What Puukkos Do You Like?

DeadboxHero said:
Custom stuff, Malanika
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I can not afford to buy Malanika so I make one myself . . . :D
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DeadboxHero said:
The Benchmade is a hybrid between a Puukko and a Fallkniven.

I like the knife. Much thicker geometry though. Puukkos are thinner behind the edge.
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The Benchmade is really thick behind the edge. I think the geometry wastes the potential of 3V in that particular knife.
 
Kellam knives has been good to me. I buy the blanks and practice handles to make my own.
 
I disagree, it's 3v not 4v.

3v has less strength at thinner geometry, especially with a HT hardness designed to take full advantage of the toughness 3v offers and has a reputation for.


3v and other lower carbon .80% and under have less dislocations in the grains and can absorb more energy upon impact at a trade off with strength.
Less dislocations in the crystal grain allow structures in each grain to "move" with shock and stress making the steel more malleable versus if the grains had more dislocations they would hold shape better but fail more dramatically with a crack or chip.

A trade off

(Hence why S5 is tougher then 3v, but 3v has more strength and wear resistant carbides)
There are always caveats however,
Lower carbon, Lower alloy = Less dislocations=More energy absorbing = malleable = plastic deformity = to a certain point more rollling in use on thin geometries.

So its is very misunderstood. It's all a trade off

Toughness doesn't equal the stability we need for thinner geometry. We need strength.

A blend of the right alloy and hardness that can form stable microstructures with fine grain and fine carbides. (Doesn't need wear resistance)
.80 % carbon and up and 62rc and up

So the ultimate knife isn't raw toughness.
A knife is a cutting tool and thin geometry is what cuts.

It's important to point out the 200 puukko is a hybrid knife. Not a true puukko

So it can't be too thin or the guys that want hard use won't be able to play.

Skilled hands can always make the knife thinner but you can't add steel for a more durable blade.

The stock geometry is fine. It not obnoxious like other survival type knives that can only rely on geometry for toughness.

The stock geometry is thin enough to cut an apple with the edge pleatued, completely removed.

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My point is it's not too thick, it's balanced for many different users.

This is why custom knives florish, we can push it to the limits of performance for the right user, production has a bigger audience and the performance limits are held back by the lowest common user.




Puukkos need to be thinner though and can't take as much punishment because of it. A Puukko is a more task specific tool. The more a tool is specialized, the better performance in its area of use.


I'm happy to see Benchmade move in this direction the price is competive with a Mora garberg it costs about 40-50 dollars more but has a better sheath with dangler and fire steel loop, a superior steel, better handle and more customizable geometries.

It's really not fair to compare it to $300-$400 customs.
To the OP, like I said, go custom man.






Jhansenak47 said:
The Benchmade is really thick behind the edge. I think the geometry wastes the potential of 3V in that particular knife.
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There are many beautiful puukkos on the custom forum. They are often too big for my jurisdiction so I never jump, but they are tempting.
 
DeadboxHero said:
So it can't be too thin or the guys that want hard use won't be able to play.

Skilled hands can always make the knife thinner but you can't add steel for a more durable blade.

The stock geometry is fine. It not obnoxious like other survival type knives that can only rely on geometry for toughness.

The stock geometry is thin enough to cut an apple with the edge plateaued, completely removed.
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Fair enough. I still think it is still too thick for my preferences. I wish they would have put it around 61 RC and went with 75% of the current thickness behind the edge. I currently have the edge convexed and will probably leave it as is.
 
The Zieg said:
But if you want a traditional puukko, go with . . .

Roselli (carpenter's knife)

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Where are Roselli knives available for sale in US? I’ve had trouble tracking any of his knives down.
 
Yes, every production and mid tech knife I've ever bought has been too thick.

The only knives that aren't are custom.


Jhansenak47 said:
Fair enough. I still think it is still too thick for my preferences. I wish they would have put it around 61 RC and went with 75% of the current thickness behind the edge. I currently have the edge convexed and will probably leave it as is.
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The Tapio puukko is glorious, but since it hasn't been made for nearly 50 years it can be hard to find and/ or expensive. Cold Steel makes an ugly copy(Finn Bear) which I think is missing the point. Condor has just released their copy of the design. I haven't handled one, but they look much better than the CS offering.

For utilitarian, I think the Marttiini Lynx is really good. For beautiful, I think Wood Jewel makes a nice one. And then there's a host of custom makers.
 
E Entropy Warrior : to give a proper suggestion I'd first need to know what you plan to do with it, what are you looking for in terms of fit and finish and if you have steel preferences. Thus I would be able to narrow down better the options, rather than just throwing names in, since the same style of puukko, with same materials, but crafted by two different master bladesmith could cost either 85 or 330 €.
 
I have two of the Verusteleka terava puukkos. One 110mm length and the other 140mm in length. Both are excellent knives and are very low priced for what you get. Make sure you buy them with the scabbard, it is also excellent. The scabbard separately costs more than the knife. I can't say a bad thing about these knives. Good all around camp knives.
 
Being a fan of scandi grinds & puukkos myself, and having read through this thread, I went ahead and ordered the Roselli Carpenter in their UHC steel.

At the same time, I was browsing through the European retailer I was ordering from, and came across the Helle Bleja:
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I much prefer folding knives for my personal needs and uses, but I could never find one with a true scandi grind that I liked. Enzo makes a few, but they all have one serious flaw or another that killed them for me - I've probably bought the Birk 75 at least four times trying to like it, but never did. This one, on the other hands, looks very promising - appears to be a true scandi, ergonomic handle, solid locking mechanism, etc. The steel could be better ("stainless" at 59HRC), but then Fallkniven seems to do well with their VG-10, so I can't knock it before trying it.

Anyway, it should be here in a week or so...
 
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