What should I do about this transaction?

supratentorial

supratentorial

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On 3-18-12, the buyer agreed to buy 3 knives totaling $220 and sent a PM requesting payment by Cashier's Check. I returned the PM providing my mailing address and the buyer sent a PM saying that he'd get the payment in the mail.

On 3-28-12, I attempted to contact the buyer but PM and email were now both disabled in his profile. I left the buyer a message on his profile page.

As of today (4-3-12), the buyer has not responded and payment has not been received. He's logged in almost daily since the message on his profile page but he hasn't posted. His last login was yesterday.

Should I relist the knives? Should I leave negative feedback?
 
I would consider that a welch and relist the knives.

I would probably leave a negative aswell since the buyer couldnt even man up and reply to you messages after logging in every single day.
 
I'd send another message saying you're going to repost the knives in 24 hours (not that you should, that's just what I'd do). I wouldn't leave negative feedback. JMO.
 
I would relist and leave negative feedback.

I know that some feel that this wasn't a completed transaction, but people who break their word and are too cowardly to man-up need to be known so that future people are warned.

I know a few bad members here have posted several "I'll take it!" but then disappear when it comes time to pay -they need to be stopped from wasting other peoples' time.
 
I'd move on and re-list. If the cashier's check ever shows up, just return it.

I don't think that warrants a negative, but I wouldn't do business with that person again.
 
I've never left a negative before and would prefer to keep it that way but I suppose the feedback system is only useful if people report when transactions aren't completed as promised. In general, it seems much more is expected of the seller than the buyer. I'm on the fence. He does actually have a negative as a buyer within the last 12 months: "Said 'I’ll take it', gave excuses with no payment for 10 days, cancelled."
 
Negative feedback and relist. The person is ducking you. If they are logged in daily, if there was a problem, i'm certain they would have gone to the FS thread and posted a message if they were just having issues with PMs and email. Since they've made no attempt at contact, they broke a deal, which means negative feedback. Hell, I'd leave it twice if I could.

EDIT: I've read since I posted mine they have previous negative feedback for essentially the same thing. Ding that man with some negative.
 
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ndeezl said:
I'd send another message saying you're going to repost the knives in 24 hours (not that you should, that's just what I'd do). I wouldn't leave negative feedback. JMO.
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I'm not as vindictive or quick to rush to righteous indignation as I used to be. Sounds like your buyer may have more going on that just "what's your EDC today". I would be worried about being ducked or avoided if he still had his PM and email working and he just didn't respond. Something big may have happened in his life and a knife purchase isn't part of the picture for him. Not saying he handled it right with you, but it doesn't hurt to give a fellow blade brother the benefit of a doubt.

I like the idea of a last warning and relist. No harm, no foul. A few more minutes out of your day not doubt, but working yourself up and firing out with a lot of anger because you are pissed off under the guise of "to make sure others are warned" surely isn't worth your time or heartburn.

Robert
 
supratentorial said:
On 3-18-12, the buyer agreed to buy 3 knives totaling $220 and sent a PM requesting payment by Cashier's Check. I returned the PM providing my mailing address and the buyer sent a PM saying that he'd get the payment in the mail.

On 3-28-12, I attempted to contact the buyer but PM and email were now both disabled in his profile. I left the buyer a message on his profile page.

As of today (4-3-12), the buyer has not responded and payment has not been received. He's logged in almost daily since the message on his profile page but he hasn't posted. His last login was yesterday.

Should I relist the knives? Should I leave negative feedback?
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you should email him and keep the email asking him if he had run into a problem in the buying and if he does not respond the leave a negative and put the knifes back up for sale and try to bann him from buying any thing else from you again for life. that is what I am doing on another site.
 
Our prior communication was via private message but unfortunately I can't contact him by private message or email any longer since he has disabled both in his profile. The best I could do is post on his profile page.
 
you can post in your sale thread that if you have not heard from "user x" in 24 hours the item will be back up for sale so if anyone else is interested they should post up their "seconds" now.
 
supratentorial said:
Our prior communication was via private message but unfortunately I can't contact him by private message or email any longer since he has disabled both in his profile. The best I could do is post on his profile page.
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then put them up again for sale and give him a bad a$$ negative so every one else knows what he did to you and they dont want to deal with him at all. by the way what are the knife you where selling him??
 
If you do post negative feedback, do it in a FEEDBACK thread. Do not post it in iTrader -- that's only for completed deals.

You've waited long enough. Relist the knives in a new thread since it looks like it is over the 14 day waiting period.
 
If something bad has happened in his life, all he had to do is apologize and back out with regret. It could happen to anybody. But at least you would know where you stand, remaining silent and disabling contact methods is not right, insulting frankly. Let us have a shot at those knives again:D:thumbup:
 
Esav Benyamin said:
If you do post negative feedback, do it in a FEEDBACK thread. Do not post it in iTrader -- that's only for completed deals.

You've waited long enough. Relist the knives in a new thread since it looks like it is over the 14 day waiting period.
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I wish I understood this...
 
^^ He just means to start a new thread in the Good, Bad, and Ugly section of the Exchange about the guy. iTrader (which is what actually leaves feedback on a users profile) is evidently just for completed deals. This however raise the question of what is considered a "completed deal". If I send a guy $100 for a knife and he never sends me anything that's not a "completed deal", but I'm definitely gonna leave negative feedback. Bit of a grey area that could use more definition if you ask me.
 
For those that said the seller should contact the buyer one last time and give him 24 hours to respond dont you think thats a little above and beyond? I could see doing this if there was a known problem on the buyers end or they have been MIA for weeks, but its obvious the buyer is avoiding the seller since he logs on everyday and disabled his PM's and messages. I believe his actions warrant a negative feedback personally. The seller has held $200 worth of goods on the buyers behalf for several weeks and how does the buyer repay him: by avoiding him and not even having the decency to respond to a simple email. Why not leave a negative to warn future sellers of his past actions, especially since this is the second time its happened?
 
Thanks for the discussion, guys. It was helpful. The negative he received for a prior transaction also helps me come to a conclusion. As far as this transaction goes, I'm going to move on. I haven't decided if I will post a bad buyer thread. I think a lot of people just check iTrader feedback before selling to a buyer. Also, I don't want to start another active discussion. I do think ndeezl has a good point. In that example, money or goods has exchanged hands. Which is somewhat different. But also, I think that much much more is expected of sellers than buyers. Personally, I think buyers should be equally accountable. For the most part, I have had good experiences buying/selling/trading on Bladeforums. And I view many of the members here as friends. I don't know the buyer in this instance. I hope he is well and I hope another seller doesn't find himself in the same situation.
 
supratentorial said:
Thanks for the discussion, guys. It was helpful. The negative he received for a prior transaction also helps me come to a conclusion. As far as this transaction goes, I'm going to move on. I haven't decided if I will post a bad buyer thread. I think a lot of people just check iTrader feedback before selling to a buyer. Also, I don't want to start another active discussion. I do think ndeezl has a good point. In that example, money or goods has exchanged hands. Which is somewhat different. But also, I think that much much more is expected of sellers than buyers. Personally, I think buyers should be equally accountable. For the most part, I have had good experiences buying/selling/trading on Bladeforums. And I view many of the members here as friends. I don't know the buyer in this instance. I hope he is well and I hope another seller doesn't find himself in the same situation.
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:thumbup::thumbup:
 
Esav Benyamin said:
If you do post negative feedback, do it in a FEEDBACK thread. Do not post it in iTrader -- that's only for completed deals.

You've waited long enough. Relist the knives in a new thread since it looks like it is over the 14 day waiting period.
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^^^^THIS^^^^

Its how I'd handle the situation. Let the forum know but don't post in ITrader.
 
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