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You can't go wrong with knives made by Benchmade or Zero Tolerance.
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Wow do you post the same comment in every post... See http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=509654
1) seems even his broken test rated them the same (4 blade rating), in what world is that destroyed?
2) you called someone out(in the thread I linked above) as a fan boy. I called you out there and will do so again here... You seem like the fanboy, we all know CS and Strider go together like matches and gasoline.
3) The so called "test" only tests one aspect of a knives (toughness). They leave a lot to be desired. You can read my replies on pg. 3 of the linked thread if you forgotten the reasons why.
now with that all said BKultra stop crying, for all our sakes
Not crying only pointing out the flaws in both Cold Steel's marking and Noss's test. They both tend to appeal to young men and neither are showing you anything about said knife. I am trying to prevent the ignorant from buying into these.
And the reason both you and knifetests.com compare the GI to a Strider is b/c it is a blatant rip off of their design. The reason many shy away from CS is b/c they steal many different manufactures designs and make cheap knock offs (Something China excels at ironically)
Definitions of ignorant: (Don't want anyone to think im name calling since this term is often mis used)
1) unaware because of a lack of relevant information or knowledge
2) ignorance is also the state of being uninformed
And the reason both you and knifetests.com compare the GI to a Strider is b/c it is a blatant rip off of their design. The reason many shy away from CS is b/c they steal many different manufactures designs and make cheap knock offs (Something China excels at ironically)
Of course, if a fancy striped finish and a big name on your knife matter more than performance, Strider is the clear winner.
If it is so easy to rip off the design and build it in China and sell it for so much less, and produce a product that is competitive, that casts serious doubts on the value of your product in the first place. I don't see many knockoffs of Chris Reeve or Fallkniven knives kicking around. Why? Their products have some real thought put into them.
Am I claiming that Striders aren't good knives? No. They're a simple effective design using good steel. Guess what? So are the CS GI Tantos. 1055 might not be exotic, sexy, or "tactical", but it is perfectly serviceable. Strider isn't the first company to put out a flat slab of steel with a cord wrapped handle, either. I seem to recall United or some other crapfactory putting out a "ninja" sword in a similar style ages ago. I'm not claiming it's of the same quality as Strider products (or even the CS product), but the idea was around.
Of course, if a fancy striped finish and a big name on your knife matter more than performance, Strider is the clear winner.
Does Cold Steel engage in some shady marketing and product switcheroos? (Carbon V to AUS8A anyone?) Sure do. Is that a reason not to buy their products? Well, that's up to you.
It's not fanboyism to defend a product someone claims is crappy simply because of who makes it or where. It is to scream bloody murder whenever anyone makes a comparison.
You're right that noss's tests only test toughness, and that this is only part of the story. That doesn't mean his tests aren't valid, though I agree that more context should be given when citing them. How important toughness is depends on your application.
I have a bunch of fixed blade knives including Fallkniven, Busse, Cold Steel, Benchmade, Ontario, KaBar, Randall Made, and Strider. My Striders perform very well. No, I don't chop cement blocks or bend the knife when it is held in a vice. But, for my knife type chores I like the way my Striders perform and I'm happy to have them. Along with their performance, I think Strider has come up with some very interesting designs.
Rich
Busse
Swamp Rat
Scrap Yard
Ranger
Fehrman
Chris Reeve
Fallkniven