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What is your pick for best self defense Spydie

Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by SilvaSpyder, Nov 11, 2018.

  1. Otto Carpenter

    Otto Carpenter Gold Member Gold Member

    416
    Jun 24, 2016
    "Never fight fair with a stranger, boy..." - Arthur Miller

    This thread has been a grisly read but the concern is justifiable in this day and age. Practice situational awareness. Try not to be in a no-fly zone. De-escalate a confrontation. Use your head, not your knife.
     
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  2. Wolverine666

    Wolverine666 Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2009
    This is my pick for best SD Spyderco. [​IMG]
     
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  3. BuckShack

    BuckShack Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 19, 2015
    I only own two PM2 so that is my choice. I've got plans for others now thanks to you guys. :thumbsup:

    Here is one. The other is black.
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  4. on_the_edge

    on_the_edge Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    In fact, yes, your brain and common sense will go much farther than a knife ever will in the self defense arena. Of course, one must have a brain and common sense to begin with. :rolleyes:
     
  5. brownshoe

    brownshoe I support this site with my MIND

    Sep 6, 2002
    I've been car jacked and I would never had time to pull a knife even if I have the presence of mind to remember it.

    When you are getting out of a car and all of a sudden are looking at a shotgun held by a teen, your first reaction is...Oh s**t. I had a Buck Mayo in my pocket and it stayed there.

    I carry a Harpy, Matriarch or P'Kal when I need a little steel in my spine, but I have no illusions about turning into Jet Li if I get jacked again :)
     
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  6. sharp_edge

    sharp_edge Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 30, 2015
    Not about SD, just want to say that DLC s30v digicam g10 is the best looking PM2 among all PM2 that I have/had (DLT red g10 m390, DLT grey g10 20cv, KW cf m4, and burnt orange rex 45).
     
  7. Dudelepowski

    Dudelepowski

    134
    Jun 26, 2012
    I agree and disagree. Many people who get stabbed don't realize it. Many people who get slashed don't realized it either but if an attacker gets slashed in the neck or groin with a purpose-designed Spyderco Civilian, I guarantee that attacker is stopping.
     
  8. Lapedog

    Lapedog

    Dec 7, 2016
    Likewise there are places you can stab a person that will likely result in a stoppage.

    But no I disagree. While a slash to the neck might be very quickly fatal the slashed person may still have enough gas to grab your knife and slash you back, or slash you with their own knife.

    Knives have no stopping power short of completely severing a muscle or tendon that will disable its corresponding movement. Will a deep slash to the neck kill someone? Almost certainly. However until they bleed out and lose conciousness they can still do you harm.
     
  9. Megawatt308

    Megawatt308 Gold Member Gold Member

    265
    Dec 15, 2013
    Many people think they got punched when they were actually stabbed.

    Many knife deciplines teach to comma cut on the thrust strikes. It causes alot more damage than simply poking with the blade.
     
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  10. ponykid

    ponykid

    414
    Sep 14, 2015
    Swick. Old original version with smaller hole. Wharncliffe blade like Yojimbo and you cant drop it . original was much slimmer . would love to find an original leaf blade swick as well but not paying 150-200 for one.
     
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  11. Dudelepowski

    Dudelepowski

    134
    Jun 26, 2012
    I guess what I'm saying is that if someone told me that there was a 100% chance that someone was going to try to take my life and I could choose one Spyderco folder to defend myself with, it would be the Spyderco Civilian for reasons already described.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2018
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  12. Lapedog

    Lapedog

    Dec 7, 2016
    I think the waved Matriarch is a better choice. Self defense scenarios we can’t run away from are going to make drawing a non waved knife and thumbing it open a tricky proposition. If walked around all the time with the Civillian open in your hand then that’s fine but since the advent of wave opening folders imho a self defense folder absolutely requires one.

    Then the next step is practicing waving that folder until it is absolutely second nature.
     
  13. shunsui

    shunsui Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 12, 2008
    I've always liked the Hinderer fingerguard on the XM series and the ZT 0560, 0562 knives. The Spyderco Amalgam looks like it would be a nice EDC/SD type knife.


    Sounds like they got the bugs out of the flipper/bearings.
     
    Last edited: Nov 19, 2018
  14. cbrstar

    cbrstar Gold Member Gold Member

    877
    Sep 7, 2015
    I'm kinda surprised no one has chosen the Police model.
     
  15. Ironbut

    Ironbut Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 1, 2016
    I'm retired LE & I never leave the house without a handgun. If I knew when I left the house in the morning that I was going to need my handgun for self defense, then I'd take a carbine or shotgun too.

    I don't really carry knife for self defense, but if I did, it'd probably be a big assed Busse or something like that. If I was limited to a folder, I'd probably go with a Yojimbo 2. The reasons why Michael Janic designed it the way he did seem valid to me.
     
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  16. sgt1372

    sgt1372 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 16, 2018
    I'm a retired LEO too but I almost never carry a gun, even though I'm qualified to do so. Just too much of a hassle and too big of a liability if I actually use it. Not sure how/why you'd carry a carbine or shotgun for SD. I'm sure that that would draw A LOT of attention if you did. Especially, in the current climate and aftermath of all of the recent mass murders.

    While I have over 140 knives and have many designed specifically for self-defense, I normally only carry "normal" EDC blades, like the Natrix that I'm currently carrying.

    However, if I think I'm going to be visiting an area that requires it (usually at night), I'd carry a G17 in my Galco shoulder rig and/or a G26 in my Sticky Holster ankle rig and/or a small automatic knife (like a Microtech UTX-85 or Min-Infidel) and/or a small back up fighting knife folder like a Spyderco Introvert or ZT0750 Talon.

    If that's not good enough to handle any situation that arises, I'll be in WAY OVER my head any way and will just call 911. LOL!!! ;)
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2018
  17. Lapedog

    Lapedog

    Dec 7, 2016
    My main issue with the Introvert is that one can carry a Fred Perrin La Griffe and essentially have the exact same knife in a fixed blade. The La Griffe in its tiny sheath is more compact and faster drawing than the introvert.

    I don’t understand, why is the karahawk slower to open than the Pikal? Both knives have wave devices and thus should draw faster than the introvert. The pikal and karahawk draw as they are pulled out of the pocket wheras the introvert needs to be flipped open after drawing.

    The Lapu Lapu family have that “kinetic opener” where you sort wave the knife after drawing it. I think these lapu lapu family knives would have benefited greatly from being tip up so one could wave them on draw if they chose.

    I love that Spyderco makes these designs for self defense knives. I wish they made wave features standard on self defense Spydercos; maybe a removable peg wave like the pikal.
     
  18. Lapedog

    Lapedog

    Dec 7, 2016
    Sometimes it does but I wouldn’t want to count on that. My whole issue with non waved folders for self defense is you have to draw them then open them.

    Even for making a “scarey noise” waved knives do this faster as they are drawn whereas an auto has the extra step after drawing.

    I already think folders are extremely not ideal for a defensive weapon you may have to draw under stress. A wave atleast helps somewhat. If it is a fight I can’t run away from chances are good it is a fight too close for me to want to be fumbling with thumb studs or butttons

    Its ugly but atleast almost any spyderco can use a zip tie mod to help out. Or some companies are making attachable third party waves.
     
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  19. ericdraven

    ericdraven Platinum Member Platinum Member

    192
    Jan 31, 2013
    i CC so i doubt i would be in knife fight , i would try to talk it down but old saying my dad had

    young guys fight old guys shoot lol . and i CC everywhere like my wife does also

    i would use a push dagger if gun is away from me
     
  20. GIRLYmann

    GIRLYmann

    Nov 7, 2005
    Now here's the thing.
    If SD with a knife means to cut one's self away from an assailant, then i guess any knife would do.
    Basically the action revolves around quick stabs and multiple slashes in order for one to flee within seconds from harms way.
    But to go head on as in having a prolonged exchange requires a heavy duty blade.
    Meaning a blade that is able to withstand a great deal of force and punishment.
    I would think very few, if any folder is able to
    lift a man of his feet.
    Because this is where most knives eventually face the greatest possible malfunction...
     

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