What happened to Snow and Nealley?

In the end, with a little prodding, which some apparently interpret as rudeness, a bit of clarity is reached and a response, reasoned, straight forward and above all honest emerges. Thanks Bill. I take it as completely normal the opinions are expressed, that differences and even misunderstandings are encountered and that the debate or discussion moves on. I don't think attempts at censorship or exclusion are normal, more an indication of an over dependence on "emotiocons" in this case.

E.DB.
 
A bump to this thread to say that I went to the Common Ground Fair today and had a good time chatting with the new owner. After just chewing the fat for a bit I discreetly asked about the "situation with the heads" and figured I'd pass along the intel. He was saying first and foremost that there was a lot of confusion out there regarding how things were (and are being, at the moment) done with the foreign heads. He was telling me that only the rough-forgings of the heads were contracted to a Chinese forge, but that all of the finish grinding, heat treatment, and edge grinding was still done in-house. They're working on switching things over to US production and it'll probably be a gradual shift, model by model. They're working with a forging firm right now that they seem to have very high confidence in (and it's not Council, if anyone's throwing around guesses--I asked) and they hope to have their first all-USA model out sometime next year.
 
You and I think alike! I talked with them too, and I threw out the idea of cruisers, connecticuts, and jersey pattern axes. I don't think there's much of a chance of them doing that, but maybe someday.
 
Most products are thought of a few years in advance, so you never know! Business time and real time move at different rates.
 
You misunderstand cooperhill, no ill intent was ever intended especially in the direction of square peg, quite the opposite and sorry if that wasn't clear. But truly, what is being brought up here? Is it that due to less transportation involved these axes will now be more environmentally friendly for US customers? If on the other hand there is an assertion that simply moving production from China to the USA will somehow have an effect in and of itself on the quality of these axes this is simply fantasy and that ought to be understood.
If it's heavy discussion you look for head on over and join in on the pornography thread started by the bearhunter.

E.DB.

You make a valid point that a shift in locations may not effect the quality. But many are hoping that it will. I am encouraged that it's not Council tool, though it could be worse.
 
As of Feb 2020, no axe is forged in the US. The exception is a forge with an USFS contract. Not available to the public. I know this because I'm in the process of reviving a classic popular brand.
Collins is made in Mexico by Truper. CRKT come from China. SOG from Taiwan. And the list goes on. A true MADE IN THE USA axe is on the way. It's a long process. 2021 is the expected introduction.
Even the axe review web sites cant do some simple fact checking. With the exception of the one forge and custom forges, NONE are made in the USA.
 
As of Feb 2020, no axe is forged in the US. The exception is a forge with an USFS contract. Not available to the public. I know this because I'm in the process of reviving a classic popular brand.
Collins is made in Mexico by Truper. CRKT come from China. SOG from Taiwan. And the list goes on. A true MADE IN THE USA axe is on the way. It's a long process. 2021 is the expected introduction.
Even the axe review web sites cant do some simple fact checking. With the exception of the one forge and custom forges, NONE are made in the USA.

Your information is wildly false and you should be ashamed of spreading such blatant disinformation.
 
The facts support my claim. You should be careful calling facts lies. Spend 10 minutes looking up factory locations. A belief or hope is not a fact fortytwo.
 
EODTRAIL,if you're so adamant-i wanna see a Wager!:)
C'mon now,make it fun for us,don't be cheap!

Also,if you're setting up production-hows about some photos of forges,machinery,all the juicy industrial stuff-cough it up!!!:)
 
("Council Tool buys its raw materials – namely steel, wood, and fiberglass – from domestic sources. We forge, finish, and assemble our tools in North Carolina. When you buy from Council, you’re buying a true Made-In-USA product!")
According to their web site they are forged and completed in Lake Waccamaw North Carolina. On their web site one interesting thing is that they have a list started of other tool manufactures that still make their tools in USA. I always try and buy USA produced items when possible and a list like they have started would be a great help if it expands over time to include more company's.
 
O A Norlund made 7 different axe patterns. All as equal quality to other manufacturers of the time. I only ask about a comeback, because heard some buzz at a recent knife show they were being made again. A US maker was tooling up for production. I'm a purists to the originals but would appreciate a new made in the USA product of any tool. Council claims there retail market is only 5%. Be nice to see a Norlund on the hardware store shelf again.
 
O A Norlund made 7 different axe patterns. All as equal quality to other manufacturers of the time. I only ask about a comeback, because heard some buzz at a recent knife show they were being made again. A US maker was tooling up for production. I'm a purists to the originals but would appreciate a new made in the USA product of any tool. Council claims there retail market is only 5%. Be nice to see a Norlund on the hardware store shelf again.
Why do I get the feeling EODTRAIL and 42.5knives(I assume you choose that username to troll 42Blades) is the same person?
Please, correct me if I am wrong: To advertise your new axe making venture on this forum you need paid Knifemaker/Craftsman membership.
 
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