WHAT IS YOUR FAV NECK KNIFE

Sounds nice Waldo. Maybe I can talk Lynn into a little file work in a couple of years when I finish paying for what I have already got in the fire so to speak and get in line for it.
 
Lynn,
You seem very insecure here about the color of your knives LYNN. This is
as far as I go. AS far as your knives go you make what you want. This
post was NOT started with YOU in mind although you seem to think I care
about YOU and YOUR KNIVES. I am generally a nice person until attacked
without reason. But it seems your insecure feelings about your own
weaknesses are what this is about and you feel you must attack me. If
you feel your knives are gray turds then make a change! I was not
refering to you and your knives in my comments above. Although I think
the maroon handles would look much better!:]
Please lynn I harbor no ill feelings toward you . But you opened this
can of worms so ill close it for ya.

Now as for your comments about cnc and laser cutting ect farming parts
out ect. Well lynn sounds like your a person who is very concious about
what they do. WELL So am I my friend.

Come to my shop LYNN and let me show you how
I make knives to relieve your worrying and freting about me. It seems
how I make knives is something that you feel you should control. Its put
up or shut up time right now. I make my knives in my own shop. This is
what the guild requires LYNN.
That the knife maker make the knives in there shop and do the work!
Lynn I just returned from the NRA school in North Carolina where I
taught a folding knife class of 8. I taught the folks there to make a
curvy bolstered folding knife Lynn with a drill press and a 600.00 table
top mill. WOW... Yes all is posible when you know what the HELL your
doing with machines.
I have made tools and dies and many parts for the B1 bomber LYNN. I have
designed and made machines that put lids on pop and beer cans Lynn that
work at a pace of so fast that you cannot see the lids being put on..
I have made precision parts all my life LYNN I can make an interfarme
folder with seamless inlays on a 600.00 mill .. CAN YOU? I forge my own
steel and damscus also Lynn Because I believe in sole authorship. NO ONE
in the world can make the same patterns and same aura that my damascus
has Lynn. Thats why I do it. I also do my own gold work ,carving and
make cast parts Lynn. These are not things that can be farmed out LYNN!

AS for the parts that I buy LYNN I designed my own pivot system and I
have them made out of my shop LYNN. EVEYONE knows this LYNN.
I have them made out Lynn and here is why Lynn. BECAUSE I WANT QUALITLY
LYNN.
I cannot hold the tolerence that is required for my folding knife pivots
in my shop.
So I tried other pivots on the market LYNN
They suck and are very inconsistant. So I feel that MY clients WANT the
very best I can provide LYNN. One of the biggest problems with liner
locks LYNN is the pivot tolerence.
If its not within .0005 LYNN then there is a chance that the liner will
slip and fail in the long run..
So I designed MY OWN PIVOT STSTEM
AND I BUY them FROM A VENDOR!
I have been selling pivots for 5 years now to other makers LYNN.
So the cats NOT out of the bag LYNN. This is a public forum LYNN .. Its
NOT NEWS.
You are welcome at my shop anytime Lynn. Just make an appointment and I
will be glad to make a folding knife in front of you. Better yet come to
one of my classes on folding knives. It would be great to meet you!

Now I would appreciate it if you would kindly
accept my apology for your insecure feelings about YOUR work, and
politly leave me out of your conversations.
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[This message has been edited by Darrel Ralph (edited 12 November 1999).]
 
Well Darell, I certainly agree with you about the Style/Functionallity thing. I got one of your knives in my shop today, an Appogee with a Talonite blade. (The edge rolled) This knife is a dream, and one of the finest operating liner locks I have ever seen, and I dont much care for liner locks! Seeing one like this does make me rethink my dislike of the liner lock. I guess I dislike them because I cant build them near as good as you!
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Darrell, this knife does indeed have it all, no gray turd there!

Anyway, werent we talking neck knives? ha ha ha.
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Rob
Thanks for the kind words. If I had all the machinery I wanted I could make um like reeve :} I feel he makes the best locking liner I have ever seen. Rob your work is far from the turd catogory also. Will Fennel had a nice straight knife at the show. Is the rumor true?
I guess I was a bit strong here but gawd please take away the gray. It is one of the colors of ohio state.. I see it all the time . IM LOSING MY MIND WHEN I SEE IT hahahah
One exception I feel that is worth a look. Kit Carsons white finish that is done with ceramic bead... Thats a nice blast finish and it does not fingerprint. White is good ..


As for the edge what was the determination on the edge?

I wanted to see how the talonite would hold up with a thinner edge. The last one with talonite I built I left a .025 edge with 35 degree bevels.

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Yup Darell, the rumor is true. I cant say anymore than that right now though! You know how it is. Thanks for the kind words, and glad you liked the knife! It did have those gray turd handles though, but looks good like the one on my banner here at Bladeforums.
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As far as the Talonite, the material in the knife is just fine, it just needs more material behind the edge to support it. I think it is the lower Rc of Talonite. I can take one just as you described with the thicker secondary and hammer the edge through a dime with no deformation of the edge. That Appogee is most excellently thin and I wish the Talonite would hold up to that thin of an edge!

Kit also turned me on to those Ceramic beads and they are great! No dust at all, but are sure hard on mylar sheilds. I use them on my big A-2 knives and I really think that thaey help corrosion resistance by peening the grain shut and also perhaps leaving a very little bit of ceramic dust imbedded in the metal.

I also like the Chris Reeve knives very well, but think you are there if the knife I am looking at is any indication. Of all the liner locks I have seen, Reeve, Carson and yourself do it the best. I have seen some real big name makers that wouldnt hold a candle to the above mentioned.

I dont think you were to strong on the post, you laid the cards down and called. No doubt at all where you stand on the subject!
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I make and sell knives, function and looks sells knives, Lynns knives have the function feel and appearance that make them a sellable item. For sure they are no turd, grey or not. While we are on the subject of neck knives, check out the ones made by Ray Kirk, it's worthe the look.

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In no particular order, I admire the neck knives made by:

Rob Simonich, Fred Perrin and Ray Kirk.

I have a few that I don't have photos of, but a few that I do can be seen at:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=123592&a=905828

I only lack Carson and Ralph (currently) to make my neck knife nirvana complete.
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Thanks for the information so far.


Great
What do you feel a neck knife must do. Should it be a mutli function knife. Should you be able to carry it in several differnt carry positions? Should it be a hide out knife for under suit or jacket as well as a horizonal carry for you belt?


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Darrel,

I suppose what a neck knife does or should do is up to the user.

As for me, I want one that is unobtrusive in size and width, with a shade over six inches being as long as I would want it.

As many here know, I am an LEO and as such carry a firearm daily. I don't regard my knives primarily as weapons, but I would want one to serve as such in a "last ditch" situation.

More important to me however, is the overall utility of the piece. I prefer one that provides a good working edge with good retention capability. This is what makes Perrin's pieces so special imho.

Having one in talonite, like the Talisman I received from Rob Simonich frees me from concerns over corrosion due to the conditions I am likely to find myself in here in South Florida. (Marine environments as well as hot sub-tropical conditions.)

As I want my neck knife to be "stealthy", I don't care about belt carry. Neck or pocket carry is what I prefer, and a sheath which will accommodate both has a lot going for it.
(This is true mostly because I don't wear jackets much. Again, mostly a climate consideration.)

Though I don't own any of your knives at this juncture, Darrell, (I will), I admire your designs and execution. If you design another neck knife, I personally would prefer one without the holes as exemplified with the Krait neck knife. For me it is not the ideal design for that type knife, though I do admire the knife otherwise.

Talonite, Stellite or CPM 420-V would make good choices in terms of blade material. (I have several made of carbon steel and have found that Marine Tuf-Cloth has kept them free of oxidation.)

I apologize for being too longwinded if I went on too long. Hope there is something useful in all this.
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WOW Blues
Good answers here . Just real world gritty stuff. Thanks
As for the holes ideas what about the handle?
Do you feel it can be lightened by removing metal. I understand you concern with the blade.
As for steel choice I see you like the good stuff (just my opinion) . I am considering a tumbler purchase for stone washing. I like what it does to the finish on the knife.
It stops rust.. Like the ceramic bead ..
Closes pours..

It also hold oil well ... and smooths out the surface stopping the kydex from rolling and galling.
Thanks Blues



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Darrel,

First off, thanks for being so receptive to my thoughts in this area. I really like neck knives, but not because of any "tactical" considerations per se. I see them as extremely reliable little fixed blades that are available on a regular basis.

As to your last question, yes, I think you can remove metal in the handle without compromising your design.

I haven't noticed any lack of strength/integrity in the knives I have as a result of holes in the handle.

The one thing I did notice on one of the Perrin pieces (1075 or 1095 carbon steel)was that I was at one point developing a bit of oxidation inside the holes of the handle. (Probably body sweat induced.)

I cleaned them out with a simichrome type product and then applied marine tuf-cloth to the holes diligently when wiping down the blade. I do see a bit of "black oxide"/patina in there, but absolutely no red rust development.

Handles are an interesting area. On the one hand, I REALLY don't want anything which prints under my shirt, so skeleton handles are excellent in this arena. Yet, thin scales of carbon fiber or g-10 that I have on a couple of pieces have been so well done that they are nearly as "invisible" as the flatter skeletonized handles.

In the final analysis, the scales do give a classier look, but my major concern is good grip without "printing". I'll take "function" over "form" a bit in this particular arena.

Whatever it is you come up with after all this is said and done, I'm pretty sure I'd like to line up for one. In fact, I'd bet on it.
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Thanks for listening. It means a lot.

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I like Perrin's Griffe and the tribal version adds some feel beyond pure function.

I would like to see it in Boye dendritic cobalt. That would solve the corrosion problem and enhance the ability to cut.

RJ Martin's Handiman in D2 is a nice piece.

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[This message has been edited by RKnight (edited 14 November 1999).]
 
Darrel,

I like your point about some style in addition to pure function.

I think we have new class of knives called neck knives which are actually larger skeletonezed knives like the Crawford Kasper. Would it be sweet with custom scales, I think so.




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Yeah I'm crazy, but what do you want me to do about it
 
I have had a few clients tell me just that ... It is nice to have a neck knife fully finished with nice scales. Skelotnized is ok for certain proceedures. But most like the idea of full scales?
Comments.

I like the look of the perrin also It does have a certain aura about it..

SHEATHS what are you looking for?
Consealx, carbon fiber, kydex black. What floats your boat..



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