What was your first true custom knife?

Any time you ask a maker to make a knife for you, it is custom, any 2 knives are not the same from a custom maker. Also, for the most part I sell handmade knives, from custom makers, not true custom knives, all I asked was peoples first knives ordered from a custom maker, so don't try and turn it into something it's not Para. You don't want to get into a pissing contest with me. Believe it!

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Paul
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Para,
I didn't read what you said as that way. Why ask Kelly if it was a True Custom knife?
Seems like he said that in his post....

Mob mentality? What the heck is that? A couple people disagree with what you say and that is a mob?
 
This thread has gotten off track, I tried to be concise with my first message of the thread, was mistunderstood.
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[This message has been edited by viper5192 (edited 02-28-2001).]
 
Mr. Viper (that is a nasty poisonous serpent, no?), you slung the first insult in this thread. I am merely pointing out that You, like Les Robertson, have a major interest in preserving the value of your investment and business. As a dealer in Custom knives, you better be careful about what that word means. If you sell Handmade knives, why does the name of your business include the name CUSTOM?

I must be seriously confused. I am obviously stupid enough to have gotten into a battle of wits with folks who are a lot smarter than me. Excuse me, please.
 
Hmm. . . well I have yet to put up my makers bios and pix waiting on them. In that section there will be a way for people to communicate with the makers and if they so desire have knives made for them. If you take me so literally, why am I even posting to this Custom Knife Forum?

Actually you have no clue about my business model OR my business. The numerous makers, national and international who wish to join my site, or are interested in it, seem to think I have something going. Sorry about the Get Bent remark was impolitic, true coming from me.
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[This message has been edited by viper5192 (edited 02-28-2001).]

[This message has been edited by viper5192 (edited 02-28-2001).]
 
Para. you are way out of line. Did you not see the smiley added to the get bent line? No where in Paul's post did he say handmade knives were not "custom." He clarified is point by asking what knife you first had a maker do for you. He never even said Kelly's knife was not a "true" custom. I think telling people not to buy from him was very tasteless and rude. You have a real problem with trying to stir things up all the time. You need to grow up and learn your opinion is not the only correct one. I have talked to Paul a few times and he is a great guy. You took things way out of text here and crossed the line. I personally feel you owe Paul an appology. Your comments were really uncalled for.
 
Well, with all the 'debate' I dont know if my DeLeon constitutes a custom or not. Its a standard model, but the handle material was chosen from my dads private stock, and used on the knife.

Anyways, Para, you know as well as I do that folks dont agree about everything. You also know that not everybody is as 'sensitive' as you are. Im not sure what you are so worked up over, and I suppose I dont really care. But, just because you dont get along with somebody personally is no reason to attack thier business practice when you have ABSOLUTELY no point of reference for it. Have you ever dealt with Paul? Has anybody you know ever been screwed by him? If you dont like his views on customs, fine...tell him you think he is wrong, but do not attack his business in such a way.

I have never dealt with Paul, nor have I read any bad things about his business practices. So, I would never be so low as to attack his business for NO reason at all. If I dont agree with him, I will tell him so while sticking to the subject at hand, no reason to bring his business or mine into it. Get a grip Para, folks disagree all the time, get used to it.



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Well, it would appear Para has edited his post, which of course would make my post look like the rantings of a madman. However, for the record, I believe that editing a post for anything but spelling or grammatical errors SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. Geez, if ya say something, LEAVE IT. Dont edit out the content just because ya stepped on your crank.....Think before you post, then be prepared for the fallout, dont change it just to hide from it.



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Geeze, I thought I was gunna see lotsa pretty pictures here
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Lighten up all, it takes 2 to argue!
Both of my "non-production/factory" knives have come off of a maker's (cutler's?) table...
But what I've got in the works...OH what I've got in the works...
That will be a custom, by any defination!
Smile Dagnabbit!!!
Ebbtide out.
 
Tell us more Ebb, you have my interest piqued now!!!

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Paul
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Have several custom folders, but am currently awaiting a special CFII that I ordered from Keith Coleman. Does some great work at fair prices, he does.

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That's the first time I've clicked on this thread, precisely because of the Para-type definitions
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FWIW, my 1 of 10 Pirela/Elishewitz Corallus was my first (and remains my favorite) custom.
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Mob mentality? I think someone is fueling the fire with their own agenda. We have been through this before.

The Guild Definition of a Custom knife seems to work for the industry. Let's use it here and leave the egos elsewhere.

(I may prefer the dictionary definition, but as far as I am concerned that is a personal matter and I come off as an elitist if I espouse it when it comes to knives).


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[This message has been edited by Gus Kalanzis (edited 02-28-2001).]
 
Gus, I am perturbed, have no clue what the guild definition of a custom knife is.
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Even with all the talk about it. Can you post it, so I know what it says??

Thanks

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Paul, Search this forum for the word Guild.
It will bring up hours of reading on the subject. I do not agree with everything Les says (just most of it). In this case (as ususal) he is right on.



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" The real art of living is to keep alive the longing in human beings to become greater versions of themselves." Laurens Van der Post in memory of James Mattis
 
Geez, Para. Lighten up. Take notice of all of the smilies in the posts. Here, have a pic:

<CENTER>Michael J. Smith Wharncliff Gent's Folder
<A HREF="http://home.carolina.rr.com/senator/images/Smith_Pearl_folder.jpg"><IMG SRC="http://home.carolina.rr.com/senator/images/Smith_Pearl_folder_small.jpg" border="3"></A></CENTER>

BTW - I think that one's a custom too.
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Kelly <-- Wishing Para was as much fun as he used to be.
 
Er, I'd say so! And bravo for you Kelly, you have bypassed the Photopoint system! All the rest of us who use Photopoint are twiddling our thumbs waiting for it to come back up so we can see our pix again. I don't know, think I want my money back!!
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Paul
Custom Knife Purveyor
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I take Paypal. ask me how??
Circle P Knives
 
Gus, the whole point of my post is that I agree with Les' use of the word custom. I posted the guild definition at the top of my long post.

Everyone seems to think I am on the other side here. That is disturbing. I am somehow failing miserably at communication. Viper keeps talking about special ordered custom knives. If you read his posts carefully, one would have to assume that the knives he sells are not custom knives, at least by the criteria he set for this thread. I do not think that is the case.

The confusion over what I am saying is very upsetting to me. Please read my comments more carefully. My question to Kelly about his Carson was supposed to be Ironic. Of course that knife is a custom knife. But it is also NOT the kind of knife that Viper was asking to hear about.

I give up...
 
Heck, Para, don't give up. After all, it may be you, Gus and the rest of us that finally answer the question. I doubt it since it seems an unanswerable one, but who knows?
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FWIW I have used the term cutler. Most people I tell that to just scratch their head until I tell them I'm a knifemaker.
 
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