What do you use in the woods; the Silver Needle request thread and Mall Ninja's

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My buddy Silver Needle and I were posting on a Survive!Knives thread somewhere here on BF not too long ago. For whatever reason, I mentioned my 'gear' meaning the blades, fire steels, axes. and hatchets I take to the woods and water, and assorted other camping and survival gear. He said I should post what I use and why and I committed to do that so here it is. At least the blades anyway.

On a funny side note, I was perusing the tube and saw some videos about top 10 survival knives and related videos. I found it hilarious that most of the guys were reviewing their gear and for some odd reason, all of it looked brand spanking new. I'm known in my circle of peers, family and friends as the guy who always asks the question, "What did you DO today"?
I'm known as that guy because, despite my age, I'm always "doing" something, whether it's in my shop, or out in the woods, or on (and sometimes IN) the water.

So, here are some of my "TOOLS" that I use in the outdoors and what I use them for and why.

I put the Mall Ninja's in the title because I see of these guys to every one real outdoorsman. Don't get me wrong here, I don't know everything and there is plenty of mountains I can't climb. I'm just saying if you've never been farther than the knife store at the local mall, then don't criticize my ability to start a primitive fire if you've never tried it. Any one who has done it in a real world situation will tell you it gets tough to do, especially in the pouring down rain or a flooded wilderness, or bitter cold. And secondly, if your knives and axes have never been farther than the kitchen table for the youtube video, you should probably accept the criticism you receive when you post your "top 10 survival knives".

There, I said it. :D

On to the good stuff. Pics of USED knives and other tools. Of note; all of the leather, kydex, custom scales, and knife mods were done by me as well as hanging all the axe heads except for the Husqvarna hatchet and the red firehose scales on the necker.

Starting at the top and going left to right in the first pic.

ESEE Junglas and Becker BK13 Remora with custom burlap micarta scales. This is my primary rig when we go primitive. I use the Junglas to chop and baton, build shelter, dig holes, etc. The Becker is my camp knife and striker for the fire steel. YES, it throws enough sparks to start a fire. Great little camp knife too as food is usually minimal on these outings. I normally have a medium folder in my front pocket which is why there is no medium fixed blade in these situations. The Junglas has been well used and is indestructible. I recommend this highly for anyone needing a LARGE blade.

Next is the Survive!Knives GSO 4.1 in M390 and right next to that is the new Survive!Knives SK-4.7 that I've been testing. That is another thread but the SK-4.7 in CruForge V steel, so far is looking to be a tough contender for best all around knife for me. Time and more testing will tell the tale. The GSO 4.1 in M390 has been an excellent hunting knife and the M390 steel when treated by Peters and sharpened by Guy is phenomenal. It's one of the reasons that M390 is my #1 favorite steel right next to the American counterpart CPM-20CV. This is an awesome all around stainless outdoors blade. MY only drawback is that it comes in just a hair too small for a few tasks, hence the 4.7 being tried and tested. I use these as all around camp, hunting, bushcraft, fishing, and survival knives. They both hold a great edge and the 4.1 has been around awhile and is a proven performer from camp chores all the way up to batoning large logs for firewood. It is as tough as nails and a proven performer. Don't let it's beauty fool you. It's a true work horse of a blade.
Next to that you see two smaller neck knives. The first one in the orange kydex is my design. I call it the Hale Storm Alpha. I wanted a small necker size knife with a deep belly in CPM-20CV. After talking it over with my friend, knifemaker Brian Evans over at Evans Knife and Tool, he brought my design to life. Brian made the blade and then sent it to either Peter's or Bos for heat treat and then Jason Wilder of Wilder Forge finished it out for me with the red firehose micarta. Next to that in the camo kydex is one of the very first Dart's that Brian Evans designed and made. He made the finished blade in CPM-20CV for me and I added the Jade Ghost G10 with white liner scales. Both of these knives by Brian are awesome EDC knives and I carry one of them around my neck every day. 7 days a week. 52 weeks a year.

Last on the right is the ESEE Candiru that has been stripped and custom blue and black G10 scales added with white liners. I carry this from time to time at work and the small blade is perfect when the need for a small utility blade is there and this one slips right in and out of the leather sheath for one handed use too. The expertly treated 1095 steel holds an incredible edge for daily cutting and requires minimal touch up to bring back a great working edge.

Right under the Candiru is a standard Victorinox Alox Farmer. I use this around camp on work days and it is indispensable as "pocket tool kit" when fixing and repairing most small things around camp. The only thing more useful would be my Leatherman multitool which is not in the pics but should be (it's in the truck). The Farmer also works great when an EDC is needed around people who seem to get nervous around knives.

And at the bottom is the Husqvarna 19" hatchet, which is actually a Carpenters Axe and not really a hatchet at all. I use this for splitting small logs to make tinder and kindling around camp or for delimbing larger branches when I need poles to make shelter. It works really well for chopping small limbs when making a tripod for a cooking pot or any type of fire making duties. It's lightweight, and holds an incredible edge. Great Swedish steel and American hickory for around 50 bucks.

If anyone finds this interesting, please post pics of what you use and why. I'll post more tomorrow and finish up on the axes, and also more knives. Work comes early in the morning.
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For a machete I like to use a wwii corpsmans knife. For hatchet I use surprisingly a bear grylls hatchet. It's thin and nice tho batonning perpendicular to the grain of wood left the soft steel back of it really beat up. I haven't gone too primitive cuz I'm in high school so camping my parents bring brothers too. For knife I use a delica or the knife I handmade out of a worn out Nicholson file that was my grandpas. I keep a lestherman wave in my bag. I start fire with normally a Vaseline soaked cotton ball and magnesium fire starter kit thing from harbor frieght.


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Hi! Nice set of gear you have :thumbup:. Thanks for sharing, enjoyed this post. Today I’m just a week-end hiker :). What I use mostly as fix blade in the woods it’s the F1. The X5 is my hiking axe, it’s compact and light enough for my taste, it always finds a place in the rucksack. Generally nowadays, for my types of hikes (i.e.: walks in the woods or easy mountain hiking), I find that any of my folders and the SOG/FOX PowerAssist multitool are serving me well. Our “camp chores” in reality are limited to the setting up of a small camp fire (more for fun or for the occasional sausages grilling than everything else :)) and the occasional setting up of a tarp (mainly in case of unexpected rain). As far as fire, I carry a couple of BIC lighters and the long matches, which are good also as supplementary tinder and kindling.

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Well, most recently I took a Fiddleback Hiking Buddy to a cabin and started a fire using it, a store bought firestarter and a lighter. Worked very fast and lit up great.

I practice some primitive fire skills, but that's for fun. If I want a fire now, I use the quickest, most effective method available. Particularly if it's already dark.
 
Great thread! I don't check in in this part of the forum so I'm glad a little bird directed me over here!

Very nice custom work in it's various forms. I especially like those kydex axe sheaths :thumbup:

I have to go cheap on axes to support my unhealthy knife addiction. These are two of my favorites.
 
When I go to the woods I bring a Vic One Hand Trekker, gerber moment full tang knife and a hatchet. Sometimes instead of the hatchet I bring a SOG fast hawk

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Why would you dig a hole with an ESEE Junglas?

As I said in my original post, this is sometimes my only rig when we go primitive. The Junglas is the be all do all tool.

Lots of reasons to dig a hole too. In predator country you don't want human feces or animal remnants (from meals) attracting unwanted guests to camp. Best to bury what you can't eat (hide, teeth, bones, etc.) and the other stuff. :D

In shelter building with only a large and small knife, the holes are dug to anchor poles for shelter building. The large knife acts as a shovel.

In windy conditions sometimes it is easier to start a fire (and keep one going) in a fire pit in the ground. In the absence of logs and large rocks to make a windbreak or build a hearth, the hole is the next best thing.
 
Tbh, a lot of your gear looks very new.

Hmmmm. Lets see if I can explain. Don't confuse "used but maintained and cared for" for "new never used". My tools are tools and I use them as such. I also have respect for them and take care of them when the adventure or job is over.

AXES: Most of the axes are older than I am. They were either my fathers or my grandfathers. Each June, I treat all of my axes and check them out since I use them more in the summer down here than in the winter. The handles were just sanded and 3 coats of BLO applied to the large double bit.
The small cruiser double bit head is about 40 years or more old and I just restored it (vinegar bath and regrind) and hung it on a new handle.
The large double is getting to heavy to lug around so I built the cruiser.
The single bit felling axe and the Fiskars splitter see the most use as you can tell. Neither are new nor do they look new. I do need to clean up that single bit a little. Thanks for reminding me. The heads were checked for tightness and cleaned with steel wool and resharpened. I also coat the heads with Militec One and just let them sit with the film on them. I check the leather sheaths and add a coat of "snow proof" annually as well. The Husqvarna hatchet is a couple years old but it just got cleaned up, sanded, oiled, and sharpened too.

KNIVES: The BK2 and the Schrade were gifts from my sons for Birthday and Fathers Day (I have AWESOME sons!!!). I pimped out the BK2 and did all the custom work to it myself. It has been used mainly on gutting and field dressing large pigs. I have batoned with a few times as well. It is a beast of a blade so even though I beat the hell out of it, it doesn't really show the use like the others. If you could see the spine of the Schrade, you'd see that it was bent a little. I beat the hell out of it batoning logs in camp that were probably too big for that long thin blade. I wanted to test the blade and see if it would hold up to hard use. The coating started coming off and the knife bent ever so slightly at the tang but it held an edge very well (no chipping or rolling which surprised the hell outta me) and after a quick sharpening was back in service even after batoning through some very large oak logs.
The ESEE 4 is my youngest sons dedicated hunting knife and has only been used for cleaning and skinning whitetails and hogs. He takes meticulous care of his knife so other than resharpening, it looks new but has actually cleaned and butchered a dozen or more animals.
The Survive!Knives SK-4.7 was just sent to me by Guy and Ellie over at Survive!Knives to test. Even though it is new I have already begun that testing and there are some pics of heavy use in the Survive!Knives thread. Batoning and scraping fire steel for fire. Covered in blood from cleaning some fish for dinner. Well used for only a week or two old. More to come on this one.
The Junglas. LOL. She was a beauty when she was new. 3 years of digging holes, batoning all the kindling in deer camp, and chopping too many trees and logs to count. That finish has held up better than any knife I've ever used. You can see the wear in the middle of the blade and the oil and dirt (and a little skin and blood) in the micarta handles.
Last in that pic is the Survive!Knives GSO 4.1. This is one of the originals in M390. I have used this knife the most and it rides on my hip almost every time I hit camp. It has been my go to blade for a while and the only one that might replace it is the SK-4.7 but that remains to be seen. Guy has excellent fit and finish and top notch materials so the abuse I've done to her does not show. She is one tough blade.
The neckers are for daily carry and when I say that I mean I have one on 7 days a week. They are small blades and both are used every day. They don't show the use since they are not hard use knives. I believe Brian made the Dart for me 2014, and the Hale Storm Alpha was done in early 2015. Hardly new, just well taken care of.
Take another look at the ESEE Candiru. It's about to be retired. The leather sheath is brand new and I did that about a week or so ago. The blade I have had for almost 5 years now (another gift from my sons) I used it and sharpened it so much that the coating was wearing off so I stripped it, made the custom blue/black G10 scales for it and then kept right on going. Great little edc or small camp blade. Last is the Vic Farmer. This is used but is least used of all the knives I own. It just always comes in handy at the right moment. Whether the screw driver is needed for quick repair on equipment or the saw is needed to cut some notches around camp or the trails. It's just not used a lot but is used at the right moments.

Fire Steels : As you can see, I make my own. All of them are made from antlers from deer that I've killed in the past. You can also see that all of them have been used for fire starting and are quite worn down.

Flashlight: The small Fenix EO1. Not real bright but it lasts a long time. I carry it on my sheaths now but you can tell by the wear on the coating that it has seen a bit of pocket time. I actually bought this used from a member here. I also carry a Fenix EO5 in my pocket when around camp or in the woods. The opposite of the O1 it is very bright but has a short run time.

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Hi! Nice set of gear you have :thumbup:. Thanks for sharing, enjoyed this post. Today I’m just a week-end hiker :). What I use mostly as fix blade in the woods it’s the F1. The X5 is my hiking axe, it’s compact and light enough for my taste, it always finds a place in the rucksack. Generally nowadays, for my types of hikes (i.e.: walks in the woods or easy mountain hiking), I find that any of my folders and the SOG/FOX PowerAssist multitool are serving me well. Our “camp chores” in reality are limited to the setting up of a small camp fire (more for fun or for the occasional sausages grilling than everything else :)) and the occasional setting up of a tarp (mainly in case of unexpected rain). As far as fire, I carry a couple of BIC lighters and the long matches, which are good also as supplementary tinder and kindling.

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I love the F1. My cousin has one and he builds custom kydex for it too. Great knife. Oh, and the bic lighter is a mainstay in my bags and packs. I build fires with the fire steel because I WANT to and know how to do it in case I NEED to. I never thought of the fireplace matches. What a great idea.
 
It does,at some point the wood handles will wear just from hand oils and use,the tools are there,just need some use,fun out
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Correct. Until you clean them, sand them down a little and reapply some BLO.
 
Great thread! I don't check in in this part of the forum so I'm glad a little bird directed me over here!

Very nice custom work in it's various forms. I especially like those kydex axe sheaths :thumbup:

I have to go cheap on axes to support my unhealthy knife addiction. These are two of my favorites.

Thanks for the compliments on my work. I'm an amateur by any standard but love doing it. Shop time is very therapeutic in some ways.
That Survive!Knives GSO 5.0 and the Fiskars X7 can handle a ton of chores in the woods. What and incredible combo. I own the X7 as well and I just recently started using the Husqvarna 19" since it's a little longer handle and gives me more power.
 
When I go to the woods I bring a Vic One Hand Trekker, gerber moment full tang knife and a hatchet. Sometimes instead of the hatchet I bring a SOG fast hawk

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I'd love to see more pics of that hatchet. Looks interesting.

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For the last couple of years or so I've been using a Martin knife in the woods. Camping chores, cooking, building a lean to, ect. I usually carry a ESEE fire steel, and my old Gi mess kit to cook in. Usually pack in with a camelback tri zip and a hennesy hammock. Between the Martin, a folder and multitool there isn't a lot that I can't do in the woods. Depending mainly on deadfall for wood for fires.

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I mostly do day hikes, but have the equipment to do car camping and one/two day and night back pack type hikes. I have no interest in hiking the length of the AT. In the woods, I seldom carry any more than one fixed blade (currently BK-15, Dozier Pro Wildlife knife, or Blackjack 125), a folder (often a SAK), and sometimes my Silky saw. I keep my BK-2 just to remind myself what I don't like. If I am chopping or intend to, either a regular machete (Condor El Salvador) or a shorter stiff one like the Condor Pack Golok or Village Parang gets taken.

Deer hunting, usually a traditional folder and more recently the Spyderco Moran drop point. The fixed blade changes. I add a machete during scouting missions. But deer hunting does not have the appeal any more it used to due to leases and so forth. I do not like to pay to hunt.
 
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