What ever happened to the real knives!?!?!

Buy a Busse

They'll do more than your willng to put em through.

Best part is that you know you can in a pinch. When you don't have your tool belt while your hunting, fishing,camping etc.

Why not just tie pie pans to your butt:D:D:D

atleast not folks I hunt with:eek::thumbup:

Die Hard Hog
 
dd61999 said:
I see to many people spitting out the same internet mantra "use the right tool for the job.......", "A knife was meant for cutting......", "its not a prybar or a screwdriver...." and so on and so on.

But I am sorry but I miss the old days as kids that a knife was a prybar, screwdriver, cutting device, awl, etc. etc........ or the same way Marines used ka-bars as entrenchment tools in World War 2.

It was the original multi -tool and I am not talking about a swiss army knife either.

Many of you guys can have your "specialized tools", I on the other hand want what captivated me about a knife during my youth.

Am I the only one?
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Try a Busse, You'll like it and never have to buy another unless you want to. ;)
 
Check out http://www.knifetests.com/. You won't believe the stuff this guys does with a knife. Much of it is way beyond what any of us would dream of doing with a knife, but if you want a knife that is damn near indestructable it is a good place to look. Check out the Scrapyard Scrapper 6 test... really unbelievable. Scrapyard knives are of the Busse family, but much less expensive than Busse. http://www.scrapyardknives.com/
 
oldfogey said:
You might be the only one, because I'm almost six decades old, and I've carried a pocket knife for five of those decades...........and I can still remember my Grandpa telling me to "use a knife for what a knife is meant for". I was told if you pry with it, you will break the tip........which invariably happens.
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Make that 2 of us. I come from several generations of Midwestern farmers, and they wouldn't consider paying more than probably $10 for a knife, and abuse them regularly, and get another. They are in their mid 70's to uppers 80's. My father in law is a retired machinist close to 70, and he is the first to ask for my knife to pry out staples, cut wire, etc.

These people all view knives as very disposable tools. And I don't lend them my knives.... :D
 
dd61999 said:
I see to many people spitting out the same internet mantra "use the right tool for the job.......", "A knife was meant for cutting......", "its not a prybar or a screwdriver...." and so on and so on.

But I am sorry but I miss the old days as kids that a knife was a prybar, screwdriver, cutting device, awl, etc. etc........ or the same way Marines used ka-bars as entrenchment tools in World War 2.

It was the original multi -tool and I am not talking about a swiss army knife either.

Many of you guys can have your "specialized tools", I on the other hand want what captivated me about a knife during my youth.

Am I the only one?
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You can use a knife any way you want. There are plenty of strong knives on the market. It is just that some of us have learned through experience that it is foolish to use a knife in a way that may well damage it.

You may also find that using a knife as a screwdriver or prybar isn't as efficient as using a real screwdriver or prybar.
 
Check a Busse out, I don't think you will break it but if you do they'll replace it.

If you don't like it you can sell it on the exchange as used and get most of your money back. Or buy a used one to start with.

Go for a thick one, sounds right up your alley.

BTW- you sure do sound like a Busse kind of guy:thumbup:
 
Just another Busse/Swamp Rat /Scrap Yard customer who hasn't quite found his way yet. Don't worry, we're saving you a seat and some Kool-aid over at the Busse forum.

And for all the amateur anthropologists, I guess this answers the question of nature vs. nurture- it appears Busse lovers are born not made!

But seriously, sure most knives won't last long as prybars, etc. but if you CAN have a knife that you can do anything you want with, why not?
 
sodak said:
Make that 2 of us. I come from several generations of Midwestern farmers, and they wouldn't consider paying more than probably $10 for a knife, and abuse them regularly, and get another. They are in their mid 70's to uppers 80's. My father in law is a retired machinist close to 70, and he is the first to ask for my knife to pry out staples, cut wire, etc.

These people all view knives as very disposable tools. And I don't lend them my knives.... :D
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My Grandpa is the same way. He grew up in the depression, and as a result, he is very conservative (no, not the political definition;)) He buys almost nothing for himself that he doesn't absolutely need. Anything he needs a knife for, he uses one of his three slipjoints (a Buck 305, and two Schrade Old Timers). None of them has a very sharp edge, as they are used quite a bit as scrapers. Whenever one of them is "worn out," he gets another of the same make and model to replace it. The upside to this is that I get all his old knives to practice freehand sharpening on.:)

I suggest Ranger Knives as another much less expensive alternative to Busse knives for the OP.:cool:
 
dd61999 said:
I see to many people spitting out the same internet mantra "use the right tool for the job.......", "A knife was meant for cutting......", "its not a prybar or a screwdriver...." and so on and so on.

But I am sorry but I miss the old days as kids that a knife was a prybar, screwdriver, cutting device, awl, etc. etc........ or the same way Marines used ka-bars as entrenchment tools in World War 2.

It was the original multi -tool and I am not talking about a swiss army knife either.

Many of you guys can have your "specialized tools", I on the other hand want what captivated me about a knife during my youth.

Am I the only one?
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Real Knives still exist. You just have to know where to look. Busse Combat produces some of the best blades in the industry. They also make great prybars.. :thumbup:
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Thats where the SAK rules, it is actually made for most of those tasks. Prying is not a strong point of the SAK but in a pinch it works. My Dad taught me the same thing about using the right tool and even more, TAKE CARE of your tools. It guess as someone else said, EVOLUTION.
 
oldfogey said:
You might be the only one, . . . I was told if you pry with it, you will break the tip........which invariably happens.
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(Edits mine) Which I did (break the tip, that is.) I had the embarrassing experience of being told by three different people NOT to use my little Case knife to dig a bullet out of a tree. I did. The tip broke. Pissed off my dad, BIG TIME. He let me keep the knife. He made me keep the blade tip, too, as a reminder.

thx - cpr
 
orca8589 said:
(Edits mine) Which I did (break the tip, that is.) I had the embarrassing experience of being told by three different people NOT to use my little Case knife to dig a bullet out of a tree. I did. The tip broke. Pissed off my dad, BIG TIME. He let me keep the knife. He made me keep the blade tip, too, as a reminder.

thx - cpr
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Breakin' that tippy thang off makes it a better screwdriver, tho. :D 'Ceptin if ya use them newfangled fillups screws.
 
The Good Old Days, when a good knife could be used for most anything without damage, is a myth. Good knives are not terribly better and certainly no worse than they ever were. Even the hype has not changed much if you read the old ads:D. Regards, ss.
 
you should use a tool within the limits of its abilities, unless you have more of them handy and can afford to break one by using it outside of its abilities.

some knives you can pry with without threat of breaking them, others will be guaranteed to break upon even the slightest lateral torquing.

what you speak of isn't necessarily a matter of whether the knife is "real" or not, it's how the user viewed the abilities and value of their knife as a tool. many do not trust their knives to be able to handle many of the tasks you speak of because they have either tested it before and the knife failed, or the assume that it will fail.

you post indicates two separate questions, "what ever happened to real knives?" and "what ever happened to real knife users?". both still exist, this is just the internet. you are at the whim of the temporarily present masses. sometimes you get all of one side, sometimes all of the other.


theres the classic bladeforums line of conversation:
"Why in gods name are you using a knife to bust op concrete? thats not what a knife is for."
"the knife won't get damaged by it, as I've done it before and trust it to do the job."
"a prybar is better."
"I didn't have a prybar."
"you should have brought one then."
"I'm not carrying a prybar on top of all the other crap I carry"
"...
KNIVES ARE NOT PRYBARS!!"
 
dd61999 said:
I see to many people spitting out the same internet mantra "use the right tool for the job.......", "A knife was meant for cutting......", "its not a prybar or a screwdriver...." and so on and so on.

But I am sorry but I miss the old days as kids that a knife was a prybar, screwdriver, cutting device, awl, etc. etc........ or the same way Marines used ka-bars as entrenchment tools in World War 2.

It was the original multi -tool and I am not talking about a swiss army knife either.

Many of you guys can have your "specialized tools", I on the other hand want what captivated me about a knife during my youth.

Am I the only one?
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On the one hand, you "can" use a knife as a screwdriver or shovel. Just be prepared for some changes in condition as a result of such use. Most knives are way too hard/way too thin in the edge to survive unchanged.

On another level, myths are quite captivating. That's why myths are common to all cultures. We have myths here. Never heard yours, however. I kept hearing what everyone else here heard: "It's not a screwdriver!!!!!"

Get a knife made of 1/4" of leaf spring steel, such as 5160, and abuse the heck outa' it. Shouldn't cost $hundreds. Visit the local junk yard (the for real junk yard) and get the material to make your own. Abuse it. Grind out the chips and carry on.
 
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