What knife / knives do you not "get"?

Damascus steel is one of those things I like if it is REAL forged damascus. This factory stuff that is around now looks like damascus, but it holds little appeal to me. But I only speak for me. My first damascus blade was a Buck 110 around 1990. It caught my eye at a gun show and I bought it. Cost 3 or 4x what a regular 110 cost. Still have it. It has cut nothing and it probably never will. That is pretty much my problem with damascus. I'll never use it.
 
The main one that comes to mind is Kizer knives. Only like the looks of the bhq exclusive tomcat, dont like any of the others they have brought out.
 
From a more aesthetic point of view, I don't get damascus steel. I like a very clean, minimal look and damascus almost always seems obnoxiously busy to me. I really don't understand the appeal it holds to some.

I think it's a matter of initial perception. Some feel it's exotic and interesting, and some see it as ugly. There's a wide range of damascus patterns out there, and I find I dislike about 3/4 of them. However, my dream knife is a bloodwood-inlaid large insingo raindrop damascus Sebenza. I wouldn't pay that much for any other Sebenza, but, THAT KNIFE (which doesn't exist) would make me drop the cash on it.

I never really got the PM2. Had a couple, just didn't really see the spark.

I'm right there with yeh.

The main one that comes to mind is Kizer knives. Only like the looks of the bhq exclusive tomcat, dont like any of the others they have brought out.

I like the Tomcat and the Splinter, and there's a "filagree" model that has a drop point and a tanto that I can't be bothered to google image search for. Their more recent models look very silly to me, with paw prints and odd blade shapes. Many of their collaborations are notably incredibly plain-looking as of late as well... The Kane, Flashbang, and others just do nothing for me. I'd still like to get my hands on a Tomcat Wharncliffe, though.
 
The two brands that come immediately to mind in the 'I don''t get it' department are Sebenzas and most Spydercos. With the Sebenzas, it's basically 'everything.' With the Spydercos, it's mostly the look of most of them, especially when open, and that big hole. In their case there ARE a few of exceptions to this--3 or 4 models I might like. I know Spydercos and Sebenzas are good knives though.

I like Spydercos based on their design as cutting tools. I almost don't even factor aesthetics into my consideration of a Spyderco... The Manix is probably ugly to some, but, in my hands, it's such a perfect cutting tool that I wouldn't care if it was pink and glittery. They put premium materials at an affordable price, and are often experimental with their designs and material choices. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but they've got something for every profession and for every collector (that doesn't mind a big hole in the blade).

Regarding Cold Steel, IMO they are probably the one brand with the broadest spectrum of "nice >> ugly." The Cold Steels I own I purchased because I like the look, utility and quality of them. However as you go down their line there are those which, to me, are either non-appealing or just plain ugly. At one time I bought into 'the whole line and brand is just cheaply constructed, weirdo crap' crap. Now that I own a few I realize how wrong I was.

For real. They don't help the perception with their over-the-top advertising and their mysteriously-marketed items like the Steven Segal Swordbreaker. Oh, great, I'm sure glad I have a defensive melee weapon in case someone breaks into my house with a Katana. Bonus that it's named after an arrogant tubby wash-up.

Again, though, still love a lot of their knives.

As far as Emersons are concerned I liken them to Harley-Davidsons. Lovers and haters, little in between. Me not being a carrot-slicer, it's the old, "If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand" thing. I respect the opinions of the honestly-held detractors however. No knife is for everyone. It's only those who have never owned one for any length of time yet denigrate them continuously that I am a bit suspect of. For Emerson bashers who want to talk about price:

Quality knives can be expensive, a relative term. How a Sebenza is worth two or more Emersons is the biggest mystery of all to me. In that case it's ME who doesn't understand.​

If we're using Emerson as a comparison, I feel like it's reasonable to say that a Sebenza is worth twice as much. The quality control, materials, and warranty are arguably twice as good (although it's hard to reasonably put a number to that kind of thing.)

With the competing manufacturers churning out Ti framelocks with exceptional quality control, I would have a hard time arguing that the Sebenza's price tag is worth it - although, if you watch some videos on how they are made, you'll see why they charge what they charge. It's no run-and-done factory setup. There's some real precision and craftsmanship at work. They're production mid-techs, as far as I'm concerned - again, though, that doesn't make it "worth it."
 
i dont get why none of the benchmades i have handled have a proper detent.

all that i have tried are easily shaken out.

is this on purpose?

i really love my contego but wish it wouldnt come open so easily.
 
i dont get why none of the benchmades i have handled have a proper detent.

all that i have tried are easily shaken out.

is this on purpose?

i really love my contego but wish it wouldnt come open so easily.

The axis lock design has a "soft" type of detent - not really a detent at all truthfully. That is my primary reason for not favoring them.

Unlike a number of posters in this thread, I absolutely love my Emersons and my Sebenza's (as well as Unumzaans and a Ti Lock).

I have had a decent number of Spyderco's and can't say I disliked them, but other than one all black fully serrated old school Police, haven't kept any of the others.

The knife I have tried to like and just don't is the Strider's. Nothing to do with the company, just don't dig the designs.
 
Bark river, I have had the necker 2 and it was a great knife. I regret selling it, but all of their bigger fixed blades are so ugly to me. I don't know if it's because I Haven't seen them in person but the handles and sheaths and even the blade finish all look just "off" to me. And they imo are way overpriced.
 
BK2. IMO it's too small to be that big.

I'll second that: 16 ounces, a pound, for a 5.25" blade? That has to be the worst weight-to-utility ratio in the whole history of knives...

And I don't get "Bushcraft" knives at all either, which to me the Bk-2 squarely belongs to...: Make the smallest "pug" of a knife that you can, so that you look like a hotshot who knows better than carrying a big tenderfoot chopper...: Hey, look how much I know what I am doing: Look at how little I need to get by... That shows you what a hotshot I am...

Does it ever occur to these guys that a twice shorter edge will dull twice as fast? Hmmmm... With 16 ounces I guess logic is not part of this whole situation: Even Rambo was more grounded it seems, the 10 inch "Mission" weighing about the same as the Bk-2...

And it is not new either: Even Julius Ceasar went along with this nonsense long before the bushcraft guys did...: "To brave men the short sword". I guess if you want to "get" what is behind this sort of thing, the key word here is "Brave"...

Gaston
 
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The knife I have tried to like and just don't is the Strider's. Nothing to do with the company, just don't dig the designs.

I can't get over the blade:handle ratio. 3.5" of blade, 2.8" of which is sharpened, and an overall length of 8.2".

That's not a folding knife, it's a really teensy spear. 5.4" of handle for 2.8" of cutting edge. Don't get me wrong, there are knives with choils that I enjoy, and I've already mentioned 2/3 of them in this thread. I love the Manix, Tuff Lite, and the Kershaw RAM. I don't know what it is about the handle of the SNG, but it just doesn't work for me. The SMF is just too big for a measly 0.35" more cutting edge. I dunno. I love the DOC, though. Strider is another one of those "love the collaborations, not a fan of the original" brands for me, along with Emerson.
 
Belt buckle knives come in various styles. I used to have a push dagger which was the buckle itself, it looked like a regular belt buckle, and some folding knives were part of the buckle on some types.
 
Most of the ones mentioned I can't seem to like, Sebenza, ZT, Emerson. Sebenza and Emerson, I just can't find them worth the price. ZTs are just too big/clunky. I've owned at least one Spyderco since the mid '80s so I tend to like Spydercos but it's because I like the Spyder hole better than a thumb stud. Lately though I can't like any Spyderco with an FRN handle. It just feels super cheap to me.

To me most knives are over styled. There seems to be a lot of emphases on adding curves, ridges and designs. NorthernSouthpaw mentioned Todd Begg and to me some of his folders are great examples of over styled. The designs make me think of wearing stripped pants with a polka-dot jacket, paisley tie, plaid shirt and zebra striped fedora. Every piece of the knife does not need to be a different color and pattern, in fact it shouldn't be. That's probably why I also tend to dislike Damascus blades. They may have a place because of their metal characteristics, but they are just too "look at me!" for my tastes.
 
While not a single knife, I don't get the whole "mid tech" thing. To my understanding, most are just outsourced production knives that demand inflated prices. I mean, what's the difference between a Spyderco Slysz Bowie(for example) and most mid techs? I don't have a problem with production knives designed by a custom maker but the idea of changing the name to mid tech leaves me scratching my head.
 
I always chime in go these threads the same way. I will probably never buy another benchmade. The blade grinds and a few f and f issues really turned me off in the past and I feel no need to give them another chance. Just my opinion....
Russ
 
Hinderer flippers that don't flip. You can try to explain it away any way you want but why even put a flipper tab on it if you don't want it to flip all the way open? And great, you can loosen the pivot until it half flips decently. Half. You shouldn't have to mod your knife just so it works correctly..
 
Many of their collaborations are notably incredibly plain-looking as of late as well... The Kane, Flashbang, and others just do nothing for me.

The Flashbang's look improves with a bit of modding: https://instagram.com/p/3cqHS1R9Uf/?taken-by=brancron (done by DRS Bladeworks aka Derk Razor Sharp). I've got to tell you though, the Flashbang and the Dorado have been the absolute best Kizers I've handled in terms of their fit and finish. I imagine the upcoming models (like the Laconico one etc.) will be as good if not better.
 
Zero Tolerance. Why, WHY do they take their meticulously-designed knives and scar them with the shoddiest logo in all of graphic design?

It looks like it's barely squeaking by with a C- in Design 101, and starting to regret not going to business school...
 
Zero Tolerance. Why, WHY do they take their meticulously-designed knives and scar them with the shoddiest logo in all of graphic design?

It looks like it's barely squeaking by with a C- in Design 101, and starting to regret not going to business school...

Haha. I never really though about it before, but I can see what you mean.
 
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