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Forget? What was this thread about, anyway?
Forget? What was this thread about, anyway?
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oops ..... strayed a bit ...So now I'm trying to work out how much cord. I really like the spectra but all I can really do is wrap it round the kit which only really gives me about 10 foot (enough 4 a bowstring & a gadget). I guess thats what I'll make do with. In the past I could fit heaps of dacron in the kit but it got too difficult to produce a bowstring from.
That type of bow construction is called "composite". As was pointed out, "compound" bows have wheels to increase the power of shorter limbs. Any time you use a variety of materials to make *anything*, it's a composite. Another type of composite bow would be the sinew or horn-backed type bows. I've never made any of these, I'm just clarifying terms.
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Possum good posts that ring true.My wife and father grew up on farms and we own 116 acres of farm land that her cousin works,who btw lost half his right arm via a pto.
One thing though, I know farmers work a lot but 130 hours a week? Theres only 168 hours in a week.You walk out the door at 4am and walk back in at 11pm?Seven days a week?
Possum good posts that ring true.My wife and father grew up on farms and we own 116 acres of farm land that her cousin works,who btw lost half his right arm via a pto.
One thing though, I know farmers work a lot but 130 hours a week? Theres only 168 hours in a week.You walk out the door at 4am and walk back in at 11pm?Seven days a week?
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thanks. You're right. Composite was the word I was trying to think of, not compound. I have a neat book on making sinew backed bows, but never tried it.
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Yeah, we work pretty hard during planting and harvest time. I should have mentioned that we of course slow down a bit in the winter and mid summer. We don't stop then, since we always have the cattle to take care of though. 130 hours a week comes to 5.43 hours of sleep a night on average, which is about right. Some nights I might get only 4, some nights 6 hours. We didn't even stop for the Lord on Sunday when things get that busy. I'd eat lunch while driving the tractor, and even peed off the side without stopping. Though, I'm a night owl, so my schedule was a bit later than the example you suggested. Be working by 6:30 or 7:00 am, and work 'till 1 or 2:00 in the morning.
thanks. You're right. Composite was the word I was trying to think of, not compound. I have a neat book on making sinew backed bows, but never tried it.
Lone Hunter-
Yeah, we work pretty hard during planting and harvest time. I should have mentioned that we of course slow down a bit in the winter and mid summer. We don't stop then, since we always have the cattle to take care of though. 130 hours a week comes to 5.43 hours of sleep a night on average, which is about right. Some nights I might get only 4, some nights 6 hours. We didn't even stop for the Lord on Sunday when things get that busy. I'd eat lunch while driving the tractor, and even peed off the side without stopping.
Though, I'm a night owl, so my schedule was a bit later than the example you suggested. Be working by 6:30 or 7:00 am, and work 'till 1 or 2:00 in the morning.- Joined
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Which Spectra cord do you mean? I have two types, the 3mm and the 50# test (dental floss sized) spyder wire fishing line. IIRC, the kit you use is the "altoids tin" box. I have such a box and used RTV to "glue" a pair of stainless steel mirrors to both top and bottom- which created a rectangular spool- around which I wound the 3mm spectra. The resulting package still fit into a pocket nicely, but gave 25' of line. It also had the advantage of signalling devices built right into the hit.
-carl
Which Spectra cord do you mean? I have two types, the 3mm and the 50# test (dental floss sized) spyder wire fishing line. IIRC, the kit you use is the "altoids tin" box. I have such a box and used RTV to "glue" a pair of stainless steel mirrors to both top and bottom- which created a rectangular spool- around which I wound the 3mm spectra. The resulting package still fit into a pocket nicely, but gave 25' of line. It also had the advantage of signalling devices built right into the hit.
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Carl,
The spectra I was referring to is the 3mm (700lb). I like it cos it doesn't stretch. There is another one that they use on speargun rubbers that is thinner and stronger but its like wire and costs more.
What you have done by creating a spool is a great idea. I use a S/S container I found in an Asian supermarket. It even has little clips welded to keep the lid on providing something to tie to. I wrap the cord round the kit and then cover it with cloth tape. I also have some around the handle of a knife.
This "altoids" name keeps appearing. I guess they're some kind of sweet or cough lolly like we used to get. The tin container was what I used till I found the S/S one which is roughly the same size.
The spectra I was referring to is the 3mm (700lb). I like it cos it doesn't stretch. There is another one that they use on speargun rubbers that is thinner and stronger but its like wire and costs more.
What you have done by creating a spool is a great idea. I use a S/S container I found in an Asian supermarket. It even has little clips welded to keep the lid on providing something to tie to. I wrap the cord round the kit and then cover it with cloth tape. I also have some around the handle of a knife.
This "altoids" name keeps appearing. I guess they're some kind of sweet or cough lolly like we used to get. The tin container was what I used till I found the S/S one which is roughly the same size.
A great way to carry a fairly large amount of cordage with minimal bulk is as follows: use 3 or 4 fingers of your off hand as a "spool" to wrap the cordage around. Once you've got what you feel is a proper amount of cordage, use the free end to wrap around the bundle (after taking it off your fingers). This gives you a cordage bundle that looks the way mountain climbers stow their rops, but by not having any kind of spool in the middle of the cordage, and wrapping it tightly, you can get a surprising amount of cordage put into a kit this way.
To make the cordage bundle even more versatile, you can then wrap snare wire around the cordage, and then finish it all off with a few wraps of duct tape. So in a bundle that's about 3x1 inches, you can easily get 30 feet of 165lb breaking strain twine, 15 or 20 feet of USGI tripwire for use as snare wire, and likely about 3 to 5 feet of duct tape. Such a bundle easily fits across the top of an Altoids tin, leaving most of the tin free for other goodies.
I've never spent much time learning to make cordage, so I always make sure to have plenty of it on-hand, since cordage is such an integral part of outdoors survival.
To make the cordage bundle even more versatile, you can then wrap snare wire around the cordage, and then finish it all off with a few wraps of duct tape. So in a bundle that's about 3x1 inches, you can easily get 30 feet of 165lb breaking strain twine, 15 or 20 feet of USGI tripwire for use as snare wire, and likely about 3 to 5 feet of duct tape. Such a bundle easily fits across the top of an Altoids tin, leaving most of the tin free for other goodies.
I've never spent much time learning to make cordage, so I always make sure to have plenty of it on-hand, since cordage is such an integral part of outdoors survival.
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I'm in total agreement with you. Heavy on the cordage! There is just too much in the way of super-strong and very light weight stuff out there (like Spectra) to be spending time making cordage and trying to make that do. (Note that I did not say one should be absolved of knowing how to make cordage).
-carl
I'm in total agreement with you. Heavy on the cordage! There is just too much in the way of super-strong and very light weight stuff out there (like Spectra) to be spending time making cordage and trying to make that do. (Note that I did not say one should be absolved of knowing how to make cordage).
-carl