What would you do if carrying a knife became illegal in your country?

I feel genuinely bad for those that want to get out, but can't. I understand the constraints of family, work, etc. I still have family and friends in CA...

I got out because: One, I believe the time will come when you CAN'T get out whether you want to or not. Two, as has been acknowledged, the laws are all over the place, and I'm not going to carry written copy of the various laws in my back pocket. Three, I flat out do not feel safe there, especially since the ability to defend one's self is severely compromised in my view.

But as is true with most things, I'll do me, you do you. We are all different with different outlooks, views, and opinions.

Indeed, stay safe out there.
 
Whisperstealth said:
I feel genuinely bad for those that want to get out, but can't. I understand the constraints of family, work, etc. I still have family and friends in CA...

I got out because: One, I believe the time will come when you CAN'T get out whether you want to or not. Two, as has been acknowledged, the laws are all over the place, and I'm not going to carry written copy of the various laws in my back pocket. Three, I flat out do not feel safe there, especially since the ability to defend one's self is severely compromised in my view.

But as is true with most things, I'll do me, you do you. We are all different with different outlooks, views, and opinions.

Indeed, stay safe out there.
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I did try really hard to leave a few years ago, but my wife wouldn't leave her family and I love being married to her! 😀

I totally agree with you. Self defense is almost completely outlawed here, even though the politicians try to pretend that's not the case. CCW is finally fairly easy to get here but the liability issues are insane. I personally believe everyone should always be armed, regardless.

Hey at least there's some potential - Bruen has started to help claw back some of our rights, so it won't be 'right this way, to jail' when we exercise them.
 
Where I live the law takes a very hard stance on carrying a knife. This includes having it in your back- or shoulder bag in the city, in public. You can get up to a year in jail or a large fine. This is because especially youths have started to carry knives quite regularly. You have to have a very good reason to have a knife, for example working in construction, trekking, hunting or fishing. Even then it is better to leave the knife in the car or bury it in the bottom of your back bag while being in public. This makes me think that even a Swiss army knife in shoulder bag can get me conviction. Best is looking respectable and not get into any trouble, but what if I have to defend myself and while investigating the police finds the pocket knife, even if I have not used it?
 
HFinn said:
Where I live the law takes a very hard stance on carrying a knife. This includes having it in your back- or shoulder bag in the city, in public. You can get up to a year in jail or a large fine. This is because especially youths have started to carry knives quite regularly. You have to have a very good reason to have a knife, for example working in construction, trekking, hunting or fishing. Even then it is better to leave the knife in the car or bury it in the bottom of your back bag while being in public. This makes me think that even a Swiss army knife in shoulder bag can get me conviction. Best is looking respectable and not get into any trouble, but what if I have to defend myself and while investigating the police finds the pocket knife, even if I have not used it?
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Perhaps you have the same "youth" problem that we have. A problem that is enormously increased together with the number of new people that are in your country.
 
Sphinx3000 said:
Perhaps you have the same "youth" problem that we have. A problem that is enormously increased together with the number of new people that are in your country.
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I personally have worked with the security issues of schools and vocational schools and have listened what police and social workers have had to say about the issue. The number and percentage of problem youths is small, most of those that you seem to be talking about are just normal kids. The problem piles up to a certain group of youths that are very difficult to reach. These youths commit most of the crimes. Then there is a larger group that hang around these "leaders" and are in danger of slipping into something more serious.

Criminologists identify stigma as one of the causes of crime. Young people who are repeatedly labeled as criminals are at risk of being marginalized and thereby slipping into crime. Therefore I resist this resent trend of labeling people as a problem without knowing anything about them.
 
HFinn said:
I personally have worked with the security issues of schools and vocational schools and have listened what police and social workers have had to say about the issue. The number and percentage of problem youths is small, most of those that you seem to be talking about are just normal kids. The problem piles up to a certain group of youths that are very difficult to reach. These youths commit most of the crimes. Then there is a larger group that hang around these "leaders" and are in danger of slipping into something more serious.

Criminologists identify stigma as one of the causes of crime. Young people who are repeatedly labeled as criminals are at risk of being marginalized and thereby slipping into crime. Therefore I resist this resent trend of labeling people as a problem without knowing anything about them.
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We never had these problems to the extent we do now. Almost all perpetrators have the same profile. Suppose you let 10 people in your country, and 2 of them are criminals, while among the indigenous population, 1 in 10 is a criminal; then the number of criminals has doubled. The authorities aren't equipped to handle that. The police can't handle it, the justice system can't, healthcare can't, and so on. This is something that's happening in the Netherlands now. I'm not saying there aren't any good people among them, because there are plenty of them. We're just not equipped to deal with the problems that a small portion of this group brings with them. The Netherlands has always been tolerant of migrants, and the fact that this is changing is truly due to the behavior of this group.

As you see in your own country, social workers and police officers are also unable to adequately address these people. This results in false solutions, such as banning (certain) knives. That's probably quite easy to implement compared with dealing with the troublemakers. In my opinion it is time to close the borders.
 
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