What to think..... The Polarizing Cap Lifter blade!

A Cap Lifter?

  • A Caplifter? Yes please!

    Votes: 3 75.0%
  • A Caplifter? Absolutely not!

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A Caplifter? Maybe.

    Votes: 1 25.0%

  • Total voters
    4
I think we should all use our bottle openers/beerlows/top poppers etc and down a few rounds of tasty alcoholic beverage. It's Friday fer Pete's sake.

I'm going to see if I can make the news with my Victorinox black Alox Pioneer. Surely it can't be considered a tactical knife, most of the black coating has worn off.
 
I think we should all use our bottle openers/beerlows/top poppers etc and down a few rounds of tasty alcoholic beverage. It's Friday fer Pete's sake.

I'm going to see if I can make the news with my Victorinox black Alox Pioneer. Surely it can't be considered a tactical knife, most of the black coating has worn off.

Cheers! :) :thumbup:

No urban camo in stock? ;) :D
 
We both know Bill Howard did that as a joke Phil - in my opinion it was a stupid joke, but there you go ;)

A Peanut is simply a name for a small Serpentine Jack, Serpentine Jacks are of many forms - all of them being Serpentine of course! ;)

Sorry if you feel that my comments went too far Phil, they weren't directed at any one individual, but there does seem to have been some agreement with my expressed view. I don't recall you being so sensitive about other people's feelings when it comes to your innumerable "beerlow" posts, many of which may be meant light-heartedly with a spirit of good-hearted mischief, but which you know relate to an issue which has certainly caused upset here, and which some of us have strong feelings about, as well as misleading newcomers into thinking that it is a genuine pattern. Some other posters have been even less sensitive, and I can if necessary point you in the direction of a thread where a number of us were roundly abused and directly insulted by a passing, but vocal advocate of what I'm afraid I honestly regard as little short of an abomination, simply for answering his questions about traditional patterns. I'm sorry if you take offence with my posts, but in my opinion, it's a shame this subject has to come up again and again, and 'People who throw stones...' and all that :thumbup:

Different strokes for different folks, as they say. No hard feelings on my end.

How did that one go again? People who throw stones, should enter the Highland Games? :D

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I appreciate your response. Cheers, Jack!
 
Cheers! :) :thumbup:

No urban camo in stock? ;) :D

Different strokes for different folks, as they say. No hard feelings on my end.

How did that one go again? People who throw stones, should enter the Highland Games? :D

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I appreciate your response. Cheers, Jack!

I was trying to fall asleep last night, and was watching the Duck Dynasty episode when they went to Scotland. They participated in the Highland Games.

Just my mind wired differently, remembered camo, in town, during the games.

I need to top one off when I get home... :D

The urban camo would probably blend right in!
 
Different strokes for different folks, as they say. No hard feelings on my end.

How did that one go again? People who throw stones, should enter the Highland Games? :D

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I appreciate your response. Cheers, Jack!

No, same here Phil, absolutely :thumbup:

LOL! :D :thumbup:
 
I was trying to fall asleep last night, and was watching the Duck Dynasty episode when they went to Scotland. They participated in the Highland Games.

Just my mind wired differently, remembered camo, in town, during the games.

I need to top one off when I get home... :D

The urban camo would probably blend right in!

LOL! I REMEMBER that episode! :D :thumbup:
 
Historically, screwdrivers or combination cap lifters and screwdrivers are as traditional as other features of knives. And patterns like the radio knives or beer scouts are at least as relevant or more relevant to our lives today than some other traditional knives that have been "rebirthed".

Peened pins are an Achilles heel for traditional knives. Twisting with a screwdriver on a "beer scout", a leather punch on a harness jack, or even a knife blade can loosen up the peened pin on a traditional knife. It's not that difficult to repair most of the time. Victorinox's riveted construction is a bit stronger than the peened pin construction on other traditional knives. But really these tools are best used within limits. Past those limits, it's best to use a fixed blade, dedicated screwdriver or dedicated awl.
 
I like a cap-lifter (round here, it's a bottle-opener) on an appropriate knife. That being something along the lines of a small SAK, the Beer Scout (love it, but could do without "Beer Scout" on the shield) and a small EDC-type folding knife, say no larger than a GEC #77. The SAK in whatever flavor you choose is the essential EDC. The Beer Scout is a party/barbecue/bar/drinks on the deck knife. The screw-driver actually gets used more often, but the cap lifter is there when that beer appears and needs to be dealt with. :)

Don't really see any use for them on anything else. And if you don'b drink beer, they are probably useless, unless you are a devotee of locally made sodas, as just about everything else seems to come with a twist off cap, or (shudder...) in a can.
 
I find the contempt for all things bottle opener quite comical. I know some feel we are desecrating timeless designs but I think there is room for everybody. I am just happy people are buying whatever GEC makes. Not all of their patterns tickle my fancy and the same is true for everyone else.

I frankly don't care what Charlie comes up with for the forum knife....I just want something different and a scout pattern fits that bill.

I personally don't care for the lambs foot (I think the blade shape is to similar to the sheepsfoot on the 13 knife) but if that is what is produced, that's cool, I will still buy one because it is the forum knife.

Most of what we carry in our pocket is not about needs, it is about wants. Most of us could get by with no knife at all in our daily activities.

I rarely drink beer or any other bottled beverage but my 2011 forum knife and my modified barlow with a church key are among my most favorite knives. I just enjoy carrying them. They are not essential to my life.

Let's be thankful for what we have which is looking like a 2016 forum knife, bottle opener or not.

That is enough serious talk so bask in the glory of the beerlow (the best barlow never made):

 
I remember an old story that may be germane to this kind of a discussion:

It seems there was an order of monks, that had all taken a vow of utter silence. None of them ever, upon entering the monastery, nor ever after, uttered a single word. It was determined at some point by the hierarchy, (how they determined this if none of them spoke is another question), that possibly it would be a good idea to allow one monk to speak one sentence every year.

The first year, a monk was chosen, and he mounted a raised platform to bring forth what everyone assumed would be a profound statement. He said, "why must we have cabbage at every meal?" There was, of course, no verbal response, though all of the monks thought about what had been said.

The second year, the monk chosen said. "I like cabbage." Doubtless there were those who agreed, and those who did not, but nothing more was, or could be, said.

The third year, the statement was, "If this bickering does not cease, I will be forced to leave the monastery!"

I guess it doesn't take much to get an argument going.
 
I carry a traditional pattern knife because it gives me a choice of several cutting blades, each optimally shaped for a different cutting chore.

I carry a mini-pry bar on my key chain that I bought for $6 at a big box hardware store. It has a bottle opener on it and several screwdriver-surfaces.

So for me a screwdriver blade or screwdriver/bottle opener blade would not be desirable and would be something to be eschewed.

synonyms: abstain from, refrain from, forgo, shun, renounce, steer clear of, have nothing to do with

In a word, "NO."

Sooo what you are saying -just to clarify-is "avoid like the plague"?:D
I'm partly with you Frank. Mainly because I have problems trying screw stuff with real screwdrivers and don't ever hand me a tech gun/cordless screw gun.
 
I carry a traditional pattern knife because it gives me a choice of several cutting blades, each optimally shaped for a different cutting chore.

I carry a mini-pry bar on my key chain that I bought for $6 at a big box hardware store. It has a bottle opener on it and several screwdriver-surfaces.

So for me a screwdriver blade or screwdriver/bottle opener blade would not be desirable and would be something to be eschewed.

synonyms: abstain from, refrain from, forgo, shun, renounce, steer clear of, have nothing to do with

In a word, "NO."

Rather than carry a "mini pry bar-combination bottle opener-combination several screwdriver surfaces /anchor" on my keychain, I would rather have one small tool that will do all those things tucked in alongside my favorite blade profile in a nice little pocketknife.
Maybe I'm just a knife nut. lol...To each his own.:thumbup:
In a word- "Handy"
 
Rather than carry a "mini pry bar-combination bottle opener-combination several screwdriver surfaces /anchor" on my keychain, I would rather have one small tool that will do all those things tucked in alongside my favorite blade profile in a nice little pocketknife.
Maybe I'm just a knife nut. lol...To each his own.:thumbup:
In a word- "Handy"

You missed the first paragraph. I carry a traditional pattern because I like having a selection of blade shapes. I got other ways of carrying handy tools. I pretty much only carry one source of cutting edges.
 
I remember an old story that may be germane to this kind of a discussion:

It seems there was an order of monks, that had all taken a vow of utter silence. None of them ever, upon entering the monastery, nor ever after, uttered a single word. It was determined at some point by the hierarchy, (how they determined this if none of them spoke is another question), that possibly it would be a good idea to allow one monk to speak one sentence every year.

The first year, a monk was chosen, and he mounted a raised platform to bring forth what everyone assumed would be a profound statement. He said, "why must we have cabbage at every meal?" There was, of course, no verbal response, though all of the monks thought about what had been said.

The second year, the monk chosen said. "I like cabbage." Doubtless there were those who agreed, and those who did not, but nothing more was, or could be, said.

The third year, the statement was, "If this bickering does not cease, I will be forced to leave the monastery!"

I guess it doesn't take much to get an argument going.


Speaking from the floor where I landed,
":D:D:D"
 
A caplifter, like a can opener, is not a blade I have much use for. i have several knives with this feature and frankly, I never carry them because a small blade that actually cuts is so very much more useful.
 
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