What Genre of knives is on its way up.....and what's on its way down ? :)

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This should make for some interesting conversation :)

What genre of knife is gaining momentum and what genre is losing it ?

This should ruffle some feathers and make for some interesting conversation to boot

I know the answer :)

I will wait a bit to voice my opinion
 
Joe, when you factor the generational aspect of product consumption into your "formula", might you agree that one genre of knife consumption is rising, while another genre is remaining somewhat steady, not on a fast but rather a gradual, sometimes hardly perceptible decline, not at all thriving, but perhaps only appearing to be on a faster decline primarily because of the greater increase in consumption attributable to the generational aspect?

I'm not asking you to reveal you specific thoughts any more than I intend to reveal mine at this point, especially given that there are more than two genres of knives.

Bob
 
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Joe, when you factor the generational aspect of product consumption into your "formula", might you agree that one genre of knife consumption is rising, while another genre is remaining somewhat steady, not on a fast but rather a gradual, sometimes hardly perceptible decline, not at all thriving, but perhaps only appearing to be on a faster decline primarily because of the increase in consumption attributable to the generational aspect?

I'm not asking you to reveal you specific thoughts any more than I intend to reveal mine at this point.

Bob

How are you my friend

You are always thinking :)

Let's compare it to the muscle car craze and its decline

Now certain muscle cars will always be in demand and have value but in general the genre has suffered a great decline

Baby boomers wanted what they could not have when they were young so for a time period the market was hot

Now these folks are done collecting to a certain extent and even liquidating their collections

The new younger crowd buying cars does not dream of the muscle cars of our era and are on to different cars

I have a warehouse that was like muscle car central

It had a very famous engine builder, a custom fab shop and a very large collection stored in it

There was not a day that you would not see a Super Bee etc there getting work done. Sure there are certain cars that will always attract big money but on a whole the market is down

Today's collectors are on to something else and yesterday's collectors are dying off

Today's youth looks at a 69 camera and goes why ?

Same goes for the vintage snowmobile and bike market

What attracted yesterday's buyers is not attracting today's

This goes for all things including the knife world
 
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I see the Phill Hartsfield style genre of Jpz. blades resurging, as evidenced by Ben Tendick, Matt Gregory, Josh Mason and
several others whose names escape me currently.

Personally, I will never cease to buy ABS Bowies/Fighters, no matter if they are declining in popularity. :)

Like Les used to say, "Buy What You Like Buyers". :D

Doug
 
i have only been to a handfull of knife shows, but i noticed folding knives outsell fixed blades by a huge margin. maybe that has always been the case. i only make fixed blades :rolleyes:
 
It's always an ebb and flow. The demand for muscle cars you used as an example has been affected in multiple ways, much like the knife market. It was insanely inflated during the late 90's and early 2000's, before the crash, and it certainly suffered a set back but it's far from a dead market (well maybe muscle cars, but not classic cars in general). Of course, it changes with the times also. Models that were less sought after have become more so, and things like vintage trucks and SUVs are making a huge showing. The market for old Jeep Wagoneers and J-trucks has gotten insane compared to it's relative non-existance a handful of years ago, but there's more of a trend toward doing modern engine swaps with higher efficiency, than building the old V8's to high power potential.

Diesel swaps in all types of vintage cars are common place now, when they used to be pretty rare from my perspective.


My point to all this is, it's normal for markets to evolve. Anything that reaches huge popularity levels, is bound to fall off, or re-orient. It's been pretty apparent with all trends, and I'm sure we all have seen which types of knives have peaked in the past decade. On the other hand, from my perspective, other types of knives, like fine slipjoints, seem to be enjoying renewed enthusiasm. Or maybe that's just what I tell myself since that's mostly what I'm interested in making anymore. ;)

It's an interesting subject to consider, I remember 5 or 6 years ago where every conversation I'd have with another maker would eventually end up with "we need to start making more kitchen knives" etc., but that area feels pretty saturated to me now, and I'm glad I didn't move into it. I make a few, but mostly for fun. On the other hand, the tactical folder market, which I believe was hugely oversaturated, is bringing new people to the fine folder market, as their tastes evolve.
 
Personally, I will never cease to buy ABS Bowies/Fighters, no matter if they are declining in popularity. :)

Like Les used to say, "Buy What You Like Buyers". :D

Doug

Let's agree on this part that it's probably a push, if the population of buyers is just you and me, Doug, 'cause I'll probably never start to buy ABS Bowies/Fighters, even if they become even more popular.:D;)

----except maybe for Sam Lurquin's, David Broadwell's, Don Hanson's, Jerry Fisk's, Mikey's......let's see, who else???
 
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I've noticed an uptick in the number of kwaikens for some reason, Joe. :D

Thanks James and it would be nice to think that one person could effect a trend in what is popular but in reality what we have hear is a small community and it only shadows to a small degree what is really going on in the knife world but I'll gladly except your prop's and I'm glad I could help out in making such a great design and makers a bit more popular .....at least around here anyway :)
 
ABS style picked up quite a bit around here because of the visit the Derosiers did last year.
Good deal.
 
Erik

A maker like you is a great gift to the ABS

A young dynamic couple like Adam and Haley is exactly what the ABS needs and it's funny that on their web site their was not even a shout out when they were stricken with tragedy

Sad
 
Erik

A maker like you is a great gift to the ABS

A young dynamic couple like Adam and Haley is exactly what the ABS needs and it's funny that on their web site their was not even a shout out when they were stricken with tragedy

Sad

Joe, it is sad. But they sure got a bunch of help from this community!
 
So, ABS style declining & Tactical style on the increase? If this is the case, it's not really 'new' news.

Spill the beans Joe...
 
Thanks James and it would be nice to think that one person could effect a trend in what is popular but in reality what we have hear is a small community and it only shadows to a small degree what is really going on in the knife world but I'll gladly except your prop's and I'm glad I could help out in making such a great design and makers a bit more popular .....at least around here anyway :)

Hey Joe, you make a good point as sometimes I believe we (myself included) get caught up in thinking we are the custom knife community when we are only a cog on a big wheel.
I find there's many collectors who don't frequent forums.
 
Hey Joe, you make a good point as sometimes I believe we (myself included) get caught up in thinking we are the custom knife community when we are only a cog on a big wheel.
I find there's many collectors who don't frequent forums.

Yes Kevin, many!
 
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