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WE vs KME vs Lansky

Discussion in 'Maintenance, Tinkering & Embellishment' started by Fuori, Jun 23, 2015.

  1. fvdk

    fvdk

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    Mar 1, 2013
    Good point!
    I use the iGaging Angle Cube that came with my WE but if I do not have it at hand I also sometimes use the free Android App "iHandy Level" which works very well.
     
  2. marsalla

    marsalla

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    Mar 26, 2015
    Both of those devices will work well but I am too old school. I dont want something where the batteres will die.
     
  3. Fuori

    Fuori

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    Oct 13, 2014
    One last question before I buy the KMA, I spent some time today reading topics on here about the Edge Pro where people said they ended up going back to stones. My biggest concern is buying it and then feeling like I wanted to do the same.
     
  4. fvdk

    fvdk

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    Mar 1, 2013
    I have tried the Edge Pro but it did not work for me. Maybe because I am left handed although I doubt it but I found it awkward to hold the blade steady when using my right hand so I gave up on it. I am of course aware that most systems have a learning curve but I did not like it enough to invest the time in it so I sold it and bought the WE in stead.

    I am probably not the right person to advise about freehand sharpening with stones. I have no problem using stones and I would say that I am pretty good at it and can get my knives very sharp but not as clean and consistent as with a guided system (which stones can be used freehand as well of course).

    A lot of people claim that they can get results that are just as good as those of a WE or other guided system but I think that very few if any, actually can.
    Yes, very good results are absolutely possible but you just have to look at the edge from most factory knives that are hand sharpened. The people who sharpen those knives do so all day every day for years yet most of us would say that those edges are just acceptable.

    I think that everyone who wants to sharpen knives should try to learn how to sharpen freehand as it is a skill that will be useful for the rest of your life but I think that > 99% will get better results with a guided system. Not to mention that a couple of good quality (diamond) stones in different grids are not cheap either.
     
  5. Fuori

    Fuori

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    Oct 13, 2014
    I have some stuff to think about.
     
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2015
  6. bflying

    bflying Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 4, 2014
    The accessory I forgot to mention ( but others didn't) is the base. I did buy one, and use it about half the time. Really just depends on my mood, and what I'm doing at the time. If spending a little extra time to do a full re-profile, it is very handy. I also did just add the pen blade clamp too. Real easy to change out, and works good for tiny little blades like small SAK's or the pen blade on a Barlow.

    But many of these "systems" are like a Dillon reloader. You can start out with a base model, and add features as you go or can afford.
     
  7. not-so-sharp

    not-so-sharp

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    Jun 29, 2015
    Seems you can use Lansky hones with the KME . Remove the screw from end of the Lansky hone's plastic carrier, screw the KME rod into the Lansky hone carrier...and there you go.....
     
  8. fvdk

    fvdk

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    Mar 1, 2013
    Funny, I have used the KME stone holder with the diamond stones with the Lansky clamp.

    Unless the KME holder has changed, you can not use it with the Lansky stones as the KME rod has #8 - 32 UNC thread while the Lansky hones have #10 - 24 UNC treads.
     
  9. not-so-sharp

    not-so-sharp

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    Jun 29, 2015
  10. aesmith

    aesmith

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    Jan 19, 2015
    Which thread is it do you know? My Lanskys are 10-24
     
  11. fvdk

    fvdk

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    Mar 1, 2013
    All my Lansky stones are 10-24 as well.
     
  12. wilejoe

    wilejoe

    62
    Aug 8, 2013
    I'm basically a beginner in this fun world of sharpening but I have the KME and love it. If you have any questions just call Ron and he will be more then happy to take the time and help you out

    Joe
     
  13. marsalla

    marsalla

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    Mar 26, 2015
    I agree with our member about the base; it is very handy. Also the KME strops are what make the most difference on shiny edges.. Being left handed will not make any difference.
     
  14. not-so-sharp

    not-so-sharp

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    Jun 29, 2015
    Sorry, don't know . Only know they fit and this works fine.
     
  15. LonnieRay

    LonnieRay

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    May 3, 2016
    This is an interesting discussion! I want to learn how to properly sharpen a knife and not ruin it. I have some expensive Case knives and I want to properly sharpen the blades. Have heard about the Wicked Edge, KME, Edge Pro, and Landsky systems. I am thinking the KME might be for me. But yet maybe I will make knife sharpening a hobby and buy all those sharpeners.
     
  16. skyhorse

    skyhorse Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 30, 2010
    If I was to buy a system it would be the KME. A really good review by Nick.
     
  17. willc

    willc Gold Member Gold Member

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    Aug 13, 2013
    If you are sharpening Case knives the KME with pen blade attachment is the best option out there for systems imo.

    I prefer freehand but when I want a degree of precision I pull out my KME.
     
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  18. maximus83

    maximus83 Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 7, 2011
    This is a good thread and appreciate the balanced comparative discussion of these system. I'm mainly a freehand sharpener now, but have used Sharpmaker a lot, still have one, and wanted to add a few comments on that system based on recent experimentation I have done and posted about here at BF.

    With a few add-on purchases, you can do some pretty effective things with Sharpmaker to overcome its limitations. For example, in addition to Sharpmaker, say that you acquire the diamond or cbn rods (400 mesh), the UF ceramic rods (estimated to be in the 1800 - 2200 grit range), the Congress Tools Moldmaster Silicon carbide 150 grit triangle stones (only about $12 for both), and something to strop with.

    With this setup, you can sharpen nearly all super steels effectively, except perhaps a few super high vanadium ones like S110v. With the diamonds, you can put a good medium-coarse shaving sharp edge on super steels, then use light strokes on your UF rods to micro bevel or refine further, and a strop with CBN compound to finish and get it to hair popping. You can do full edge reprofiles in a reasonable amount of time (I've done it several times, including in the last week with an M390 blade that took about an hour and I posted about here on the forum). Is all this 'optimal' or the best possible sharpening setup? No way! You could always spend more: KME, WE, nice freehand stones whether diamond, Shaptons, Naniwa, etc, and get better results. But the SM system with these add-ons is no slouch. It can profile an edge, handle nearly all popular super steels, handle all kinds of blades including recurves and serrations, and get your knives seriously sharp.

    I wouldn't 'recommend' SM as a serious alternative to freehanding or any of these systems here. But where I would recommend it is the person who doesn't want to get into more cost and the learning curve of freehand or these guided systems, and just wants to do a better job getting their knives sharp than say a pull-thru sharpener. :p For those folks, Sharpmaker with a few add-ons can actually give them quite a bit of capability, up to and including edge reprofiles and sharpening super steels at 15 dps.

    Still, I agree with you that if a person want to spend some $$ on a guided system and is willing to get KME, there's absolutely no value in Sharpmaker. Sharpmaker is primarily targeting a niche market, like the type of knife owner I listed above. It helps keep the cost down, keeps the sharpening process simple, and gets you solid general-purpose edges at 15 dps.

     
  19. maximus83

    maximus83 Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 7, 2011
    Super useful side-by-side comparison comments in this thread. Good to hear this kind of firsthand user feedback on the pros/cons of each.

    Although I'm freehanding right now, the KME system sounds pretty interesting and if I were going to get into guided systems, this is the most interesting to me of all of them.

     
  20. jeepin

    jeepin Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 20, 2003




    Uggg I can’t listen to that guy. It just ruins the review.
     

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