What Buck,What Gun ?

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My son bought me a concealed wepons permit for Dads Day this year and I've ben doing a lot of thinking what would be the perfect combo for CC..I know it will be a Kel-Tec 380 or P-32,now I need to find the smallest, lightest, tactal Buck to go along with it....Mabe a combo sheath/gun holster...Neck Knife/extra clip??? Anyway whats everyones ideal gun/Buck combo for your use ????
 
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Para Ordanance P-12 and a 889....that's 12+1 45ACP's in a sub compact....Sweet. I would not even shoot a stray cat with a 380.

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Kel-tecs are crap and the .380 is too small. You don't carry a cheap knife, don't carry a cheap gun.

If you absolutely must have a tiny, light gun....go with an S&W in an airweight version based on the Model 36.

If you want a serious carry gun, go with the Glock 26, it's the best.

If that seems a little thick for you, the Kahr 9 is a fair alternative, although at that point I myself would go back to the Smith Model 36.

One of these and the Buck de jour will take care of you.

I've been carrying mostly the Mayo HiLo and the Glock 26 for about a year.
 
for the high tech look might i suggest a buck 885.. some one here should have a pict..
 
Phooey! Guns should be made of forged steel, not Tupperware rejects!

I say, this is the proper man's CCW & knife:

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Yep, a S&W 625 Mountain Gun in .45 Colt - with a #408 Kalinga Pro. Now, that's a pocket full!

Of course, being a retired college teacher so well versed in the 'do as I say, not as I do' paradigm, I carry either my S&W 642 Airweight .38 or it's larger sibling, a S&W 296 .44 Special Airlite, space permitting. I usually have my old 301, 503, or a 110 - or some combination - in my pocket, too. I hate having to 'carry', but it's a necessity these days.

My wife even packs - a L.W. Seecamp .32 - and a Kershaw rainbow Chive (Yuck!). She has a 2" 10 (.38) and a Buck in her car, however. Sign of the times? Naw, we're just southern gun & knife nuts... or a combination.

Stainz

PS The 642 Airweight and Seecamp .32, for comparison:

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Both my P32 and P3AT Kelteks work just fine. Have never had a misfire and they are accurate enough for what they are, pocket pistols, that you don't go out and fire hundreds of rounds through just for grins.

I wouldn't ever carry a knife and pistol in the same pocket or holster.


The P3AT is in the right front pocket and the 179 is clipped in the left back pocket.

I have been carrying the 179 edc now for a while and have pretty much evolved to it as my primary. It clips in the back pocket and is easy enough to deploy left handed. I don't want it on the right side so the p3at and wallet get in the way. Its thin enough that I never notice it being in the way.

As far as the p3at in the front right pocket, I also place one of those Swiss Card things that have all the tools in it, between the gun and front side of the pocket so as to eliminate the gun imprint from showing on the outside of the pocket.

Now, by carrying it in the pocket, out of a holster, it is prone to pocket lint. So I turn the pockets out when I put them in the wash.
And I pull it down at least once a month or more, and clean it. It will have some lint and dust on the inside.

Any carry gun should be gone through at least once a month. I actually had one CC instructor have everyone break down their guns and inspect them for clean. Amazingly enough he almost kicked three out of the class.

Guns and knives, so subjective. You gotta do what works for you.

And this can change with the weather. Should it ever get cold enough to wear it, I have a nice leather jacket that will hold a pair of full size 1911's
I stay away from deep puddles of water tho...:o
 
Nothing wrong with the Keltecs, especially the newest ones. The older ones just need to be gone over once with a bit of cleaning and polishing and they function very well. Having siad that, I really like Ruger's new LCP if you are on a budget, and the Walther PPS if you got a little more to spend.
 
The one Kel-Tec [p32] I bought new had 900+ rounds with not one failure to feed or fire with no cleaning, or a fluffn'buff...My son then got it and had no problems....The trouble with anything bigger is its a royal pain and hassel to carry 'comfortabley' concealed 100% of the time..I neaver stuffed it in the glovebox ect...I like the Kel-tec My fav big gun is a Dan Wesson [owned 3] one in 357 Max...It had a 8" vent heavy barrell...I'm thinking of a Harsook [?sp] the little tiny Buck hideout to go with a verry small belt pouch holding one extra 7rd clip... and a wallet holster for the p32..I know a small caliper 32,380, is not as potent but the Kel-Tec is +p rated and with HOT premium ammo ..well...
 
Phooey! Guns should be made of forged steel, not Tupperware rejects!

I say, this is the proper man's CCW & knife:

IMG_0275_edited.jpg


Yep, a S&W 625 Mountain Gun in .45 Colt - with a #408 Kalinga Pro. Now, that's a pocket full!

Of course, being a retired college teacher so well versed in the 'do as I say, not as I do' paradigm, I carry either my S&W 642 Airweight .38 or it's larger sibling, a S&W 296 .44 Special Airlite, space permitting. I usually have my old 301, 503, or a 110 - or some combination - in my pocket, too. I hate having to 'carry', but it's a necessity these days.

My wife even packs - a L.W. Seecamp .32 - and a Kershaw rainbow Chive (Yuck!). She has a 2" 10 (.38) and a Buck in her car, however. Sign of the times? Naw, we're just southern gun & knife nuts... or a combination.

Stainz

PS The 642 Airweight and Seecamp .32, for comparison:

SeecampIMG_0551.jpg

Roc says:

I must say I have a sentimental agreement with your first pair (.44 and Kalinga).

However, in my world of hot days and light clothing, the Glock 26 in the right front pocket of my Cabela's hikers is cool and comfortable. The trick is choosing the right clothing and some of the Cabela's pants and shorts have wonderful big front pockets........not big enough for your .44, unfortunately.

I sure do like the look of it, though. The biggest I can go with is a Smith 686 round butt with a 2 and a half inch barrel with an inside waistband holster.

But the Glock is a lot more practical in terms of size, ammo storage and rounds available and common sense usually prevails over my love of the wheelgun.
 
Whatever you decide to c.c, shot it and become very familiar with it.
When you decide what ammo you want to feed it (semi-auto) run enough of the same loads to be sure the gun will cycle reliably..

Its not cheap burnin through a couple boxes of high quality defensive loads, but you are carrying it to save your or someone else live, can't put a price on that....
Size is a very valid consideration. I carry Glocks and 1911's in an i.w.b holster with just an untucked t-shirt or flannel shirt. You have to be very cautious doing it this way though, because it can easily print against your shirt if not carefull.... And that could make for a very uncomfortable situation if someone sees that you are carrying.
Small frame revolvers are great carry pistols. Simple to use, and for the most part they don't care what kind of ammo you stick in them. When ya pull the trigger its going to go bang. Concealed hammer revolvers can also be easily fired from inside a pocket too..

The KelTek 380 is not that bad of a round, just run Cor-Bon hot loads.
2 shots center of mass, follow with 2 shots to the head and the game will be over shortly. Not an ideal round in winter though when people are wearing multiple layers of clothing.
 
When I was in law enforcement I carried either a S&W model 36 or a High Standard derringer if it was hot and I needed something to stick in my pocket. Later when I was a civilian with a CCW permit, I carried a Glock 23.
 
Here's a little Dou with a BIG SlashBang!!! Light Weight But Serious....
 

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Another point to ponder about the Kel-tec.

Your personal carry weapon may be called upon to save lives......not likely, but yet it could happen. Thus, it should be nothing be the very best. This is not a place to try to save a few bucks.

Almost half the law enforcement agencies in America have standardized on the Glock.

A number of nations use it as their standard military weapon and many police forces worldwide also have it as their standard weapon.

Smith and Wesson has, of course, a history of dominance in law enforcement.

How many police agencies or nations have chosen to go with the Kel-tec?
 
i am not a gun buff ... question i have is on black powder hand gun..
as an antique weapon do you need a carry permit like smokeless powder guns?
LEO's in a town close to here took one from a 19yo's car.. was in case on back seat
said concealed hand gun ... court ordered it returned as not a modern "fire arm" ..
so if it is not a fire arm is it leagle to carry were as a modern one is not with out permit?
BTW should not this thread me moved to another topic forum?
 
so if it is not a fire arm is it leagle to carry were as a modern one is not with out permit?
BTW should not this thread me moved to another topic forum?

When black powder guns are ruled in most states as curios or relics the are often not held to the same sales restrictions, BUT that does not allow you to carry them loaded.
 
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