what if the military had a flipper?

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3mptin3ss

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i love the military, but for some reason i really wish this knife came with a flipper. i personally am a big fan of the flipper feature which kershaw uses a lot. imagine if you could get a military type spyderco that you could flip open fast and smoothly. what do you guys think of a flipper operated spyderco with a g10 handle?
 
Well, I wouldn't like the Millie as much as I do currently, but a completely new model with a flipper would be interesting. Never was a fan of flippers but the Kershaws do them well.
 
i think the military doesn't suffer much from the absence of such a gizmo, you can still flip it open 'fast & smooth'
 
I kinda see that idea like saying something like, "You know what would make Burger King perfect? If they served the Big Mac..."
 
Eric Glesser has designed a Spyderco with a Kit Carson style flipper called the Domino. I don't have have any other info, or an ETA.

Maybe Sal will chime in.
 
I think flippers are a good addition to liner locks. You can keep P pin snug and still "flick" it open.
 
zenheretic said:
I kinda see that idea like saying something like, "You know what would make Burger King perfect? If they served the Big Mac..."
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That's a bad analogy IMO. I'm finding out that a lot of people who've been in the Spyderco forums for awhile tend to get touchy real quick anytime someone makes an innocent suggestion that might be a little out of the box.
 
I think the Military might be better with the flipper, that is my preferred method of opening. On the other hand a flipper could get in the way on the Military design.
If done right I think it would be an improvement.
 
Kaizen1 said:
That's a bad analogy IMO. I'm finding out that a lot of people who've been in the Spyderco forums for awhile tend to get touchy real quick anytime someone makes an innocent suggestion that might be a little out of the box.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion but Sal is pretty good about thinking outside the box and utilizing good ideas generated by other parties. For example: the wave feature adds something to knives that Spyderco didn't have in the past, so they license its use. If one follows the history of one handed opening, one might understand where I'm coming from in this comment. The burger analogy is perfect for that.Now for actual usefulness, the flipper adds nothing to opening that the hole doesn't already do by itself or with addition of a well crafted finger choil. I'm pretty certain Spyderco is going to stick with the hole for its opening device. Adding a flipper to an already bulging hole included blade adds quite a bit to width, which is something you have to consider in a pocket knife. Most folks enjoy having the ability to carry more than one fat knife in their pocket.
 
zenheretic said:
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but Sal is pretty good about thinking outside the box and utilizing good ideas generated by other parties. For example: the wave feature adds something to knives that Spyderco didn't have in the past, so they license its use. If one follows the history of one handed opening, one might understand where I'm coming from in this comment. The burger analogy is perfect for that.
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I was under the impression that by using that particular analogy, you were implying that it was a bad idea since it would mean taking one brand and using it within another. If I misread that, then my mistake and I sincerely apologize.

Now for actual usefulness, the flipper adds nothing to opening that the hole doesn't already do by itself or with addition of a well crafted finger choil. I'm pretty certain Spyderco is going to stick with the hole for its opening device. Adding a flipper to an already bulging hole included blade adds quite a bit to width, which is something you have to consider in a pocket knife. Most folks enjoy having the ability to carry more than one fat knife in their pocket.
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While this is something to consider, I don't think it's completely accurate. I've read posts of people who prefer the flipper because of arthritis issues. I do agree that a well made choil can secure the hand from slipping on the blade. I also imagine that a flipper on top of that would do much better. Might very well be overkill though (I am a huge fan of choils BTW). And no one can deny that a quality folder with a flipper has a market.
 
Kaizen1 said:
I was under the impression that by using that particular analogy, you were implying that it was a bad idea since it would mean taking one brand and using it within another. If I misread that, then my mistake and I sincerely apologize.



While this is something to consider, I don't think it's completely accurate. I've read posts of people who prefer the flipper because of arthritis issues. I do agree that a well made choil can secure the hand from slipping on the blade. I also imagine that a flipper on top of that would do much better. Might very well be overkill though (I am a huge fan of choils BTW). And no one can deny that a quality folder with a flipper has a market.
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I would like to seperate your comments and address seperately but my work computer isn't behaving properly so it is bunching all together, sorry for the difficulty in reading this may cause. My analogy wasn't brand vs. brand but idea vs. idea. I'll expand on that at a later time if necessary. Flipper for arthritis, yes I can see that. I only know of one knife person with arthritis, he prefers the hole most likely, but one person doesn't count for the whole. Yes I can see some may prefer that mode. I'm guessing the hole adds 1/4-1/2" to width of a blade vs. a knob or disk, and the flipper would also add 1/4-1/2" to the width (depending on the model) so you get an extra 1/2"-1" of width with both devices....yikes in my book.Personally I like that the flipper adds a built in guard when open, I prefer a guard to a finger choil in general for knives. However in folding knives, I find the flipper adds in inadvertantly open the blade at undesired times.Correct, I can deny the wide market for the flipper and I do own some CLB Boker designs with that feature.
 
Bah, I can't edit either my last sentence should say I can NOT deny a wide market exists for flippers.
 
i became a fan of the flipper after i bought myself a kershaw junkyard dog 2. its really such a great knife at such a great price. the junk yard dog 2 showed how nice a flipper knife can be. the flipper action is so smooth on that knife.
 
3mptin3ss said:
i became a fan of the flipper after i bought myself a kershaw junkyard dog 2. its really such a great knife at such a great price. the junk yard dog 2 showed how nice a flipper knife can be. the flipper action is so smooth on that knife.
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Is it a liner lock?
 
zenheretic said:
Is it a liner lock?
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yes. it also has a g10 handle and a large blade. look at the ergonomics on that this blade. it has thick steel liners. at around $50 its one of the best deals around inmop.

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there is also the kershaw lahar, a flipper with a vg-10 blade and g10 handle. i could totally see spyderco making some flippers like this.
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Smash05 said:
para millie with compression lock!
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Exactly, press down on the Para's compression lock with the index finger and you can flip that bad boy out in the blink of an eye!!:D It may as well have a flipper, with practice it's smooth as silk.

Cheers,
Jon
 
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