder some (this is what you take if you have a urinary tract infection- makes your pee funny colors). Anyways, if it is already in the bladder you don't have long now! Just watch for that stone!
 
Ok guys, i need to tell you my situation. I have been battleing this for over a year now. I lost my right kidney due to a stone this year. Its dead, never to return. I have had 4 surguries and one bad staff infection cause of it. Oh and 3 stents for almost a year solid. One enphrostomy tube stuck out of my back for 2 months. I have been thru hell over my stone. It was 9mm and the staff infection almost killed me. If i hadnt gone to UAB in Birmingham ala. I would have died. All because of one stone.............So i know how you feel. I have lost my job and everything because of this. Thats how i come to know bladeforums, because of sitting in the house and not being able to do anything. Just my story. One year later and one dead kidney later and a world of pain because of one stone and a stupid urologist. Pick your doctors wisely guys.
 
This thread makes me want to go chug some water. Best of luck Chuddy Bear!
 
Be sure to get some rest. I feel lucky that I have never experienced those, though I have had gout a couple of times, usually in a foot, and that's not fun either. A friend of mine seems to get kidney stones often. In fact, he is one of your customers.
 
Well I am sure it is not in the bladder yet, it must be right above it still in the ureter tube. I have been drinking gallons of water and I think I am saturated.

I had lots of pain last night. When I was in the Hospital they had me on Demerol, I had never taken that before and I highly recommend it as a painkiller :D. The Doctor gave me a prescription of Vicoden and it doesnt seem to work nearly as good.

Are you guys being serious about the jumping jacks? I was thinking that it might help?
 
Chuddy Bear said:
Well I am sure it is not in the bladder yet, it must be right above it still in the ureter tube. I have been drinking gallons of water and I think I am saturated.

I had lots of pain last night. When I was in the Hospital they had me on Demerol, I had never taken that before and I highly recommend it as a painkiller :D. The Doctor gave me a prescription of Vicoden and it doesnt seem to work nearly as good.

Are you guys being serious about the jumping jacks? I was thinking that it might help?
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Worked for me.
Can't hurt.
 
Man, never had stones and hope I never do! I hope you get through this quick Chuddy...

Can't even imaging what you are going through...
 
Kidney stones run in the family, luckily I havn't had them yet, two very common items given in the hospital here for stones are '' beer @ 1 bottle per hour, I'm not kidding and my father was also told to drink cranberry juice to help pass them. Hang in there Chuck.
 
Any news yet Chuddy ? Shoulder your weapon man, judge the distance, aim carefully now, adjust yer angle, take a deep breath, close eyes, and, and, and GET DOWN EVERYONE and...FIRE :eek:

Sorry man can't help it :D and seriously I hope it goes OK for ya :thumbup:
 
condolences man,

I hung out with a friend, who has a wall of medals and a couple of Purple Hearts, as he was trying to pass a stone, it was not a fun time.

They ought to give a medal for kidney stone passers !




Same comment, the Demerol they gave me in the ER last week, was a lot better than the Vicoden they sent my home with. :barf:


Good luck, this 2 will pass :rolleyes::eek:
 
raythebigfoot said:
Just drink lots of fluids and I wouldn't drink much alcohol. The alcohol is used as a diuretic in this method but it would be better just to drink caffeine as your diuretic.
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I can not offer any insights into kidney stones (thankfully), but I thought I would make this observation:

I drink a fair amount of caffeine. It no longer seems to be the diuretic it once was. On the other hand, a single beer drains me like a sluice. I went to a bar the other night to watch the Broncos (stupid NFL network!) and after a single beer, had to piss 5 times before the game was over.

On the other hand, RTBF is correct about narcotics and alcohol being a poor mix.

Rick - drinking 3 liters of tea a day
 
Sorry to read you are going through this Chuck. I have had a couple friends go through this. They had nothing helpful to say other than you'll be thankful that it's over when it is.
I had the anesthesia wear off during my vasectomy, if the pain is anything like that I can only empathize. I wish you well Bro.
 
The stone must have broken up on its own. I just passed about a 3mm stone. It felt like a 300MM stone coming out :eek::eek::eek::eek:. Hopefully the rest will follow soon. I cant believe something that small causes this much pain.

Thanks for all the well wishes guys.
 
Quick note on alcohol and pain killers. Friend of mine had a bad knee. He had been out on a Saturday cutting firewood. Allergies had been acting up. Took a pain killer and some antihistimines when he got home that night, had something to eat, drank a couple of beers, and went to sleep watching the television. His wife found him dead in the barco lounger the next morning. Official report from the coroner was drug overdose from mixing pain killers with alcohol. HIs wife swears that he only took one pain killer and the toxicology report verified it. Don't mix them, guys.
 
Been there done that. The first KS happened while I was in Florida on vacation, ruined 5 days of the visit.

Second one was passed with little fanfare. Woke up earlier morn with pain, went back to bed, and later at work, it popped out. I was lucky with that one.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is what causes the pain? isn't it the pressure build up in the kidney from the eureter being blocked? Its important to keep hydrated, but by drinking huge amounts of fluid only adds to the pain and discomfort.

On the first one, i took the doctors recommendation to drink lots of fluids. Did so, and was in agony for two days. Layed off the fluids for the remainder of the time and drank normal amounts, which resulted in alot less pain, and the ability to take a plane trip for 2 1/2 hours bearable. I passed it two days later.

I did find some short lived relief though. I was taking a shower at one point, and had the spray directed on my flank area. The pain literally washed away. It was like a switch was turned off, and the pain stopped. Walked away from the spray, and in a minute or so, pain was back. Back under, and it stopped again. Anyone else experience this?

Smith
 
AWGunS said:
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is what causes the pain? isn't it the pressure build up in the kidney from the eureter being blocked? Its important to keep hydrated, but by drinking huge amounts of fluid only adds to the pain and discomfort.

On the first one, i took the doctors recommendation to drink lots of fluids. Did so, and was in agony for two days. Layed off the fluids for the remainder of the time and drank normal amounts, which resulted in alot less pain, and the ability to take a plane trip for 2 1/2 hours bearable. I passed it two days later.

Smith
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I've wondered this myself... I've just done the "drink TONS of water" advice and man-o-man is it painful (but quicker.) I'm wondering if you might be on to something here.

I hope I don't have a "next time." But I might try it if I do...
 
who has had Gall stones and Kidney stones? Which is worse?

I had Gall stones and they hurt beyond what mere mortals are set up to handle. I was lying in a oil puddle flat on my back with my legs in the air like a dying cockroach begging for the para-medics to kill me. The wife was not amused.

So who can compare?
 
Justabuyer said:
who has had Gall stones and Kidney stones? Which is worse?

I had Gall stones and they hurt beyond what mere mortals are set up to handle. I was lying in a oil puddle flat on my back with my legs in the air like a dying cockroach begging for the para-medics to kill me. The wife was not amused.

So who can compare?
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Haven't had gallstones, but have seen many patients that did. I would have to say kidney stones win the pain battle, but it also depends on the complications from the stones. Also, many many people have gallstones and don't actually know it because the majority of them never go into the ducts and cause any pain.
 
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