What happened to CRK???

[jill jackson]

Wasnt this After the Cold Steel spine whack test was performed?

I just watched the weight hang. They may whack the spines in some other video.

 

[NJBillK]

I just watched the weight hang. They may whack the spines in some other video.

Ok, I thought I saw one where they did both tests, hang after spine whack.
I will see if I can locate it.

 

[palonej]

SS!!!!! You're a hero!!

When I'm taking down perps at the mall, I'll typically open my folding knives and whack said perps on the temple with the spine, thus rendering them unconscious.

 

[palonej]

Come on William!! You should know this stuff by now!!

Whack perps, smash spies, got it.

 

[evilgreg]

Wasnt this After the Cold Steel spine whack test was performed?

On one, yes, but then Demko pulled a second new Sebbie from a box and hung a weight from it and it failed at the same weight, IIRC.

 

[JupiterPaladin]

Ok so I think I missed something, but, did somebody say that CRK under the wife's lead is using washers instead of bearings... To save money??? WTF that's just plain sad. Add the $7 to the price, don't lower the bar on quality! I would feel cheated if I ponied up the cash for a Sebenza just to find washers hiding inside

 

[gmorel1916]

Ok so I think I missed something, but, did somebody say that CRK under the wife's lead is using washers instead of bearings... To save money??? WTF that's just plain sad. Add the $7 to the price, don't lower the bar on quality! I would feel cheated if I ponied up the cash for a Sebenza just to find washers hiding inside

Sebenzas have always been on washers

 

[halden.doerge]

Ok so I think I missed something, but, did somebody say that CRK under the wife's lead is using washers instead of bearings... To save money??? WTF that's just plain sad. Add the $7 to the price, don't lower the bar on quality! I would feel cheated if I ponied up the cash for a Sebenza just to find washers hiding inside

Wow, this is a real winner for dumb comments.

 

[brancron]

Ok so I think I missed something, but, did somebody say that CRK under the wife's lead is using washers instead of bearings... To save money??? WTF that's just plain sad. Add the $7 to the price, don't lower the bar on quality! I would feel cheated if I ponied up the cash for a Sebenza just to find washers hiding inside

I'm having trouble figuring out whether this is a serious comment or not, but CRK has always used washers and will probably always use washers, because they are simply better than bearings (on a non-flipping knife) in every conceivable way. And no, nobody said that they're using washers instead of bearings "to save money." I'm not sure where you got that.

 

[JupiterPaladin]

Sebenzas have always been on washers

Sorry, that's why I asked. It sounded like somebody suggested they were killing a legend over a few bucks! Thanks!

 

[Peter Hartwig]

Ok so I think I missed something, but, did somebody say that CRK under the wife's lead is using washers instead of bearings... To save money??? WTF that's just plain sad. Add the $7 to the price, don't lower the bar on quality! I would feel cheated if I ponied up the cash for a Sebenza just to find washers hiding inside

What he said was he liked the original solid washers better then todays perforated washers. They were originally solid, then with holes, and then mostly hole. The idea being to trap the grease in the hole area. All of this was under Chris's design.
The negative is that there is less metal, so they are more prone to damage when handling-or some may feel they are more prone. I have no stats on old vs new washer replacement due to damage.
But not to save money.

I see below I guessed the wrong post he was referencing-Oh well

 

[Nautique]

Wow, this is a really winner for dumb comments.

E for effort.

 

[JupiterPaladin]

Actually I misread another fella talking about his Sebenza not being as smooth as bearings, I must have interpreted that wrongly assuming they had bearings but switched. To be fair I started my post with the question if I was getting that right in the first place. I'll take my E for effort any day

 

[vwb563]

What he said was he liked the original solid washers better then todays perforated washers. They were originally solid, then with holes, and then mostly hole. The idea being to trap the grease in the hole area. All of this was under Chris's design.
The negative is that there is less metal, so they are more prone to damage when handling-or some may feel they are more prone. I have no stats on old vs new washer replacement due to damage.
But not to save money.

Their perforated washers were Chris's design to my understanding and are much better than the solid ones. With the solid ones most of the grease was squeezed out of the pivot during the tightening of the pivot screw. The perforated ones retain the grease.

 

[Mo2]

These are still just mass produced knives. /end.

 

[RevDevil]

These are still just mass produced knives. /end.

There is little more to it than that,. Unfortunately it cannot be reduced to a single incomplete phrase.

 

[T. Erdelyi]

It wasn't a spine whack test. Cold Steel hung a weight of 45 pounds on two Sebenzas and neither held .

When I'm taking down perps at the mall, I'll typically open my folding knives and whack said perps on the temple with the spine, thus rendering them unconscious.

Spine Whacking. For those times when stabbing them would just be overkill and look for new spine whack lite. Half the spine and twice the whack.

Ok so I think I missed something, but, did somebody say that CRK under the wife's lead is using washers instead of bearings... To save money??? WTF that's just plain sad. Add the $7 to the price, don't lower the bar on quality! I would feel cheated if I ponied up the cash for a Sebenza just to find washers hiding inside

There's a difference between missing something and making an uninformed comment on the goings on in a knife company that's had a reputation of setting the bar for what a quality edc folder is. That's the second time you've you've acted without thinking today, the other was resurrecting a 15 year old thread that the OP only posted once and never again.

 

[T. Erdelyi]

I'm sure there are examples where after the principal who started a business and pioneered new production and QC methods has left and the company continued to go on and improve , setting new standards and benchmarks. I just can't think of any right now. Chris has been outta control for a while now, he handed the reins over and had plans to get back into what he enjoyed, designing and making knives again. I don't know if anyone had mentioned that Chris had a major health issue at the end of last year/beginning of this year which has kept him from doing any work.

If you're concerned about the quality of the current crop of CRK blades, continue to contact Customer Service and speak with your dollars. Anne and son wanna make money but I seriously doubt they have the same passion for the product. An era may have passed, I hate to say it but the older Sebenzas are gonna sky rocket. Buy 'em while you can.

 

[JupiterPaladin]

Spine Whacking. For those times when stabbing them would just be overkill and look for new spine whack lite. Half the spine and twice the whack.



There's a difference between missing something and making an uninformed comment on the goings on in a knife company that's had a reputation of setting the bar for what a quality edc folder is. That's the second time you've you've acted without thinking today, the other was resurrecting a 15 year old thread that the OP only posted once and never again.

I wasn't aware of the 15 year old post. Been having issues getting constantly logged off I probably sorted by date in reverse without realizing. I've already explained my misinterpretation of the bearing thing and was clearly asking what I missed.

 

[augustus88]

I have a thread in the crk subforum that showed my issues before Photobucket took a turn for the worse.

But.......I had purchased a brand new inkosi the beginning of this year from KA and upon receiving it, the tip was burned up and the grind was so uneven it was hard to believe. The grind on my 19$ Ontario rat was flawless but the 400+$ crk was messed up from the factory.

This was the first crk that I ever had an issue with.

I received the knife at my doorstep less than 12 days after it was made at ARK/CRK

I ended up sending it in to ARK and, I will have to look, but if I remember right, it took a month to get back.

I was really frustrated with the whole situation...... Bought a new knife, it was messed up and then had to wait a month to get it back.

With all that said........They fixed the grind, I actually talked to Matt Reeve a few times, and I still have the knife now. But things are definitely different from when I first started buying crk's.

I will try to get some pictures up if you guys want.

I had a similar experience with a brand new Regular Sebenza 21 purchased in January of 2016 from a very reputable online dealer. The knife developed horrible lock stick a couple of days after the purchase. They said it had a defective lock face. I returned the knife to CRK for repairs and it took just shy of SEVEN weeks to get it back. It was perfect afterwards, but seven weeks?!?! My first CRK purchase and first $400 knife and I had it in my possession for two out of the first 50 days of ownership! Why the hell didn't CRK just send me a new knife?

That was my first and last CRK purchase!

In contrast, I had a problem with my Copper Southern Grind Spider Monkey right out of the box. They sent me a replacement via next day shipping with no proof of purchase from me. All they asked was that I ship the bad knife back to them after receiving the replacement. The next day they called to ask me if the new knife met my expectations. It was perfect! That's how you do customer service!

My Sebenza 21 experience was not pleasant and waiting seven weeks for them to repair a factory defective knife was NOT ACCEPTABLE! CRK knew this was my first ever Sebenza. Why risk losing a new customer? Makes no sense!