What Benchmades do you think are and aren't worth it after MAP?

MAP stands for Minimum ADVERTISED Price. Benchmade does not (and cannot) control the actual selling price.

Actual selling price can be considerably lower--they have the room to move, after all.

Be creative, and pit Benchmade dealers against each other. You can get that price down, particularly if you're buying several.
 
For what it takes to fill my gas tank every month, I can buy a knife that if used and maintained properly will last most of my life.

You tell me. "Is it worth it"??
 
MAP stands for Minimum ADVERTISED Price. Benchmade does not (and cannot) control the actual selling price.

Actual selling price can be considerably lower--they have the room to move, after all.

Be creative, and pit Benchmade dealers against each other. You can get that price down, particularly if you're buying several.

This isn't MAP in question, it's the Unilateral Price Protection. No matter who you are or where you are, you must sell the item at a specific price, period. There is no minimum or maximum allowable advertised price any more, it is what it is, period. For example, do you ever see Chris reeve knives that are on sale for 10 or 20 percent off? No. How about Strider? Maybe other midtechs? Not really.

Source: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...ee-VP-sales-Benchmade?p=13609602#post13609602
 
The majority of the Blue and Black Classes of Benchmade's line seems to retail between $140-200. Pretty standard compared with other major manufacturers -with the exception that Benchmade is entirely USA-made. Obviously, the Griptilians cost more than they did, and do seem high. However, the H&K line is a major dealio that doesn't get mentioned much.

Paying the least possible amount for things is great but don't twist yourself up about it if you are just about to try them out. Others have already mentioned their great CS reputation, free lifetime sharpening, and the possibility of blade replacements.

-Oh, and to make a recommendation, OP, the Stryker line that came out this year is siiiiiick. Try one out. :thumbup:
 
For what it takes to fill my gas tank every month, I can buy a knife that if used and maintained properly will last most of my life.

You tell me. "Is it worth it"??

The majority of the Blue and Black Classes of Benchmade's line seems to retail between $140-200. Pretty standard compared with other major manufacturers -with the exception that Benchmade is entirely USA-made. Obviously, the Griptilians cost more than they did, and do seem high. However, the H&K line is a major dealio that doesn't get mentioned much.

Paying the least possible amount for things is great but don't twist yourself up about it if you are just about to try them out. Others have already mentioned their great CS reputation, free lifetime sharpening, and the possibility of blade replacements.

-Oh, and to make a recommendation, OP, the Stryker line that came out this year is siiiiiick. Try one out. :thumbup:

Well said to both of you. Exactly how I feel now. 3 months ago I didn't feel the same.

Sometimes you have to step back from the painting to see the entire thing instead of closely staring at one spot all the time.
 
I'll continue to buy LE's, especially from places like Knifeworks who seem to have a say in the MSRP of their exclusives (going off the LE tomahawk they have currently), but any of their standard line up I'll buy here or perhaps off of ebay (where prices seem to fluctuate a bit more) I would really like an 940-1, but won't buy one until I find it for $200-210, as thats what its worth IMO. There are also a couple in HK line that I plan on getting since it doesn't seem to be price controlled.
 
Value is certainly somewhat subjective, but I do not think BMs are in the same class of value that they once were.

Still, there are some good-great values. The Contego in M4 and especially M390 are great buys. To me, the materials, design, and extensive G10 machining makes the knife very justifiable even at full retail.

But something like a 710 which I think is an awesome knife I don't think is nearly as good of a value. Likewise, the Grips at full retail are hard to justify given you can almost buy two Delicas for the price or one really high-end Kershaw, or even a ZT0566, which is simply a better overall knife. And I do think the 940-1 is an awesome knife as well...but it's pricing makes it very hard to justify given there are many, many, many makers using the same quality materials and selling their product for a lot less.

Once upon a time I probably purchased 5-10 Benchmades for every other knife I bought. Now I probably buy 5-10 other brands for every Benchmade I buy. Years ago they really were THE brand of hella good value for hella good product. Now KAI and Spyderco really own that title more than Benchmade.

I've noted elsewhere that my biggest complaint with their pricing restructuring is that they bumped the prices the end-user pays tremendously, but did nothing in terms of changing materials. With the current pricing, one often pays more money for a Benchmade than an other brand with more desirable materials. If they upped materials, I'd be able to justify purchasing. But teflon and paint coatings with 154CM and D2 versus tungsten Diamond Like Coatings, ELMAX, S35VN, M390, S110V, CPM-3V, etc., I struggle in justifying the purchase on the latter when the price is the same or greater.

It's a similar issue I have with Emerson knives. I really like many of their designs, but the fact of the matter is other makers are using better materials to deliver a product that is the same or less in terms of pricing. It's hard to justify a $200 154CM folding knife when there were CPM-154 folders for under $100.
 
I really want the Sequel but I just can't seem to drop that much for a knife that is worth $100 at best. I love the design but for the price, I look at my Sage 1 I got for $107, with S30v steel and carbon fiber grips for about $30 less.
 
While they may be worth the current price to some,they've lost my business. Too many better options. Glad I got the one's I like before they jacked the prices up. Lol,real classy picking black Friday to start the price gouge btw.:yawn:
 
I have a mini-barrage that I got with a cabelas gift card which covered half so I paid 55 out of pocket, and honestly I freaking love the thing... I consider it one of my favorites in the drawer.. however if I could get one for what I would consider more reasonable(not expecting "cheap" or anything) I would probably own a couple more.. One would think SOMEONE important at BM monitors threads such as this and would do something about it.. I mean either they are being massively marked up by some places or BM is making hefty profit at these prices and doesn't want to change them.

P.S. I got a saddle mountain hunter... and I absolutely can not wait to unleash it on my first white tail in the fall.. or maybe a turkey..
 
Why do we keep poking a dead horse? Benchmade changed their pricing guidelines...move on...

As mentioned, I know the MAP debate runs deep and I've read 20 + pages of discussion posts, I don't want to open it up in that way. I'm just looking to know, what is are the BM knives that continue to hold high value eg material+cost after the MAP increase, I'm not opposed to going BM if I know it's ahigh value item.
 
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Still worth it:
710

Still awesome, and worth it if you can afford it:
940
950 Rift
746 Mini-Onslaught

Models I don't own which seem worth it:
275 Adamas
810 Contego

Thanks for the helpful post! D2 steel with an axis lock is a very appealing combo for around $150
 
For what it takes to fill my gas tank every month, I can buy a knife that if used and maintained properly will last most of my life.

You tell me. "Is it worth it"??

The majority of the Blue and Black Classes of Benchmade's line seems to retail between $140-200. Pretty standard compared with other major manufacturers -with the exception that Benchmade is entirely USA-made. Obviously, the Griptilians cost more than they did, and do seem high. However, the H&K line is a major dealio that doesn't get mentioned much.

Paying the least possible amount for things is great but don't twist yourself up about it if you are just about to try them out. Others have already mentioned their great CS reputation, free lifetime sharpening, and the possibility of blade replacements.

-Oh, and to make a recommendation, OP, the Stryker line that came out this year is siiiiiick. Try one out. :thumbup:

Well said to both of you. Exactly how I feel now. 3 months ago I didn't feel the same.

Sometimes you have to step back from the painting to see the entire thing instead of closely staring at one spot all the time.

Agreed!

David: I can't agree enough with that sentiment.
 
I really want the Sequel but I just can't seem to drop that much for a knife that is worth $100 at best. I love the design but for the price, I look at my Sage 1 I got for $107, with S30v steel and carbon fiber grips for about $30 less.

The 707 is one of my favorite knives. A few months ago I ponied up the bills and bought the M390 one. I can't say I felt it was a very good value, but it is a very nice knife and BM does really good with their HT of M390. You can sometimes find 707's used for a really good value. If you can, I highly recommend them! (I own like 12 different 705s and 707s)
 
I am thinking about getting a Benchmade 586 w/M390 steel for the M390 steel but dont know much about Benchmade pricing or quality so I am just starting to research that knife and dealers trying to find the best deal on one! It looks like a solid knife but from what I have seen, it is over $100 but I think you should consider it for the steel/blade.

If anyone knows where to get the price or knows about this model (good or bad), please let me know via email. Thx.
 
Benchmades are still good knives, but the new dealer pricing policies means I'm not likely to buy any more from any dealers. They can still be found on the secondary market at good prices.
 
I am thinking about getting a Benchmade 586 w/M390 steel for the M390 steel but dont know much about Benchmade pricing or quality so I am just starting to research that knife and dealers trying to find the best deal on one! It looks like a solid knife but from what I have seen, it is over $100 but I think you should consider it for the steel/blade.

If anyone knows where to get the price or knows about this model (good or bad), please let me know via email. Thx.

The 586 is a really good knife. It's handsome, well-made, has a good fit and finish, feels good in the hand, has kickass AXIS, and a really useful blade grind. And even close to full MSRP pricing, it's a reasonably good buy because the blade steel is a very premium steel and the handle is much nicer than the base model. So to me, the much nicer handle and a blade steel that is a few lightyears ahead makes the knife a pretty good deal and a much better deal than the base model.
 
Yeah theyre overpriced compared to for example US made Spyderco's but the demand is there so thats just how it goes. I like the Axis lock a lot but wish the qc and build quality was a bit better.
 
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