What is the purpose/benefit/use of the Swayback handle shape?

This is the best part of a swayback pattern. A pull cut grip works amazingly well
All I want is for them to offer equal amounts of CV and Stainless
I agree with this buuuut
I have no use for their stainless whatsoever aaaand I live only a few miles from the beach in one of the hottest and highest humidity localities in the nation - I should be their target market).
I love carbon steel but having working kn a hot humid environment where I use my knife and often snap it shut and throw it in my pocket wet...I love having a few stainless steel knives. Just for the added security.
I'll say it again though, if Case puts out a CV Swayback, I'll be first in line!
And this I 100% agree with!
 
I agree with Rachel, I think a Swayback handle marries perfectly with a Lambsfoot, Pruner, or Ettrick blade (we see some early Pruners with handles with really extreme curved handles). With the Lambsfoot, it allows the canted tip to be presented perfectly. There's a Thread Index in the Guardians thread, with a lot of discussion about handle ergonomics, and there's also a fixed blade Lambsfoot, with a Swayback handle :thumbsup:
Is the fixed blade you talking about the 'Lambshank' that Chin made?

Edited: disregard, I read the rest of the thread.
 
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None of the promises made, vows taken, oaths sworn, or curses levied have motivated them to action in any way whatsoever -- and all I want is for them to offer equal amounts of CV and Stainless (well, that's not REALLY what I want... I have no use for their stainless whatsoever aaaand I live only a few miles from the beach in one of the hottest and highest humidity localities in the nation - I should be their target market).

I'll say it again though, if Case puts out a CV Swayback, I'll be first in line!

Recycled pic of my current favorite Swayback. Wish it was in a steel that took on character, but at least 154CM is better than that "surgical" stuff Case offers.

Ummm, you’ll be second in line.
 
If it helps at all, have a small fixed blade Swayback bought some years ago in South Africa from Trevor Burger.

The handle has a good thickness to it, very comfy in the hand, and not that far off the mark for a folder of the same size.



It is nice to use, to say the least, and comes up particularly well reverse-grip when slicing biltong (your kinda jerky) and fruit...








WOW!!! This is absolutely beautiful! Thank you for posting.
 
IMHO, Case has nailed it... just the right size, shape, all of the above.... swayback perfection....

Well natch. The Case swayback was designed for them by Tony Bose. Note the "TB" in front of the model number.


I'll say it again though, if Case puts out a CV Swayback, I'll be first in line!
Case did put out a CV swayback jack. Here's mine
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And here's my SBJ in Tru Sharp.
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I'm a fan of the pattern. Fits the hand so well. Two very useful blades. A pen and a Wharncliffe? Awesome combination.
 
Adding to the CASE Swayback Appreciation Society : it's their best small knife, forget that fiddly Nut thing ;) their Swayback though small fits nearly all hands. Here's two illustrious Swaybacks, one Tony Bose inspired and the other Charle Campagna inspired, different and magnificent.

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CASE offered a lot of alternatives with this pattern, here it works well with Damascus. Another function of the Swayback is elegance.

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Talking of aesthetics -which to me is important in a knife and much else - what other frame can offer such nubile curves ? Here the Pruner CASE/Bose Collaboration.

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This might be where CASE drew inspiration ? An old Schatt & Morgan from the 30s I believe, Wormgroove bone, Rat-Tail, one straight one bellied blade. It too has the aesthetic charm that shows of the frame to its best, curvy.

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I don't carry a Swayback often, but I do like the pattern. In fact it's one of my favorite. If you move one around in your hand, you'll be surprised how many comfortable grips you can get on one.
Here's some of my Jacks and Gents.
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None of the promises made, vows taken, oaths sworn, or curses levied have motivated them to action in any way whatsoever -- and all I want is for them to offer equal amounts of CV and Stainless (well, that's not REALLY what I want... I have no use for their stainless whatsoever aaaand I live only a few miles from the beach in one of the hottest and highest humidity localities in the nation - I should be their target market).

I'll say it again though, if Case puts out a CV Swayback, I'll be first in line!

Recycled pic of my current favorite Swayback. Wish it was in a steel that took on character, but at least 154CM is better than that "surgical" stuff Case offers.

Please forgive my ignorance, but why is Case CV so highly favored over their SS? It seems many feel this way on BF. Is it just that folks prefer a high carbon blade that will patina? I think their SS is 420HC correct? I've heard they don't heat treat it quite as well as Buck, is that the issue? Thanks
 
More the patina tradition than anything else I think, but it's also easier to sharpen to a razor edge. Frank may correct me, but I think the stainless with its carbides will still hold an edge longer.
 
Please forgive my ignorance, but why is Case CV so highly favored over their SS? It seems many feel this way on BF. Is it just that folks prefer a high carbon blade that will patina? I think their SS is 420HC correct? I've heard they don't heat treat it quite as well as Buck, is that the issue? Thanks
Can't speak for the entirety of BF, but for me, a blade that changes over time, picks up markings from the experiences I have with it, and stands to be imperiled by lack of regular maintenance adds some danger and a hint of drama to the experience of ownership.

Plus, in my mind, when a blade is stainless it gets compared to all of the other stainless options at my disposal. Compared to some very recent stainless options that offer a "super" balance of what most folks are looking for in a knife steel -- I can't figure out what role 420HC even serves for me any longer. It could be the best 420HC on the planet and it's still irrelevant in the stainless category in 2023 - my opinion. If it's not going to change at all in appearance over time, I'd just as soon go with something with improved characteristics.

To me, George Washington's pen knife just wouldn't be as cool if it looked like it fell off an assembly line yesterday. The wear, in that case, is a major component of the artifact's uniqueness and value - historical, financial, and otherwise.
 
It's the patina, and the character it develops.
I can get as good an edge on my TruSharp blades, but they just don't seem to have any "soul".... they are simply good tools. CV bladed knives are good friends...
 
Can't speak for the entirety of BF, but for me, a blade that changes over time, picks up markings from the experiences I have with it, and stands to be imperiled by lack of regular maintenance adds some danger and a hint of drama to the experience of ownership.

Plus, in my mind, when a blade is stainless it gets compared to all of the other stainless options at my disposal. Compared to some very recent stainless options that offer a "super" balance of what most folks are looking for in a knife steel -- I can't figure out what role 420HC even serves for me any longer. It could be the best 420HC on the planet and it's still irrelevant in the stainless category in 2023 - my opinion. If it's not going to change at all in appearance over time, I'd just as soon go with something with improved characteristics.

To me, George Washington's pen knife just wouldn't be as cool if it looked like it fell off an assembly line yesterday. The wear, in that case, is a major component of the artifact's uniqueness and value - historical, financial, and otherwise.

It's the patina, and the character it develops.
I can get as good an edge on my TruSharp blades, but they just don't seem to have any "soul".... they are simply good tools. CV bladed knives are good friends...
I love the way you folks articulated your thoughts. True enough, we don't always select a tool in the hope of a clinically superior experience but instead tend to "bond" with the tool of choice in some emotional way. I like to keep my truck perfect, but don't mind seeing some "miles" on my cutting equipment. ....maybe I've had too much coffee today :)
 
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Her is one I made an carry.
I really like the sharp and low tip of the warncliffe and the handle surprised me how comfortable it is in hand. It would be best for cutting towards yourself with the pinky finger over the bump, but is feels good with the edge pointing down as well.
I have a WC-Trapper ready for HT to try as well. Looing forewards to try that as well
 
Hengelo_77 Hengelo_77 Outstanding talent :cool: Very balanced look to that one, could you state the sizes and materials please ? Weight?

Hope to see more of your work soon.

Regards, Will
 
Wow! The curve of the handle into the blade is stunning. Great knife Will!!
Talking of aesthetics -which to me is important in a knife and much else - what other frame can offer such nubile curves ? Here the Pruner CASE/Bose Collaboration.

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Duvel Duvel Thanks Mike, it is very sinewy and I believe Tony Bose was inspired by certain Sheffield Pruners, the high quality type, the French make Pruners that are very serpent-like too (their word for Pruner I think) Another feature of this knife that impresses is the inclusion of a nail-nick. It's clearly not necessary when so much blade is above frame but to include it in the swedge/swoop is a masterpiece of execution- sleek.
 
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