what about TOPS?

Status
Not open for further replies.
Jerry,

Nice try, my friend.

I am a member of SG FIVE, and the team's consultant/liaison to Reed for the TAG show. I put in some hours there every week, when I'm not training.

As far as sidelines go, you are certainly free to come sit on the sidelines and watch me during the training exercises. That way, you can put any doubt about my skills or abilites to rest, as I am more than willing to put up or shut up in this area, and in the company of the Spec Operators and law enforcement SWAT members who will be there at the show. The ones who have trained with me know what I can do, and I always get invited back.

By the way, thank you for signing up. I really do feel this venue will be the best "put up or shut up" venue for everyone involved.

I will call you soon.

Brian.
 
Contendor,

Yep you read correctly. In the large picture there are only to types of steel, carbon and stainless. Sure there are differences in each steel but these are actually so minor that 99.9% of knife buyers would not know the differance. You would be unable to tell if a blade is ATS-34 or 154CM. You would be unable to tell if a blade is 154CM or S30V or 1090 and O1. Hell I would bet money that you could not tell the differance between 420 and S30V for that matter.

And yes and Buck fixed blade will do the job just as well as a Loveless Dear Hunter. You may want to kid yourself and think otherwise. But you are just fooling yourself. As cutting tools most companies produce very servicable products.

As for my grammer and spelling, whatever, you are not worth my time.

What the hell does your opinion matter anyways. Who are you? Oh, your a salesman. Oohhh I am impressed. When you actually do something that qualifies you to comment then I will listen. Just being an unpaid moderator does not make you jackshit. Feel free to call and whine to my boss all you like. Oh or did you forget that I actually know what I am talking about and have my own knife company. You can't get me fired.

So just go back to your mommas tit, and leave the sharp tools to the big boys.

Enough of this BS, I have knives to make.
 
R.W. - Thank you as a knife maker for saying what I had suspected for so long about steels. There is so much hype floating around touting one steel over another. I've often wondered in a blind tested if most of us could tell one steel from another by performance alone.

Originally posted by R.W.Clark
Contendor,

Yep you read correctly. In the large picture there are only to types of steel, carbon and stainless. Sure there are differences in each steel but these are actually so minor that 99.9% of knife buyers would not know the differance. You would be unable to tell if a blade is ATS-34 or 154CM. You would be unable to tell if a blade is 154CM or S30V or 1090 and O1. Hell I would bet money that you could not tell the differance between 420 and S30V for that matter.

And yes and Buck fixed blade will do the job just as well as a Loveless Dear Hunter. You may want to kid yourself and think otherwise. But you are just fooling yourself. As cutting tools most companies produce very servicable products.

As for my grammer and spelling, whatever, you are not worth my time.

What the hell does your opinion matter anyways. Who are you? Oh, your a salesman. Oohhh I am impressed. When you actually do something that qualifies you to comment then I will listen. Just being an unpaid moderator does not make you jackshit. Feel free to call and whine to my boss all you like. Oh or did you forget that I actually know what I am talking about and have my own knife company. You can't get me fired.

So just go back to your mommas tit, and leave the sharp tools to the big boys.

Enough of this BS, I have knives to make.
Click to expand...
 
All I know is Ronald Clark impressed the hell out of Ted Nugent on the prototype knife he did for the Nugent/RAT collaboration. It was simply 440C mirror polished.

BTW Ronald, this project is coming along nicely. Ted and I have been communicating back and forth most of the morning and have most of the details worked out. We also got the zebra striping on the handles worked out and are going with a zebra striped molded sheath with Nugent logos and signature.

If no unexpected problems come up then it should be a stock item by SHOT. You should try to make SHOT this year and work the booth with us since you did the proto for us. We're trying to get Ted to work the booth a little if he makes it down.

Ted Nugent is a straight up good dude that knows what he wants in a hunting knife. You impressed him with your work.

One other thing I meant to tell you. One of the knife rags interviewed us on the knife at Blade and they're doing a short article on it. I told them to be sure and mention your name as the proto maker since I had a war with "my magazine" on trying to get this same thing done when the project started to develop.

Rock and roll!
 
Rob, welcome back to the energizer bunny thread.

you mean y'all actually have radios up there? after crashing your truck over a cell phone ringing...I'm not so sure about you. :D
 
Eric, why not talk this out with Mr. Fuller? See what kind of man he is and how he stands. Each can have an opinion without foaming about it. Sometimes paper isn't worth anything but a mans word one on one should always be considered.

Mr. Randall and Mr. Stamp please follow Queensbury rules.:D Actually I would like to see a comparrison test of each of your abilities. Head to head. How about an American hobo's knife? You each tell what should be, how much it should cost, and prove with your own methods that it is best. No other contenders in this match just these two, and we let the knife makers here be the judges. You can't flame each other personally just the work. How about it guys? I would be please to watch you work and you don't have to leave the computer.

Also a toast to all the knive makers out there big or small!!
 
I'd have to know what an American Hobo knife is before I started designing it :D

"Also a toast to all the knive makers out there big or small!!" - I'll drink to that
 
I guess it's a tribute of some kind.

I just happened to notice that Cliff Stamp has made over 5,000 posts in the 1,300 odd days he has been a member of the Blade forums. This means he averages out at just under 4 posts per day. That - my friends is dedication. It must be tough to do all that testing, teaching, research and read all those posts in order to make a lucid comment at the rate of 4 per day for nearly four years!

My hat is off to you Cliff. Seriously.

Ron
 
Originally posted by R.W.Clark
Contendor,

Yep you read correctly. In the large picture there are only to types of steel, carbon and stainless. Sure there are differences in each steel but these are actually so minor that 99.9% of knife buyers would not know the differance. You would be unable to tell if a blade is ATS-34 or 154CM. You would be unable to tell if a blade is 154CM or S30V or 1090 and O1. Hell I would bet money that you could not tell the differance between 420 and S30V for that matter.

And yes and Buck fixed blade will do the job just as well as a Loveless Dear Hunter. You may want to kid yourself and think otherwise. But you are just fooling yourself. As cutting tools most companies produce very servicable products.

As for my grammer and spelling, whatever, you are not worth my time.

What the hell does your opinion matter anyways. Who are you? Oh, your a salesman. Oohhh I am impressed. When you actually do something that qualifies you to comment then I will listen. Just being an unpaid moderator does not make you jackshit. Feel free to call and whine to my boss all you like. Oh or did you forget that I actually know what I am talking about and have my own knife company. You can't get me fired.

So just go back to your mommas tit, and leave the sharp tools to the big boys.

Enough of this BS, I have knives to make.
Click to expand...

RW - Wow. You said it all. I think your words speak for themselves.

You singlehandedly have taken knife making back 20 years.

Congratulations. Heck, there isn't any need for knife magazines either, because their articles and comparisons - as you put it - are useless as all knives steels and all heat treats (especially the ones done by Buck, Strider, and others) are all identical.

As for who I am, compared to you I am obviously a nobody.

Thanks for the education.
 
Originally posted by Quill
How about an American hobo's knife?

Also a toast to all the knive makers out there big or small!!
Click to expand...

I think the idea of an Aerican hobo's knife is a great thought, likely akin to building the best machete. It really deserves it own thread.

As for that last little bit, it's a most welcome gesture, but you'll generally find that few knifemakers hang out here because it is a bit wearing to hear all the negatives expessed about us. There were about 500 knifemakers at the Blade show recently, but probably fewer than 20 post on Bladeforums with any regularity. It's too bad because there is a lot of useful information to share. Some of it might surprise you. For instance, if I were to head back into the jungle (I spent a couple years there) I'd take one of those $3 specials (more probably an $18 Ontario). If I were planning to hop freight cars, I'd want that Hobo's knife rather than one of my own $400 customs. It's a shame that useful dialog is squelched by so much quaisi-academic BS.

Jeff, stop picking on Rob! :)

edited to add this Contender, you are right. You aren't much. What R.W. said wasn't that they were all the same. He said YOU couldn't tell the difference. Pay attention!
 
21690938nHdSbdWuWM_ph.jpg



"And that's all I have to say about that..."



Mike
 
In an effort to cheer up this thread, and create a new hotbed of controversy..... I submit that the man in the big cowboy hat is light years ahead of the rest of you in hobo knife research. The following fax was intercepted from a transmission to the Camillus base camp.

spork1.jpg
 
Jerry H. - sorry pal, that wasn't what RW said. This is what RW said:

Originally posted by R.W.Clark
While your at it check out Strider, Busse, Livesay and many other custom makers. You will find one that fits your needs and then price won't be an issue. Is one better made than the other. No not really. Dispite what some guys claim with statements of super secret steels, they are all the same. Most are made of the same steels and heat treated in the same ovens. My knives are heat treated in the same ovens as Rinaldi's, Striders, Hossoms, Mayos, Loveless, Bucks and almost every other knifemakers out there. It just comes down to design preferences, thats all.
Click to expand...

You see Jerry, I did pay attention and by the way, the feeling is mutual, I don't think you are much either.
 
Contender, I was responding to your quote. You're as bad a Cliff.

And I assure you I think far less of you. You see, you have nothing to contribute here, maybe anywhere. At least I have a craft, purpose, goal.
 
Oh man, y'all rank right up there with pig uteruses. I can't decide which is better entertainment tonight.

Take a look at all the custom makers, this must be the biggest pissing match ever on the forums.

Spark! Can we get this thread anchored on top of the general discussion forum?


Buzzbait, nice pic. The tactical spork is in a world all it's own :)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top