What opening way is the most fun way to play with?Why?

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  1. Kizer Cutlery

    Kizer Cutlery Follow our Instagram: kizercutlery_inc Moderator

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    Jun 24, 2013
    This week's discussion we are gonna discuss what opening way (flipper, front flipper, open hole, etc.) of folding knives is the most fun way to play with and why? Lets do this!
    *By the way, do you like our Kizer Maestro down below? It has multiple way to open and i love that. Do you like mutiple opening? why or why not?

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    *Exciting news!! Our IG will held the first Kizer festival, 'Kizer friday' on April, 3rd (GMT -4) come and join! BTW, next discussion thread will relate to this!Have fun.
     
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  2. RoyalHolic

    RoyalHolic

    64
    Aug 3, 2019
    Front flipping is the hardest to master to where it feels smooth so I would rank that highest for fidget factor!

    They're all fun though and that maestro looks awesome.
     
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  3. anthonycastorena2014

    anthonycastorena2014 Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 27, 2014
    Spydie Hole bar none.
     
  4. Shorttime

    Shorttime

    Oct 16, 2011
    A/O and bearing flippers are the most fun, but it's better when they have metal scales.

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    The Kershaw Cyclone is an example. Plastic scales or slabs muffle sound, removing that satisfying "clack" that you should hear when the blade hits the stop.

    Kizer did a good job overall with the Gti.

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    The blade fires, but not so hard that it tries to kick the blade out of your hand. It's easy to close when you're done, too.
     
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  5. RoyalHolic

    RoyalHolic

    64
    Aug 3, 2019
    I feel the same way about the CRKT Crossbones it's light metal but doesn't feel like it kicks out of your hand when you flip it.
     
  6. jstrange

    jstrange

    Mar 31, 2012
    I think liner-locks are the funest to play with. I haven’t owned a frame-lock that I have liked as much. I also haven’t had a flipper that I’ve kept. Frame-lock flippers are the ones I’ve had the worst luck with. I don’t mind thumb-studs, but prefer a Spydie-hole type opener. Also, cant stand a flipper that also has studs. Just one man’s opinion.
     
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  7. Chronovore

    Chronovore Basic Member Basic Member

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    Aug 29, 2019
    I like a flipper tab. It doesn't matter if it's a front flipper or the regular kind. When the action is smooth and the detent is just right, I love the way it snaps open. It brings me a little bit of joy at the start of every cutting task.

    I don't love thumb studs. I don't like how they stick out from the blade. I'm also sensitive to the spacing and action due to a little arthritis in my thumbs. That means I have a smaller window of acceptable ergonomics when thumb studs are the opening mechanism. (Coincidentally, the Domin works well for me.)

    Generally, I have a "less is more" approach to things like this. Additional opening methods are just extra doodads I don't need. They can introduce complications I don't like. I feel the same way about lanyard holes. I don't use them. They can disrupt optimal clip placement or create a hot spot in some designs.
     
  8. DangerZone98

    DangerZone98

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    Dec 7, 2019
    Hard to beat the Para 3 LW compression lock. Sal and Eric designed an excellent EDC gem.
     
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  9. unwisefool

    unwisefool Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    Freeman 451 has 3 ways to open: flipper, indent on the blade similar to a hole, and the button lock. Lots of fun to play with.
     
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  10. Kizer Cutlery

    Kizer Cutlery Follow our Instagram: kizercutlery_inc Moderator

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    Jun 24, 2013
    Could you tell me why you dont like multiple opening in one knife? Dont they bring multiple open fun to you?
     
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  11. Kizer Cutlery

    Kizer Cutlery Follow our Instagram: kizercutlery_inc Moderator

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    Jun 24, 2013
    Thank you for your reply!! "less is more" is a good thought.
     
  12. dryflytrout

    dryflytrout

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    Jan 15, 2017
    Balisong.
     
  13. RayseM

    RayseM Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 18, 2010
    I could have written this ^ myself. Completely agree especially as regards to holes and studs. One or the other. Holes over studs, if I have to choose, but not both - unnecessary and so just a gimmick in an overly gimmicked world.

    This one is simple and very fine enough. An excellent flipper liner lock.

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  14. razor-edge-knives

    razor-edge-knives Moderator Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Apr 3, 2011
    Front flipper all day

    @Sharp & Fiery has mastered every flipping method possible :)
     
  15. jstrange

    jstrange

    Mar 31, 2012
    I just don’t like the looks of them mostly. Too much redundancy also brings too much clutter. If you are going to have a flipper make the blade smooth and clean. No studs to get in the way of sharpening or cutting. Just my opinion. I’m sure there are equally good arguments for the opposing opinion.
     
  16. Sharp & Fiery

    Sharp & Fiery Always Embellish Platinum Member

    May 14, 2012
    This. All the way.
     
  17. Sharp & Fiery

    Sharp & Fiery Always Embellish Platinum Member

    May 14, 2012
    @Kizer Cutlery

    Generally speaking, most collectors and users here at BF love clean lines and less BS. It will be hard to make a fortune off “multiple openers” here.

    Myself, favorite opener is, as @razor-edge-knives said, front flipper with low profile tab. I despise tall tabs, tall tabs are for companies who cant properly make a front flipper.
    The beauty of a front flipper is that opening is fun, and a lot of different options. The bonus is that you have 100% useable blade surface, not studs, holes, mill slots and disks to get in the way of cutting chores! Plus, there is just something about a clean blade with great shape.
    It takes some work to make a beautiful front flipper that operates well, and is still solid in every way. There are a few makers who have done it perfectly...I wont mention who.
    That being said, I have a highly modified Kizer Feist which was my first front flipper...only issue for me is that its a touch small, and the detent is so strong. Overly strong. Also, bearings on a FF are meh. Dial it in with PB washers and I’ll buy it all day long. Put a 3.15-3.25” blade in it and you’ve got a winner.

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  18. T.L.E. Sharp

    T.L.E. Sharp Oatmeal Pecan is better than Chocolate-chip. Platinum Member

    Jun 30, 2016
    Who is it you're trying to sell it to? The sort of buyer you'll find on Bladeforums likely has several knives in their possession already.

    We don't necessarily need a "one size fits all" solution with multiple opening methods. We've got flippers, studs and thumb holes. We can afford to have more focused designs in our rotation and will likely be more interested in a specific design language and aesthetic than the prospect of fidget versatility.

    I'd like that knife a lot more if you'd left off all three of those opening methods, dropped the spine close to flush with the handle and used a thumb disk. Just my personal preference. Having a tab, thumb hole hump and studs just reads as muddy and likely heavier than necessary.
     
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  19. jp9mm

    jp9mm

    313
    Apr 1, 2019
    Yep this Maestro is nearly half a pound for 3.5" blade....Off my list right there... It does have a really nice look to it tho.
    The problem with some multi-deployment is that one or all of the methods suffer for the sake of adding more options.
    I prefer a tab & hole deployment over thumbstud as well ... a new example the SBD Void is a perfect blend and great deployment either way.
    I like front flippers as well.

    P.S Stop drilling lanyard holes in handles, use the backspacer or none.... Thanks!
     
  20. LG&M

    LG&M

    Dec 19, 2005
    Fixed blades are fun to open.
     
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