what are the pros and cons of edcing a fixed blade

I like the non-knife people stories. It reminds me of the kind of scary world we live in. :eek: That's why I'm glad for forums like this where most of us are somewhat sane, knife-loving people. :thumbup:

I have to say, though, that it seems that it depends a lot on the person whether folders or fixed blades are more scary to them. I know some folks who always freak out when they hear that snap of a locking folder or see one flicked open one-handed - and these same people have no trouble whatsoever seeing Moras and other fixed blades.

I hear you on this one, I have to make it a point to go slowly when I open any of my OH knives at work, or I get this look like I am a life time criminal...from people I have worked with for 14 years!
 
Check local laws, just to get a baseline of what is legal. when you do so get actual statute numbers and check them out many LEO's have the opinion that something is illegal cause they think it is.

On the practical side folders are not anywhere near as strong as fixed blade knive, n or do they deploy from proper carry as quickly. Personaly I carry a 5 inch bladed R-10 from Himalayan Imports or one of their kerambits as my edc. The R-10 is easier to carry unnoticed under a shirt in an inside the pants sheath. There are also several knives available which offer horizontal carry sheaths worn in the center of the back that is also a good option.
 
First the appearance of the knife has a lot to do with peoples reactions. Tactical looking knives, big prominant serrations and spyderco-like knives, i.e. with holes in them or funny looking blades, tend to set people off.

I EDC a 3.25" fixed blade - the breeden kat knife. In its orange G10 scales and friendly looking blade profile - it looks just like a paring knife when I pull it out. People don't seem to mind it at all even when I use it at the university. Of course I am a prof and look like a quiet friendly guy so there is a certain trust inherent in my actions.

I have gotten strange looks and questions from students on my field boat when I wore a tactical looking dive knife. Same thing with the RC-4 -I think the black mircata scales and coated blade does it. No issue with the smaller buck diamond back guide or breeden kat though.
 
:confused:I was thinking to my self today and i was wondering why dont more people edc fixed blades because theres no moving parts there stronger and just more capable than a folder so now im on the hunt for a edc fixedblade. So in your opinion what are the cons of carrying a fixed bladed knife?

I am sure this has all been stated, but I am going to go ahead and give my
$.02 anyway. A fixed blade is nice if you live in an area where you need it more for daily tasks and/or SD. It does provide you with a more simple design and having less moving parts is a great selling point. However, I live in Texas. For the most part of the year, it would be uncomfortable at best to carry a FB in a manner that would not draw attention to yourself. It's too dang hot most of the time to be able to conceal it like you can even a large folder. I carry my CRKT folder IWB under my belt when at work because they scare people :rolleyes: I also think a folder is less likely, at least down here, to attract the attention of LE or someone else who would wnat to hassle you. I feel the same way about carrying knives and guns: the less people that know the better I feel.


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Yes I agree with Elen - fixed blades are always the better design from the perspective of using the knife in terms of cutting performance, comfort and safety. Folders are a compromise to make them easier to carry. If you had to design a knife for pure utility of use - you would never make it a folder. I also don't think that you can make a folding knife handle as comfortable as can be made with a fixed blade.

If on the other hand you assign the ability to carry a folder in your pocket as essential to its function - then you negate some of the above argument.
 
For virtually everything that I do in my day to day life, a small slipjoint (SAK, medium stockman) will be fine. Sometimes, it seems that even carrying 3 or 3.25 clipped folder isn't really needed. However, in the winter, when its freezing out, I have been known to carry a fixed blade at times, simply because it is easier to manipulate with gloves on and/ or cold hands.
 
As long as it is not conceled I have never had issues with people noticing. I love fixed blades solely due to the wider variety of tasks they can handle.

In fact, living in Massachusetts, I have been lucky enough to accumulate comments like, "that's a cute knife" or "what handle wood is that" or my favorite "where can i get one?"
 
i have carried a fixed blade concealed for almost 10 years now. it is not that hard to do if you get the right sheath and put it in the right spot. you can even carry concealed 10" bladed bowies if you are of mind to. trust me though you have to get a good sheath otherwise it will become too much of a hassle and you will resort back to folders again.

when i did carry a clip folder i chose to conceal it inside waist band as well. if i needed to cut something in public i would use my sak instead. i find in todays world it is just easier to use a non threatening tool instead of using something that will draw attention to yourself regardless of your legal right to do so.

speed, effectiveness, and ease of use are of least importance to me when there are sheeple around which is why i always carry a sak for public use. plus i find it to compliment my primary knife in the woods too!
 
Reading all these sheeple comments makes me happy I live where there aren't any. I've never seen anyone around here bat an eye at someone wearing a fixed blade on their belt.
 
I EDC a BRKT Lil TUSK in a home made sheath every day . I service computers and cash registers and I have never had anyone make a comment or give me funny looks. I did get lots of looks and a few negative comments when I EDC a BM 710HS. The 710 was slightly quicker to deploy and put away but not much. It also didn't take up as muck room in my pocket but that isn't i big issue for me. I had a slippie snap shut on my hand once and appreciate the security of a fixed blade. I also keep my finger nails trimmed short enough the slippies are a bit difficult to open. I don't need to fish around my pocket for the Lil TUSK like I did with a slippie.

The cons that I have are: I am afraid of cutting my pants when I resheath the knife but I have yet to do so. I have one pair of pants that the sheath doesn't work well with. It rotates while I am driving and occasionally dumps the knife on the floor of the van.

The Lil TUSK is the perfect design for my EDC tasks. My wife keeps a PSK in her purse and likes it very much. If you are going to carry in your pocket I would rethink a carbon blade. If you are young, and or look like a trouble maker then I would scrap the whole idea.
 
I edc one of three knives:

out on the town: Gene Ingram Lacer

out in the bush: Bark River Aurora

At work: Scrapyard Guard


If anybody gives me any lip at work, I hit them the five foot prybar that's usually in my hands. I figure that will teach them not to worry about TV weapons.

Honestly nobody gives me any lip about the big scrapper. Nobody seems to worry much about any of my knives. Or if they do they keep it to themselves.
 
were are you living in the uk?

Oh, I'm not on the UK. I'm in Switzerland.
To be positive about it, I must admit that the laws and the way laws are interpreted are a far cry from the way things are in the uk.
Thank God for that...
 
I have found that knives in pretty colors are slightly less likely to get a negative response than black tacticool ones. And a fixed blade is almost a differant tool altogether than a folder. Esp when the fixed blade has a nice strong easy to care for convex edge.

Here are some of my small fixed blades:
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I can put them in my purse or if I am wearing a belt, and most "hiking" shorts come with their own, the small sheath is invisible.
 
This whole folder vs fixed blade thing comes from the fact that most people don't really use their knives for much. For such folks, a folder will be a perfectly reasonable choice, and indeed more reasonable than a fixed blade - if you're not going to use a knife much, why carry around a relatively large and heavy fixed blade when you could carry a small and light folder. But for those that actually do a lot of tasks which benefit greatly from a blade, such as cutting down woods, skinning game, working on wood for fires and shelters, etc etc, a fixed blade is what they will want. And in those cases where such users will bring a folder, you will note that they almost invariably carry also a fixed blade, often even an axe.

That is a very interesting way to put things in perspective, but I imagine the overwhelming majority of us fall into the "don't really use their knives for much" category. I say this fairly broadly but, barring being a cattleman or trapper, very few of us would use knives, daily, out of need, as you've described. I mean, how many of us are actively making shelters on a regular basis for reasons other than recreation? How many of us hunt all our meat year-round and are doing it out of neccessity? If you're building fires daily, I would suggest a chainsaw, wood splitter, or at least a good axe. I see where you're going with what you're stating, but the majority of us are using these tools(fixed blades) by some measure of choice. Even if you're spending time every day in the woods, if you're going home at night, it's still a pastime. I average over a hundred days/year in my kayak , year round, but I'm still just a paddler. I'm not living out of my boat.
Not trying to argue with you, but I sorta think your version of why someone carries a FB(or needs to) is somewhat narrow. I guess for many it really isn't about "need" at all. We're knife guys whom are also outdoors enthusiasts, but here are plenty of outdoors enthusiasts whom aren't knife guys.

For me, I just really dig my little J. Neilson BUK and it slips into my pocket with ease. But, for daily carry, I prefer a folder.
 
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I'm sure none of us wants this to turn into a "folder vs fixed" battle. I choose to carry a heavy duty folder everyday and it is usually the same folder that I take camping too. Its all just up to each individual and the dumb laws. What I could get by with, just having a folder, someone else would need/want a fixed blade for.

A pro with a fixed blade is that you don't have to worry so much when batonning, and there aren't any moving parts to do maintenance on.

Cons are that for the most part they aren't as legal in a lot of areas, and they can't be concealed as easily. There are exceptions, but not enough to tip the balance, otherwise everybody would be carrying fixed blades.
Just some .02
 
That is a very interesting way to put things in perspective, but I imagine the overwhelming majority of us fall into the "don't really use their knives for much" category. I say this fairly broadly but, barring being a cattleman or trapper, very few of us would use knives, daily, out of need, as you've described. I mean, how many of us are actively making shelters on a regular basis for reasons other than recreation? How many of us hunt all our meat year-round and are doing it out of neccessity? If you're building fires daily, I would suggest a chainsaw, wood splitter, or at least a good axe. I see where you're going with what you're stating, but the majority of us are using these tools(fixed blades) by some measure of choice. Even if you're spending time every day in the woods, if you're going home at night, it's still a pastime. I average over a hundred days/year in my kayak , year round, but I'm still just a paddler. I'm not living out of my boat.
Not trying to argue with you, but I sorta think your version of why someone carries a FB(or needs to) is somewhat narrow. I guess for many it really isn't about "need" at all. We're knife guys whom are also outdoors enthusiasts, but here are plenty of outdoors enthusiasts whom aren't knife guys.

For me, I just really dig my little J. Neilson BUK and it slips into my pocket with ease. But, for daily carry, I prefer a folder.

I agree - it certainly isn't about need. As I said, one doesn't need a fixed blade to survive most situations. One doesn't even need a folder. So how could it be about need? It isn't. What it is about is superior performance. When you're using something, be that a tool or drink, a whole lot, it makes sense to want (not need) that which gives the best performance, because that saves your time and/or makes things more fun.

All tool use is about choice. People did survive well before even the most rudimentary tools were invented. And yet people keep pushing for better tools with better performance. Because that's smart.

So, that's why I carry a fixed blade. Not because I need to, but because I can, because it's a far superior tool in actual use compared to folding knives. If I was only carrying a knife for the purpose of having something in my pockets or to cut open letters with, I would then carry a folder, because then size and weight would be the only things that mattered. But when I'm hunting, or backpacking, or just working around the house or even plain eating something that requires cutting, a fixed blade just does everything plain better and is easier to clean up afterwards.

There are of course, as others have said, obvious "cons" to fixed blades. They're generally somewhat harder to conceal than folders. In some places, they're not quite as legal as folders. For me, neither is a problem. I don't carry knives to assassinate people with them, so it doesn't matter how easy they are to conceal. The law here makes no difference between a fixed blade and a folder, so that's not a problem, either.

Really, I've always found the whole folder vs fixed battle humorous. It's as much a battle as a fight between the USA and the autonomous province of Åland would be a war - there's just no comparison, and one is simply far superior to the other. :D The one reason why I often bring up the rather harsh "folders aren't even real knives" argument is that a lot of people are stuck on folders these days, at least over there in the USA it seems, and are missing out on far better knives if they honestly never get to use a good fixed blade.

Ultimately, of course, it's a free world. A man can do whatever he wants, just so long as he faces the consequences. I have nothing against folks who carry folders and prefer them. Personal choice, different uses for different folk, and all that. I'll only have a problem when someone actually says a folder is a better knife. Because it factually isn't. ;)
 
Personally I have been on a "less is more" kick the last few years, so I never carry a fixed on me anymore, just a SAK, and not even a lockblade. I have a couple of fixed blades in my EDC bag, Gossman PSK, but nothing on me.

But for years I carried a couple of different fixed blades and in NH and VT it generally wasnt a problem, as long as I wasnt in a bigger town. I got harressed all the time in MA, didnt matter where I was, I was a LEO magnet. I dumped the fixed for a folder and/or a Multitool, and had no issues after that.

If I am in or headed to the woods I always have a solid fixed blade or two, but honestly, I havent run into anything yet that my folder won't handle.
 
I edc a buck when I was a splicer, next to my snips.
The cons were I poked a hole in my brother's weight lifting bench. And it sometimes caught on cafe chairs.
Never could wear it stuffed in back pocket like some folks do. Now the splicers have a pouch with cable knife and snips together. I saw a sign in a small Texas town bar that said "No snips or nines allowed", guess the telephone guys there were bad.
And if you guys are wearing "under" the shirt, isn't that the same as "concealed"??
 
This whole folder vs fixed blade thing comes from the fact that most people don't really use their knives for much. For such folks, a folder will be a perfectly reasonable choice, and indeed more reasonable than a fixed blade - .


Some of those clam packs can be really tough! :D
 
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