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What is a sleeveboard pattern?

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by Easyrider, Mar 25, 2014.

  1. Easyrider

    Easyrider Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 31, 2000
    The title pretty much asks the question. I have seen references to sleeveboard patterns and to be honest I have no clue as to what they are or look like.

    TIA
     
  2. Pipeman

    Pipeman

    Dec 2, 2004
    Morning Easyrider
    A sleeveboard has a narrow end and a wider end, like an old fashioned ironing board made for sliding inside shirt sleeves.

    Best regards

    Robin
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  3. Easyrider

    Easyrider Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 31, 2000
    Thank you very much. That helps.
     
  4. Redbeardo

    Redbeardo KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

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    Dec 26, 2012
    What Pipeman said. This is probably my favorite pattern and definitely my favorite knife I own at the time. Here's mine a #79 workhorse sleeveboard.
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  5. VCM3

    VCM3 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 26, 2005
    Well I'll have you know...This is why this forum is cool beans. I recently listed 2 of this pattern and hit a spot of non clarity on the pattern. Then I see this & now I have clarity :thumbup:
     
  6. Pipeman

    Pipeman

    Dec 2, 2004
    :D:thumbup:

    Best regards

    Robin
     
  7. black mamba

    black mamba Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 21, 2009
    I'm not positive about this, but I think it's only called a sleeveboard if in pen form, blades at both ends. If in jack form, then it's called a regular jack or a swell end jack. This GEC #78 American Jack is the same frame as the #79 Workhorse, only in jack form.

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  8. Bob Warfield

    Bob Warfield

    265
    Sep 21, 2013
    Call it whatever, that's a stunner!
    Bob
     
  9. Will Power

    Will Power

    Jan 18, 2007
    This may count. My GEC 26 in Primitive Bone, a small sturdy knife with monster snap :eek:

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  10. pertinux

    pertinux Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Feb 1, 2012
    Interesting! I hadn't heard that as a distinction (sleeveboard vs. swell end jack), only as one description trumping another. From an earlier pattern ramble (sadly, Blues's image link is now broken):

    Take from that what you will. I do enjoy these pattern explorations-- better yet with knives in-hand, although that is a rare treat. I'm grateful for everyone's specific examples, as pictured, in the meantime. :thumbup:

    Speaking of which...
    I can't tell you how much I'm enjoying seeing your pictures of the knives you've mentioned throughout. :)

    The sleeveboard has revealed itself to be one of my favorite patterns, if the jack form is acceptable as "sleeveboard."

    To whit:

    GEC 25s - Gots em?

    and

    Photos and Impressions: GEC #79 Workhorse Whittler (3-spring)

    Finally, don't miss Lambertiana's photographic look here:

    The Old and the New - Sleeveboard

    Such goodness shared, here in our midst.

    ~ P.
     
  11. black mamba

    black mamba Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 21, 2009
    Thanks, as always, Sarah. Looks like the #78 is a sleeveboard jack according to Elliott. You just don't see them listed that way, but it is definitely straight sided. Elliott says, "It is sometimes subtle but where the sleeveboard is generally straight sided with a rounded end, the swell end...well, swells."

    My next question is, what is the difference between a swell end and a teardrop, or are they the same?
     
  12. Alnamvet68

    Alnamvet68

    Mar 26, 2013
    Wouldn't this also apply to a Teardrop knife?
     
  13. Will Power

    Will Power

    Jan 18, 2007
    I think Teardop and Swell End are the same, but...it's true some Teardrops are much more pointy ended (depends on how they were squeezed out??!) but they can be referred to as Candle-End/Tip. The forthcoming CASE version is like this and apparently follows old English pattern in this. Old catalogues seem to refer to Swell End, so perhaps Teardrop became a more vogue name at one stage??

    I begin to suspect I know nothing.....the great leveller:D
     
  14. iSaur

    iSaur

    244
    Mar 6, 2006
    The way I have always understood it, a sleeveboard has the pivot for the master blade at the wide end (like Pipeman's examples), while a swell end or teardrop has the pivot at the narrow end. edit: I just noticed that the thread quoted above by Pertinux already covers this.
     
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  15. VCM3

    VCM3 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 26, 2005
    Makes sense & I think this might help the realization :confused:
     
  16. ptradeco

    ptradeco Gold Member Gold Member

    May 26, 2010
    Even on these Sleeveboard Pen (?) knives there is a discernible master and that is the wide end:

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  17. Redbeardo

    Redbeardo KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

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    Dec 26, 2012
    From what I've read the sleeveboard pattern is also a variation on the elephant toe pattern.
     
  18. pertinux

    pertinux Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Feb 1, 2012
    I believe an elephant toenail/sunfish is typically equal-ended (as gleaned from the earlier thread, quoted above-- Sunfish vs. Sleeveboard).

    Back to jack, Jack:

    Is there such a thing as a Sleeveboard Jack, blade(s) pivoting from the narrower end of the frame, or is that not a thing? Or a mis-named thing...?

    (I vote, "thing," but need to look further again to justify how I've come to that conclusion.)

    ~ P.
     
  19. Pipeman

    Pipeman

    Dec 2, 2004
    Here are Bernard Levines words on sleeveboards.
    Pens. "A sleeveboard pen has round ends"like a senator", but it's handle tapers"." Sleeveboard pen knives ordinarily have the master on the wider end."
    Sleeveboard jacks and jumbo jacks." Regular jacks have squaredcorners at the blade end. Similar tapered knives that are rounded at both ends are usually called sleeveboard jacks.Unlike regular jacks, some sleeveboard jacks have their blades at the wider end." There is more on jumbo jacks but i'm tired of typing :D


    Best regards

    Robin
     
  20. VCM3

    VCM3 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 26, 2005

    Thanks to this thread & the info,witch I probably knew at one point,I have re described a pair on my site. Thanks All
     

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