WHAT IS YOUR FAV NECK KNIFE

Okay Darrell Great Question. I have the definitive answer for all to see. It may not be for everyone but you asked! No Gray No CNC What do you all think? I know what you think "I am computer challenged"
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[This message has been edited by Ken B (edited 14 November 1999).]
 
I like thin scales on a neck knife. I am adding gold lip and regular MOP to two Neck Pecks for my daughter for Christmas. I think your neck Krait with MOP and 420V would be very nice. In my opinion MOP dresses up any knife.

As far as sheaths are concerned I like Concealex <sp> or Kydex with rounded edges and multiple ways to carry the knife.
 
I like a skeletalized handle when I absolutely want the most minimal print. But I find a general preference for some thin scales to aid in the grip.

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Ken
Nice ... What steel is it?

Thanks for the quotes. Looks like the scales have it.. so far..
So there is a split market for neck knive.
1. A true hide out knife with a minimal print
, Could second as a horizonal carry or hanging carry in the coat ect..
2. A small utility knife that has as little print as posible BUT has scales. Can be a dresser of down and dirty tactical.

Am I on the right track...

NOW blade length to handle length...

3 finger or four finger handle?
blade length

I will start with blues. He says he likes 3.5 -4 inch handle to a 2 in blade basic..

Thoughts.

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Well, I only own one "neck knife," even though I have a couple of other knives that can be carried around your neck, but are too heavy to really make it worth it. The one I own? The REKAT UNK. As far as I'm concerned, it's very close to perfect. Close.
My favorite neck knife that I have seen, although not touched, is the Talonite Talisman by Rob Simonich. VERY close second in looks is your own neck knife, with the Krait pattern blade. In fact, that is such a close second that it is almost a toss up. It almost depends on what mood I'm in for the day. However, I would echo what someone else said, I think... that I would like it even better without the holes in the blade.
Finally, coming in a close, close third is the new, medium neck knife sketches that I have seen on Lynn Griffith's site. I really like the looks of all his knives, even in the ... plain ... colors. I can't wait to see one of his medium neck knives finished, knowing what his other knives look like. To me, the beauty in a knife is in the function. Given two knives of equal cost, I would pick the plainer, because I would be more likely to use it than just have it.
As far as what's missing, I don't think I have enough experience with neck knives to make a statement regarding that.

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[This message has been edited by Outlaw_Dogboy (edited 15 November 1999).]
 
I want a minimum of 2.5 inches of edge. Three inches is even better. (If it doesn't sacrifice the overall design integrity.)

However, I still want the overall length to come in at 6.25 inches or under with a thin profile. (Scales are fine as long as they don't "print". The secret seems to be not to have a big change in width from one point to the next.)

A knife in this "range" is stealthy, functional, can still be "classy", and is not an "albatross" around one's neck all day.

As for grip, with the proper design, a three finger grip is fine for most all uses.

With talented makers like Darrel, Rob, Kit and Ray working on these knives, it's a neck knife lovers dream come true.

All I can add is: Do it, Do it, Do it!!!
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Blues

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Darrel,
Great thread!
Sorry I didn't get around to it until now, but I'll add my 2 cents. We can all argue the features we want in the knife till the cows come home, but what really makes a neck/hideout fixed blade for me is the sheath/carry system[IMHO]. Production companies and custom makers need to put more thought into this area, or customers will have to continue to carry folders on a daily basis, instead of using small fixed blades, due to comfort and concealment issues.

Sure, I carry FB concealment knives sometimes, but most on the time I carry a folder, because most neck/concealment knives sheaths are after thoughts that the designer came up with AFTER he designed his newest wonder neck knife.

So to sum this up, I like small fixed blades[knives in the neck knife class], but I don't like most carry systems. Take a thin, lightweight fixed blade, make sure it doesn't have any sharp corners on the handle, and put it in a versitle thin, lightweight sheath with out alot of extra material and sharp corners. Put some thought[while designing the knife] into the retention system that will keep the knife in the sheath, but allow it to be easily removed and resheathed. Maybe this system could be versitle enough to used for neck or pocket carry?

I think Bud Nealy has gotten a 'head start' in this area. I really like his Pesh Kabz too. CRK&T has to have the best 'value'entry into this field with the STIFF KISS[I like the drop point version best], again IMHO. I'm sure that there are others, these are only knives I'm familar with,...to be used as examples.

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Hmmm ... moderators using phrases like "gray turds" to describe the products of their competitors. Now there's something that's attractive and a good representation for the cutlery industry. So much for disagreeing without being disagreeable, huh?

While some may consider the S&W Jogger, aka whistle knife, cute, a selling point for the less-than-bright ELU's, this is actually a very functional modification.

Whistles have long had a deterrent effect against some attackers. Most muggers and such don't want a crowd coming over to see what's up, which whistle's have a tendency to cause.

We have a local park where many people walk, jog, and run. Almost everyone has whistles. For that reason, if someone blows one, most everyone knows someone needs help. Simple, cheap, and effective. Will it stop a murderer or rapist? Probably not. But the average thug looking to just rip someone off for money will avoid folks that are prepared to summons help with a whistle.

Everytime I go to exercise, my S&W Jogger goes with me. It offers something of value no other neck knife has to offer. Laugh if you want, the whistle won't be a joke if I end up needing it. Or would you rather I stay quiet until the attacker is close by and then use your neck knife to inflict bodily harm? I will always prefer avoidance of such and whistles can and do work with many attackers.

True, the S&W knife itself isn't worth much, but it's certainly worth the $20 street price and I don't have to worry about a good and/or expensive knife suffering from the effects of body oils and sweat on it day after day. And, if the whistle does prove to be needed one day, it will be worth far more.
I also have a Crawford Kasper Neck Knife with me at all times, which, at $125, is a great value, especially as a utility knife and backup defense weapon. Even with the Kydex sheath, which is a clean, well-thought design, it's only 1/4" thick, making it extremely comfortable and extremely easy to conceal.

Is the S&W a ripoff of Darryl's beautiful and probably extremely well made neck knife? Probably so. But it's not a market threat - we talking very different leagues here. Heck, be flattered they thought enough of your design to copy it. Unless you're willing to spend the resource for a patent, and be prepared to back it up, well, welcome to the real world of capitalism. The copying of good designs is not new, you are not the first victim of it, won't be the last. Do I agree with S&W copying it - not on an intellectual level. Please note that I am a professional software developer, a field where it is FAR easier to duplicate a good design, and get it almost identical, than the cutlery industry. You guys are worried about a knife that has the same basic lines, but is far inferior to your's? Give me a break...

Ray

P.S. Not everyone hides email addresses to avoid responsibility, Darryl. Public forums such as this, are great places for harvesting email addresses to sell. Which isn't BF's fault - it happens everywhere. At least, by using Hotmail, the junk mail I receive doesn't flood my primary address. In other words, your remark about those that hide their email is not only wrong, but offensive.
 
Going through my records, only since late August with this patern, I've finished this knife in 11 different handle configurations and 4 blade finishes. The most popular being the one pictured with the Ti scales and cord wrap. Two have been sold skeletonized and bead blasted, not even para-cord wrapped. Several have been done in stabilized wood.
The pictured one is a prototype. I'm now makeing the grindlines higher with a thinner edge. The D2 has been holding up very well on my test knife!
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I thought this thread could use another picture to brighten it up a bit!
Neil

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Thanks CODEMAN for your comments.
I feel at this time its best to not comment.
Im glad you like the whistle.!

Thanks for the great pic DR Lathe.
This knife look very functional as well as having style . Nice handle wrap.
What do you do for a sheath?

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The best concealex sheath I currently own is by our own Rob Simonich. Flawless fit and finish. Looks great, holds the knife perfectly and doesn't print. What more could you want?

Mike Sastre does great work on concealex sheathes as well.

I think either of those two gentlemen would be a great resource, especially since they are fellow travelers here on the site as well.

Blues

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I've always wanted a neck knife that wasn't ugly. Did you see that guy in Ny that had the wood sheaths with the magnets in them? The blades weren't big enough to be very useful but they were pretty. Like jewelry. Ok here's what I want, long enough to get a grip on and since I occasionally wear shirts without collars and a tie i'd like the knife to hide behind the tie. ya a simple little clip like a tie clip but in reverse to hold it behind the tie. The cord can attach to a top button first then run down to the sheath behind the tie. My description might be bad but hopefully you can get the drift of my idea.
i'd like the option of stuffing the cord in the inside suit jacket pocket and having the
knife hang upside down inside the jacket. I don't need belt carry options because then it wouldn't be a NECK knife and there are plenty of better knives for that purpose. So first big enough handle. If i want something to hold with 2 fingers I'll use a razor blade.
Second something pretty enough to look nice in other than work clothes if it is to be seen. Third stainless steel because oils and shirts don't mix.
 
Think I'll add one mre that i've often thought about. You can do anything with a handle. It can be beautiful. I'd like the blade to be inside the handle and retract and lock when pulled down. Then we would have a smaller package that can be lavishly embellished and don't have to consider the blade in the overall length. I know it's tricky but it would be sweet and move neck knives away from the tactical style.
 
Neck Knives.

I will second Will on this one, the sheath is it. Just about any knife of a certain size and minimal signature will make a neck knife, it is the sheath that does it.

I carried the Moran with a Kydex sheath that had attachments for all sorts of carry.

In general though, I agree with the idea of..

3-4 inches of blade
skeleton or thin scales
Rust resistant material, talonite or even ti?
Finish like stonewash or ceramic bead

Ergonomics, very important, especially a guard that stops your fingers as opposed to the speed bumps on so many knives.

A smooth shape that does not stick you.

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I myself also like the Emerson LaGriffe. But as far as my real favorite, it would have to be the Maddog Mirage-X micro. It is the best as far as not having to worry about it rusting as a few others have and for edge retention.
Randall
 
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