What do you think of Rough Rider

Gus, clearly, my posts are my words. we have differing opinions. expressing my opinion is not "putting words into my(your) post".
i quoted a statement you made, and then said what that brought to my mind.
this would be hopelessly boring if we all shared the same opinions.
roland
 
Roland like I said I do look at the whole picture. I own a business and consider it my duty to take care of my employees above a profit when necessary.

I also said to each his own. I did take a little umbrage at you using the term "whole picture". My "whole picture" includes stepping back a bit and looking at practices of a business instead of just the view of the knives themselves.

Again to each their own.
 
point being, if you eschew Chinese goods because of poor labour standards, then you are going to spend a great deal more time shopping because it is getting ever harder to find non-Chinese goods.
That is a valid point, but unlike electronics I actually have the choice of buying knives made in a place other than China.
 
Per "I suspect part of the reason the RR and other Chinese knives are so cheap and reliably sharp, is that the Chinese knife factories are technologically far more advanced, using state of the art laser guided machinery, vs. 100 year old equipment in most of the USA knife factories."

That's false. Buck just built a brand new plant. Spyderco's US plant is relatively new. Kershaw's US plant is 100% state of the art per their collarborative custom makers and a Blade article. Lone Wolf's plant is new. GEC and Canal Street are both new. Bladetech is new. Wilson Combat is new. Need I go on?

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I do not approve of bad labor practices at the same time I understand the without money those practices will not change. Money comes from sales and the best money comes from sales to the US. In a perfect world unfair labor would not exist and every country would have equal standards of living, but this is not a perfect world and change takes time. Currently the Chinese are raising the standard of living...pay is increasing and work conditions are inproving but without sales that will end. I see all the imports from China as a way both countries can create revenue. btw...in 2009 China imported 70 billion in goods from the US...this number has shown steady increase of the past several decades.

p.s. None of the shields on my RR's have fallen off.
 
I find it kind of interesting that it is a US company who owns the RR line and certainly one of the largest knife dealers on earth.

Regards

Robin
 
I currently have a few RR, but I have 2 toothpicks they are hard workers. They are used hard almost daily. A few runs on the sharpmaker and there sharp as new. The shields haven't fell off or even come loose. I think there a good bang for the buck. :thumbup:
 
I bought a RR, took it out of the box, looked it over, and put it in a drawer next to 40 other knives, including Case, Queen, Schrade (USA Schrade), Great Eastern, and Northwoods. Every time I opened that drawer the sight of the RR made me feel...well, I ended up taking it out of that drawer because it didn't belong. I will end up giving it away and not buying another.
 
I was suprised and pleased to see so many people like RR knives IMO most chinise made knives are good quality not top quality but are still very good users and easy to sharpen for the price.
 
I considered ordering a couple just to try out traditional patterns that are new to me but the price seems too low(even for PRC made) to get a quality knife plus I like to avoid buying from China when I have the chance.
 
Here are most of my Chinese knives

Clockwise from the top,
RR Tobacco Bone 4" Sunfish
RR Bark Pearl Split Spring Whittler
RR Half Copperhead in Jigged Bone
Boker Huge Congress in Red Jigged Bone
Boker Copperhead " "
RR Sowbelly in Gunstock Bone

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What do I think?
I have said this in other threads about the China knives, I am of the opinion that ALL of the materials used in these knifes are CLEARLY inferior to those used in every USA Slippie I have seen (with the possible exception of some of the Bear and Sons. Those things look like hammered s**t).

The best F&F goes to the RR Sunfish, and the Boker Copperhead. If those two had been made using materials like GEC, or Queen, or Case use they would embarrass all of those brands based on the examples I have owned. Even if using those same materials quadrupled the price of the knives it would be no contest.
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The Bark Pearl Whittler is the only one that is really disappointing. The split-springs are really neat, but the scales, bolsters and liners all fit very poorly with gaps and whatnot all around.

I figured the average price for each those was just under $8 (to my door), with $10.01 being the most paid for any of them.

As for the political aspect.
If these were being made using slave labor I would stop buying them. But in 20-30 years the Chinese will probably squash us like bugs anyway, so I will take advantage of the situation while I can and get in on these "cheap" knives while they last :D.
 
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