What Should I Do?

i wouldn't give a crap who made the knife three years is crazy i could build a couple of custom cars in that time... save the money... from what i have read here it really doesn't seem like he cares anyway

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DERRANGED i have contortions and i play the games i have alcholic seizures when i'm driving ya sure i hit one of those and knocked my front tire off into outer space and i kinda got angry cause the cops through me in the paddy wagon and beat me to death hey ya got to have a lot of knives ?? ya i like salads.... with baked potatos cream cheese and chives ya i'd like salad right now why do ya have something in mind
 
Dave

It should be pointed out that Ernie's knives are not the only ones that garner long waits and higher secondary market pricing.

I never said there was anything wrong with making a profit or trading up. I completely understand, and have been a willing participant, in the "Supply and Demand" system.

But again, it amazes me the number of posting about people getting on Ernie's wait list with the intent of sell it for two to three times it's retail.

I try to be objective, but it's hard to respect this . . . practice.

I've listened to people bad mouth the "cost" of Emerson customs, <u>while</u> their selling CQC6s for $1300+.

I've listened to people poor mouthing Ernie, saying he's charging the $1300+ for knives that should be going for $500+. Ernie doesn't set secondary market pricing, buyers and sellers do.

I wish everyone that wanted a knife could get one at a good price and reasonable wait. I just have a hard time condoning someone <u>only</u> interested in turning a profit.

I've noticed that even when one of the usual suspects who really love their Emerson's sells one, they gat the same price as those just in it for cash, so what's the difference?
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Your right, it does happen. Emerson collectors do buy, sell and trade customs. But few, if any, of the collectors turn a profit (believe it . . or not).

I can tell you from personal experience that most of these knives go for very close to what the collector has into them. Collectors are bound by the same rules and costs as people getting their first custom on the secondary market. We have to buy from profiteers too.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a "Usual Suspect" and collector that didn't take it in the shorts to get a piece to fill in their collection. I have one piece that I'll never get out of it what I have into it, but I wanted it.

One thing you don't see is the moving of customs behind the scenes. Many of us are in contact off the forums and have traded, bought and sold amongst ourselves.

For the record, my six isn't for sale right now (nor are any of my customs, Emerson or otherwise). Probably won't be (pending me finding "that special piece" that I can't live without). But if it did grow legs, I'm into it right and a deal could probably be had by the right collector. I appreciate the offer though.
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OKG - I don't know what you should do. Granted, there is enormous demand for these knives, however, this is just ****ty customer service, in my opinion.
 
John,
I've been waiting 3yrs for my "Leftie-6"
I don't particularly like being sent a form email as OKG has stated,but being told by Carrie another 41/2 to 5yrs really took me back, will i wait? the deposit was sent 3yrs ago and I AM A LEFTIE,and i always tell myself: "GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT"
just my $.01 worth
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JimBob
 
It seems to me the real complaint here is that Emerson tells you wait 3 yrs then after that he sends a form letter wait another 3 yrs. Regardless of what time you already waited. That isn't a discussion of whether the prices are fair, thats plain lack of integrity. He gives his word to OKG, then breaks it, where a mans word is his bond then Emerson has no integrity. He probably makes a damned fine knife but he is being unfair to his customer. especially if he sells some at knife shows for morethan OKG knife will cost. Thats just big ego stepping in over decency. I notice Emerson does not defend himself on the issue of why he sells knives at shows when hes got people waiting 3 times longer then he promised them. No reply tells a biiiig story by itself.
 
okg- i havent bothered to read all these posts,i know theres a variety of answers for your question. when you ask a community of nearly 8,500 people what to do in this situation,youre going to get tons of different responses.so im not going to throw in my .02 . what you should is, do what YOU think you should do.if you think you should stick with it,and buy the knife,then do it.if youre going to pass on it,give him a call.you have been more than pacient after all.or,,,,yiou could just give it to me
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whatever you do,good luck solving your dilema
 
To Maurice: The reason I started the thread was that this is my first custom knife; experience has taught me that if I'm having problems, there are probably others going through the same fate. I buy a lot of custom guns from Terry Tussey, and he takes my telephone calls, but that's an association that goes back 20 years. Ernie doesn't know me. If the posters would have said, "I know Ernie, and if this is happening to you it's because his staff hasn't told him," then I would have taken a different approach. Plus, I vascilate on the issue; one minute I'm ticked, the next minute I'm okay waiting. After following the posts, I think I'm getting jerked around and I responded to Carrie yesterday and asked for a personal accounting.--OKG
 
The saga continues: As you know, I wrote a terse but sincere response to Carrie about the 'form' E-mail I received. Carrie informed me that I must be 'confused,' as Mr. Emerson only fills orders in chronological order--except for those 'few' custom knives he sells at shows. I'm hurt, I'm bitter, and I realize where my patronage falls on his list. What do you guys think of this: I 'own' CQC-7 as represented by Ernie's invoice/work-order #1089. Can I 'sell' it to the highest bidder, and give the money to Darrel Ralph? What forum do I use? Is that considered ethical? Is ethics even an issue here...?--OKG
 
I think ethics are at issue here, but not Yours. Sadly, I have heard this story from many other people before regarding Mr. Emerson. Only you can decide what to do. Makers with multi-year waiting lists who sell Lots of knives at shows are doing a great disservice to their customers and their own reputations. Maintaining a show presence is important for makers, even if they have a long wait list. But maintaining lists that are several years long is insane and unfair.

Paracelsus, who will Never own an EE knife
 
To Paracelsus: Thank you for the reply. I place a very high price on ethics, and several knuts have expressed interest in 'taking my place in line.' This is no longer a case of buying a quality knife for personal use, but a matter of a dissatisfied customer. I have no doubt that some forum member here will give me +1,000 bucks hard earned money for my invoice; but I have no faith that the knife will ever be produced. What if Ernie has a car accident and dies? What if he only loses a hand in an industrial accident? These factors over time could make such a transaction worthless to the new 'owner.' In like manner, I am missing some great customs. My conscience is already smarting over these future problems.--OKG
 
I think thay an experience like yours is one that could make a person bitter and possibly mistrustful of custom knife makers in general. I hope that if you order a knife from Darrel Ralph, that you get it in a timely manner and that your faith is restored.
Best wishes in your future dealings.
By the way, I just ordered a knife from a different maker. I was told two years. Sure hope he is close.
 
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