What is a cho creep ???

When you finish up your e-mail to Yangdu with your name, address, khukuri and payment method, then go back to post an e-mail sent to the forum and see that someone already posted an e-mail sent for the same item, that someone is a cho creep.
 
Notice how some folks have strange ways of pronouncing words.

That's "Joe," dude - Joe Creep. The oldest of the Creep boys from down in the Bottoms. He gets ALL the good good deals. :D (and the fatest snipe)
 
tychoseven said:
It's like this...traditionally the cho is adjacent to the bolster, as in this picture (thanks to Sarge for posting the link in the other thread)
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Now compare the position of the cho in any DotD knives and you can see that they are a bit farther up on the blade, not right next to the bolster. The tendancy for the kamis to put the cho further and further away from the bolster (over time) is called cho creep.

But, others may have a more accurate explanation. That's just what I've gathered from watching and listening.

-Tycho-
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WOW, I really like that khuk!
And I wish I could get a sheath with a (woops... what do you call the brass thing on the end???) like that one!!!
 
The brass end is called a chape. That model appears to be the one that so many Indian made "genuine Gurkha kukri" junkers are designed after.

Bob
 
Big Bob said:
The brass end is called a chape. That model appears to be the one that so many Indian made "genuine Gurkha kukri" junkers are designed after.

Bob
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Roger that, only they usually make the handles much fatter and the handle "ring"sticks up more.

Sometimes our "friends" stamp them "1917," though this model appeared first late in WW II.
 
jamesraykenney said:
WOW, I really like that khuk!
And I wish I could get a sheath with a (woops... what do you call the brass thing on the end???) like that one!!!
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Me too. Less likely to skag ya. Sorta' reminds me of the gizzmo that goes on the end of curtain rops to ease slippin' them into curtains. Don't want a sharp point there either.
 
So............is cho creep good or bad............??

And why is there more cho creep in recent models than in older models.......??
 
Dang,
All this time I thought cho creep was another term for windage while sighting though the cho for your 37mm grenade launcher. Back to the drawing board ;) :D


Ralph
 
Astrodada said:
So............is cho creep good or bad............??
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It depends on your point of view and I suppose the size of your hands.
IMO with the HI handles as long as they are on most of the HI khukuri's there is no need for any cho creep at all.

Astrodada said:
And why is there more cho creep in recent models than in older models.......??
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Because the kamis think we are mindless wonders that don't know how to keep our fingers away from the areas of a khukuri that will hurt us.:rolleyes: :p

Personally I prefer the old curved handles, traditional bolsters and absolutley *NO* Cho creep!!!!
 
Astrodada said:
errrr.......I got small hands so no cho creep is actually better for me ?
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Do you have a preference? Do you have your own mind? You decide what is best for you, no one can know what you prefer except yourself. They are just knives, some with a mystical feel but nothing more.
Some people say that the cho creep causes the balance to be off. I don't know about that, it's just that I don't think the cho creep looks traditional and to me it is ugly, nothing more.
 
Yvsa said:
Because the kamis think we are mindless wonders that don't know how to keep our fingers away from the areas of a khukuri that will hurt us.:rolleyes: :p
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In my case they're probably right, as I just got my first khukuri injuri this morning when my hand slipped on a minimal cho creep, traditional bolster AK which had a little residual oil on the bolster. (I was holding it by the bolster and endcap while checking to see how much the two-day soaking in oil helped it's split situation.) It cut right where it would have been safe with a bit of creep.

Astrodada said:
So............is cho creep good or bad............??
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It can be both good or bad in a way. I haven't seen anyone say, "Boy, I really like all that cho creep on that villager!" So saying something has cho creep is a negative. But, if it doesn't bug you, it's going to let you get some items out of the DOTD that would otherwise be scooped up earlier. The WWII that I referenced earlier has a ton of cho creep and a habaki bolster, but it doesn't affect it's usability in any way and it's the first one I thought of when I needed to do something.

I've wondered if perhaps the cho creep isn't a bit of a cheat on the kamis part to help balance the blades sometimes. When you think about what they're doing, taking something and trying to retain the same form while sizing it up or down, changing the weight and at the same time keeping it usable across the entire range, there have to be pieces of steel that just work out in a certain way. Using a bit of extra space to add some length would allow them to shift the balance of the blade and improve it's usability.

My tin chirra has cho creep and the habaki bolster, but it balances in my hand better than my Foxy Folly with none (actually, looking at it again - it's been in a drawer for a while - it has ~3/4-1 inch of space between the handle and cho, so this isn't an appropriate example in regard to the cho creep) and a traditional bolster and overall, the tin chirra is more visually appealing to my eyes. So, some of it is subjective.

It's one of those things that you have to consider along with handle material, handle color, handle grain, handle length, handle thickness, blemishes, length of blade, thickness of blade, fullering, weight of blade, shape of blade, bolster, fittings material, etc. I wouldn't get too hung up on it. Waiting for absolute perfection or something that fits a preconceived notion of what is "right" (particularly what others think is "right") is a way to miss out on a lot of good things.
 
Well yes SASSAS maybe I shall chop with my Kukri which is about to arrive soon before I made any comments................... :o

But with such a curious mind that I have..............cannot resist........... :o
 
Astrodada said:
Well yes SASSAS maybe I shall chop with my Kukri which is about to arrive soon before I made any comments................... :o

But with such a curious mind that I have..............cannot resist........... :o
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Not at all my intention at all to imply you shouldn't say or ask anything you'd like... I'm a member of the ACLU, they'd take my card back if I did something like that. :)

I like your questions... A lot of them get answers to questions I never would have thought to ask myself (and put ideas in my head to searching through the archives about).

What kind of blade did you order. Did you post that you had ordered already??? I must have missed it.
 
Relief 9/12 said:
Q: "What is `a cho creep' ? "
A: `a cho creep' is someone whom you are SURE is a creep.

Man, you are right with it there. In fact the Cho creep is the guy who sharks that DOD you've been waiting on for months in the thirty seconds when your boss comes by to "chat" after lunch. :D
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I think John Cade has an unfortunate tendency to be a creep, or to be creeping around. It's sad, really.

A "hungry ghost" of a man...

DFTT.

John
 
SASSAS said:
Not at all my intention at all to imply you shouldn't say or ask anything you'd like... I'm a member of the ACLU, they'd take my card back if I did something like that. :)

I like your questions... A lot of them get answers to questions I never would have thought to ask myself (and put ideas in my head to searching through the archives about).

What kind of blade did you order. Did you post that you had ordered already??? I must have missed it.
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It's the Bura Special on 9/26 DOTD................

And I have just received it minutes ago..............:)
 
Back during the 1950's, the Brits made a wonderful movie called, "King of the Khyber Rifles." The star of the movie was a former Marine bomber pilot by the name of Tyrone Power.

In the movie, the Khukuri is often seen. One scene, in particular, shows Khyber Rifles troops (probably actors, but who knows?) throwing their Khukuris with deadly precision, from horseback, at a gallop... I don't know how they did it, but I wish I knew...

Somehow, I don't think "cho creep" affected their aim much... ;)

Carter
 
Carter Leffen said:
Back during the 1950's, the Brits made a wonderful movie called, "King of the Khyber Rifles." The star of the movie was a former Marine bomber pilot by the name of Tyrone Power.

In the movie, the Khukuri is often seen. One scene, in particular, shows Khyber Rifles troops (probably actors, but who knows?) throwing their Khukuris with deadly precision, from horseback, at a gallop... I don't know how they did it, but I wish I knew...

Somehow, I don't think "cho creep" affected their aim much... ;)

Carter
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great movie, from the PCC era tho, so the 'sights' were set correctly. it's the 'modern' kukhs that suffer from sight drift. the movie does show how bad the creep has got now that we can't even throw them accurately at all! :D

i like the scene where they all say we won't fire them riflles even tho you say it only uses veggie fat (ballistol?) for lube, but we've still got these little ol' sharp pointy things and momma says we could put somebodies eye out with them, so let's get chopping - ayo gorkhali!





p.s. - PCC=pre cho creep.
 
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