What to do after washing Sebenza?

. Yeah, but you meet the manufacturer's minimum specs, that's not the same as using oil when CRK says to use grease. I bet you do not use oil to lube your ball joints :)

Auto engine oils have to meet certain API specs across the board, like SN.
As long as you use an oil that meets the spec. You good to go-
Since there is no spec for the CRK grease. How does one know IF their oil is insufficient in that aspect?
Apples to onions here.
LG
 
Gotta love it when a few guys argue about lube on a knife forum. :D

Use what you like, dont worry about the other guy.

Take it apart hourly, or never, or something in between.

It is your knife, just don't batan it through cinder blocks and complain about edge retention ;)
 
Air in a can bud, a little bit of that and you will be fine. However, this is a great reason/opportunity to take your 25 down and see what makes them tick. I guarantee that after you do you will never look at your knife the same, you will kind of fell like you conquered it, lol.

!00%. Blow it out well with a compressor or as stated - air in a can and leave it in the sun. Yes it needs to be serviced, but I don't think you need to do a disassembly every time it gets wet.
 
Gotta love it when a few guys argue about lube on a knife forum. :D

Use what you like, dont worry about the other guy.

Generally I agree with you... However, depending on what the intended use for the knife is, certain considerations should be made when selecting what lube to use on a pivot. For instance, if you are using a folding knife for a lot of food prep work, you might seriously want to consider using something safer than motor oil or WD40 to lube your pivot. The last thing you want to do is contaminate your food with dangerous chemicals. I've actually used olive oil as lube on a few of my knives and it's worked quite well.

Stay safe!
 
Generally I agree with you... However, depending on what the intended use for the knife is, certain considerations should be made when selecting what lube to use on a pivot. For instance, if you are using a folding knife for a lot of food prep work, you might seriously want to consider using something safer than motor oil or WD40 to lube your pivot. The last thing you want to do is contaminate your food with dangerous chemicals. I've actually used olive oil as lube on a few of my knives and it's worked quite well.

Stay safe!

With all due respect, how much lube are you using to really have these concerns?

I hear this sentiment a lot, and pardon me, but it seems ridiculous to be concerned about the lube in the pivot contacting the food you cut with the blade....wait for it....of a knife you carry around in your pants pocket!

Sorry, the MCLs for constituents of motor oil and WD-40 are pretty high relative to the risk of the pathogens likely to be found in your pockets this time of year.

Serioiusly, no offense intended. I just maintain that we worry a little too much about minutia some times. The pathogens in my pocket don't bother me much, nor does the residue from the last few cuts I made with the knife. Perhaps I'll drop dead some day from lube poisoning, but I am enjoying life, so I'll take my chances;)
 
Last edited:
With all due respect, how much lube are you using to really have these concerns?

I hear this sentiment a lot, and pardon me, but it seems ridiculous to be concerned about the lube in the pivot contacting the food you cut with the blade....wait for it....of a knife you carry around in your pants pocket!

Sorry, the MCLs for constituents of motor oil and WD-40 are pretty high relative to the risk of the pathogens likely to be found in your pockets this time of year.

I don't use that much lube at all really. Just a light coating. And perhaps you're right, maybe it is ridiculous.

I'm sure there are thousands and thousands of people who have prepared food with pocket knives that have a 'non-food-safe' lubricant in the pivot (I know I have), and have experienced zero issues as a result. I'm just saying it might be worth consideration for folks that are using their folding knife to do a lot of food prep.

There are a few folders that I use quite a bit around the kitchen and I guess I sleep better at night knowing that I'm not using any dangerous chemicals in the pivot. It may not make a difference even if I didn't but I prefer to err on the side of caution.
 
I know it's "a knife" and I might be over thinking this, but this is my first Sebenza and I'm curious what others would do.

Used my brand new Sebenza 25 around the kitchen yesterday (and it really cuts nice) and it got covered in food. I rinsed it off with hot water and let it dry for an hour or so before putting it back in my pocket. It doesn't feel as smooth as before. Do I need to disassemble it and re-apply the supplied grease, or can I just put a drop of CLP in the pivot area and leave it be? Or should I just leave it alone?

Because of the tight tolerances I don't just "add lube" to the pivot area but, if lubrication is necessary I'll disassemble the knife to get the lube inside the bronze washers where it belongs. One thing I like about the CRK grease (and similar products) is it doesn't migrate and make the rest of the blade sticky.

Once lubed your knife should be able to be washed a number of times before you "wash" out the lubrication. All that lube outside the joint and washers does is collect lint.
 
Last month, traveling for the holidays I found myself on the train to the Portland International Airport when I realized I still had my Snakewood Mnandi in my pocket. What to do?! I could have shipped it back to myself, but the Portland Airport didn't have packaging available at the time. Next best solution? Bury the knife outside. So that's what I did.

I came back three days later, dug it out from the cold, water soaked dirt and put it back in my pocket. The knife was perfect except for a small amount of rust that formed around the ricasso where it rests against the stop-pin (when closed).

At the end of the day these are knives, not Faberge eggs.
 
Last month, traveling for the holidays I found myself on the train to the Portland International Airport when I realized I still had my Snakewood Mnandi in my pocket. What to do?! I could have shipped it back to myself, but the Portland Airport didn't have packaging available at the time. Next best solution? Bury the knife outside. So that's what I did.

I came back three days later, dug it out from the cold, water soaked dirt and put it back in my pocket. The knife was perfect except for a small amount of rust that formed around the ricasso where it rests against the stop-pin (when closed).

At the end of the day these are knives, not Faberge eggs.

Hahaha that is awesome! Respect!
 
Auto engine oils have to meet certain API specs across the board, like SN.
As long as you use an oil that meets the spec. You good to go-
Since there is no spec for the CRK grease. How does one know IF their oil is insufficient in that aspect?
Apples to onions here.
LG

The "spec," which is actually a recommendation rather than a requirement, is for CRK grease, not some package of industrial standards. CRK does not recommend oil of any type, so you're on your own. How about this? ;)

mobil-delvac-synthetic-gear-oil-75w-90.jpg
 
I wash my Sebenzas all the time under the kitchen faucet (at least once a day after food prep at lunch etc). I do nothing to them afterwards other than make a generally lame attempt to shake out the water and wipe it down with a towel. My goal is shaking out the water is keep my pocket dry. I do not lube them unless I disassemble them. They do not not rust, either the blade or pivot steel, nor the fasteners. All of my CRKs are users and they get washed often, and likely put in pocket damp, so if any rust was going to form, I believe it would have shown itself by now. If I were to use it in salt water, I might wash it longer is all.

My advice.....don't worry about it. It's truly a stainless steel knife, and S35VN is very corrosion resistant. It is one of the design features of a Sebenza is that they are highly corrosion resistant (as stated by Chris Reeve in the Blade HQ Videos....he actually seemed pretty serious about that point specifically). If you are spending a lot of time worrying about washing your Sebenza, and fiddling with it afterwards, you are missing out on some of it's beauty, unless you enjoy fussing over your knife, which some do, and I get that. I have heard the DT damascus is less so, so you might need to care more in that situation.


DSCF8523_zpse2e48c78.jpg
 
Thanks for the replies everyone.

I decided to not worry about it. After opening and closing it a bunch, it's smoother than ever.

I didn't even use any oil in the pivot, and will continue to just use it with whatever grease is still in there.
 
I would like to ask a few questions for clarification.

When you folks say you use your folders for food prep, is that just fancy speak for "we had brick of cheese and a sausage at work, so I cut it up with my pocket knife"?

Or do you mean you enter your kitchen and process everything for a full on family meal with your pocket knife....which makes me ask, have you ever tried a proper kitchen knife? We all love our pocket knives, and perhaps some of the zealots among us have prepared a full meal this way ONCE, but are some of you claiming to do this frequently !?!

Further, when you say you wash it off in water after, (and perhaps before?) food prep, do you mean, "I clean the blade in soapy water, taking care to not get soapy water (like Dawn, that is know for its ability to "take grease out of your way") into the pivot, because I also took care to not get food in the pivot", or do you mean, "I dunk and scrub the sucker in soapy water and celan everything because I also got food all up in the pivot and slabs (and in the process, I potentially remove my oil/grease from the pivot)"

To each their own...I can see processing small game in the woods and making a mess of things...because that happens....but how often really? And while that is processing food, its pretty far down the list of processes prior to eating...so I'd really call it processing an animal, and not food....but that is semantics perhaps, but I ask anyway because it seems like some concepts are getting confused with others....regardless, the lube used in the pivot of a knife during game processing is pretty immaterial to health and safety considering you will be cleaning the meat after you introduce any contaminants (such as the toxic lead pullet/shot you may have used to down the animal?).

The point I am headed toward making is: CRK and others makes some nice kitchen knives that are actually designed to prepare foor in the kitchen, and clean up easily without concerns of lube, or pivot damage...AND these knives cost less than the folders....AND they work a lot better for this type of cutting because they have geometry and ergonomics optimized ENTIRELY for these tasks (rather than a pile of compromises to the ergos to make the knife HIGHLY versatile for every other task that most people do...including folding).

If you are processing game (fish, squirrels, deer, whatever) then yeah, you might make a mess, and perhaps want to clean the blood out of the pivot if you think some entered because blood often interacts with metals a little more than water, and it can carry pathogens of all sorts. BUT once again, if you are doing this VERY often, you would may be enjoy a better suited product for the task (such as one of the CRK fixed blades). Once again, easier and less work to clean up, better ergos, yadda yadda yadda. Sure, I might choose to use my Sebenza for the handful of times I process a small animal in a year, but if I am doing it with any regularity, or if my boys catch a LOT of fish and we are going to fillet them....No, my intelligence level dictates that I use a better suited tool for the job.

A Sebenza is a great knife for a lot of tasks, but lets not let our zeal for this knife blind us to common sense.

Or not, it is your knife and your life...it just seems like silliness to deny yourself the pleasures of specialized knives that make your life easier. My Sebenza is not that much of a jealous witch!
 
When I mention food prep at lunch, I mean at work. I can't pack a kitchen knife around (:eek:), so my sebenza gets used mainly to cut up fruit (apples, oranges, etc) after which it gets washed in the sink if required. With a small sebenza you do end up with apple bits and orange juice in the pivot area. I do not worry about contaminating my food with the pivots lube as there is no lube outside the pivot. I usually coat the sebenza in hand soap if it's particularly messy.

I have nice kitchen knives for making meals, and personally would not buy one of the CRK designed Sikayo kitchen knives for the exact reasons you have described unit. The CRK method of bolting to hand slabs to the protruding blade leaves too many areas that I feel could harbour disease: IE in the hex head of the fasteners, in the crevice that runs around both handle slabs, under the slabs themselves, in the routered areas under the slab for the logo etc, and around the holes for the fasteners. The Sikayo actually kinda grosses me out as a kitchen knife because of that handle design.
 
I would like to ask a few questions for clarification.

When you folks say you use your folders for food prep, is that just fancy speak for "we had brick of cheese and a sausage at work, so I cut it up with my pocket knife"?

Or do you mean you enter your kitchen and process everything for a full on family meal with your pocket knife....which makes me ask, have you ever tried a proper kitchen knife? We all love our pocket knives, and perhaps some of the zealots among us have prepared a full meal this way ONCE, but are some of you claiming to do this frequently !?!

Further, when you say you wash it off in water after, (and perhaps before?) food prep, do you mean, "I clean the blade in soapy water, taking care to not get soapy water (like Dawn, that is know for its ability to "take grease out of your way") into the pivot, because I also took care to not get food in the pivot", or do you mean, "I dunk and scrub the sucker in soapy water and celan everything because I also got food all up in the pivot and slabs (and in the process, I potentially remove my oil/grease from the pivot)"

To each their own...I can see processing small game in the woods and making a mess of things...because that happens....but how often really? And while that is processing food, its pretty far down the list of processes prior to eating...so I'd really call it processing an animal, and not food....but that is semantics perhaps, but I ask anyway because it seems like some concepts are getting confused with others....regardless, the lube used in the pivot of a knife during game processing is pretty immaterial to health and safety considering you will be cleaning the meat after you introduce any contaminants (such as the toxic lead pullet/shot you may have used to down the animal?).

The point I am headed toward making is: CRK and others makes some nice kitchen knives that are actually designed to prepare foor in the kitchen, and clean up easily without concerns of lube, or pivot damage...AND these knives cost less than the folders....AND they work a lot better for this type of cutting because they have geometry and ergonomics optimized ENTIRELY for these tasks (rather than a pile of compromises to the ergos to make the knife HIGHLY versatile for every other task that most people do...including folding).

If you are processing game (fish, squirrels, deer, whatever) then yeah, you might make a mess, and perhaps want to clean the blood out of the pivot if you think some entered because blood often interacts with metals a little more than water, and it can carry pathogens of all sorts. BUT once again, if you are doing this VERY often, you would may be enjoy a better suited product for the task (such as one of the CRK fixed blades). Once again, easier and less work to clean up, better ergos, yadda yadda yadda. Sure, I might choose to use my Sebenza for the handful of times I process a small animal in a year, but if I am doing it with any regularity, or if my boys catch a LOT of fish and we are going to fillet them....No, my intelligence level dictates that I use a better suited tool for the job.

A Sebenza is a great knife for a lot of tasks, but lets not let our zeal for this knife blind us to common sense.

Or not, it is your knife and your life...it just seems like silliness to deny yourself the pleasures of specialized knives that make your life easier. My Sebenza is not that much of a jealous witch!

As perfect of a response as any I have seen pertaining to this subject!
 
Cody, The CRK kitchen knives are not my top choice either, but I thought it would be bad form to mention any other maker by name;) Point being, there is much pleasure to be had from using a well designed kitchen knife for those types of duties.
 
Cody, The CRK kitchen knives are not my top choice either, but I thought it would be bad form to mention any other maker by name;) Point being, there is much pleasure to be had from using a well designed kitchen knife for those types of duties.

I think we are on the same page Unit. My reason for contributing to this thread is that sometimes I think Sebenza ownership is presented as somehow more complicated than owning other knives to folks new to the brand. My point is CRK folders thrive on neglect compared to most, although they are nice to covet as well.
 
I use big and small knives in the kitchen. I don't use my small sebenza to chop onions, but do use it to slice garlic, take the back out of a chicken and make the holes to hold in the legs and wings so it is suitable for bbq middle eastern style. The sebenza has a utility shape. I also drink mixed drinks, and the sebenza is a good bar knife as well.

With nasty stuff, I rinse it under hot water and wash it in my hands with Dr Bonners, getting up a good foam, rinse with hot water and dry with a towell. Then back in the pocket. Please do not tell me it is "unsanitary". I don't have that phobia...but clowns! :)
 
Back
Top