Whats as tough as Strider folders????

Just got off the phone with the wife, and asked her about using the baton, and her answer was she has used the baton to do prying but in the case of the car doors when partially opened, and wedged to the point of needing something to pry with the gap in the opening was not enough to get the baton in the partial opening. Her words, and not mine. She said this was only one instance, and felt it worth mentioning as she "knows" a folding knife is not supposed to be a "prybar" but at the moment of emergency you have what you have at hand that will fit.
I was not there, and can only tell you what she said, and have to rely on her comman sense thoughts at the time.
I only posted this as they are not ordinary problems you or I would run into on a daily basis just hers.
It was a good question though, and she said a good answer by you but her situation did not allow the use of the baton.
Thanks for the input:)

Larry
 
My opinion... If you can use a folder as a prybar, because it was designed to take it... if you need to use it, go for it.

I'm looking at the buck strider, mainly because of the materials used, i dont like the fact that i couldnt take it apart without voiding the waranty. :(
 
Larry,

Thanks for the reply. I understand the situation and that sometimes you must do those abusive things with a knife. I appreciate you and your wife taking the time to share your insight.
My problem with this thread stems from the attitude of people seeking out a knife specifically to use in those situations. I simply don't like or understand that mindset. Yes, there are times when drastic steps are taken and tools are used in ways they are not designed for. That is going to happen and I fully understand it. I simply have a problem when people are looking for tools to specifically perform tasks they are clearly not a good choice to perform.
These are the situations carrying a small prybar in a toolbox or glovebox of a vehicle would be ideal. If you know you will be in situations where those things would be routinely required, then carry one.
Larry, your wife's situation is a little different. With a LEO, you never know where your duties will take you and all you have to rely on is simply what is on your person. In that case, you carry what you can legally get away with according to departmental guidelines and make use of what you have on hand.
Now, as far as toughness goes, I can find many quality folders that are ever bit as tough as a strider. Some may be thinner and more ergonomic, but still have super solid construction and materials designed to withstand abuse. I am in no way doubting the toughness of a Strider, I have simply yet to see anyone prove exactly how it is tougher then other quality folders on the market. I personally feel the size and weight of the Strider give people an illusion of toughness when they are in reality, no different then any good quality folder. They are good knives and even tough knives, but people tend to give them an indestructable status they don't truely deserve.

JR
 
Aniketos,

they just provided some new pics of the Tadgear AR and GB. They will be available like this and with the disruptive finish.

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I haven't used knives for serious prying, but I have put a couple of knives through chopping and stabbing that most others would not survive: specifically, the winners were a Cold Steel Vaquero Grande and two Greco folders, the hawksbill and droppoint. The three of them together don't come close to $200.

Anyone who thinks you can't pry with a "fold"er hasn't tried a Greco.
 
Big raffle is TODAY. I have a 1 in 9 chance to win a Strider SNG that Mike himself made for this passaround. Wish me luck ;)
 
It's not always possible to have exactly the right tools with you when you need them. In an emergency, a folder might see use that in other circumstances would be considered abuse. That's why I carry Sebenzas. I've never handled a Strider folder, so can't comment on them. The Sebenzas are simply the strongest folders I've ever owned.

My thoughts on some of the production knives mentioned in this thread are the following:

SERE 2000 - My SERE was the knife that convinced me never to buy another liner lock;

Benchmade 710 - A fine knife, an excellent choice for the money, but not quite in the same leaque as the Sebenza (and rightly so, considering how much cheaper it is);

SOG Tomcat - Another fine knife, strongest lockback I've ever seen, but, again, not quite on par with the Sebenza;

Spyderco Chinook - The blade tip is too thin to be a true hard use knife, and I felt that the lockup, while sturdy, was not quite as strong as that of the Tomcat.

Another economical hard use knife that hasn't been mentioned so far is the stainless steel Spyderco Pro Grip. VERY tough, but a little too heavy for my tastes, plus I hate the clip. I'd love to have a titanium handled Pro Grip, with a Harpy style clip. That would be a sweet knife.

Anway, getting back to the Sebenza, it's way more knife than my normal, day - to - day (office) use would require. However, I like having a knife with me that I know will perform in a pinch. And I have to say, it gives me pleasure to carry something as well designed, so perfectly functional, as the Sebenza.

With regard to the price, well, I've gotten to the point where I prefer having one excellent, extremely well made knife, rather than 3 or 4 (or more) more economic models. You can only carry so many knives, right?
 
Mr Lombardo,
I have to agree with on the Maxx and being one tough knife.

IF WAR IS HELL, TAKE A BETTER PITCHFORK THAN THE DEVIL
 
I think that the point of a folding knife is to split it's carry size in half and leave the sheath at home. I guess if you feel that you NEED a huge knife, then the overall huge package would be cut in half as well... but it would still be a huge package. It's still a big knife and easily as intimidating as a medium sixed fixed blade on your belt.

For the most part, we are discussing toys and preferences. Most $400 knives do not see any use. It's a toy that you fondle, cut apples with, and daydream of aiding you in saving the day! I am one of many who put them through some hard paces... pretty much just for sh!ts and grins... again... a toy. IMO Folders cover TWO things that fixed blades leave behind:

1. fun to play with. (open & close)
2. easier to carry than a fixed blade

Strider offers one TASTY cherry to the top...

3. an UNCONDITIONAL Warranty.

HOWEVER, even if Strider WILL replace your knife... It won't do anyone any immediate good if you try to pry something with it and it breaks. I would leave it as a LAST RESORT. There has to be the realization that all the force will be put on a screw. It won't be put on either head of the pin or screw, but where the head meets the screw. THIS is the weakest point OF the weakest point.

If this thread is about planning ahead... leave the toys at home and bring a Strider SLCC or SA! The good far outweighs the bad in a sence of them being fixed blades... The SA is small and has a 1/4" thick blade! AND I reckon the tip would be the only weak point... maybe the index finger choil??? My SA is ONE HELL of a cutter! In ats34, it cuts as well as any other knife I have... Edge retention is better on my sebbies (BG42 and S30V) but the ats34 sharpens quick and easy!

If this thread is about having the best knife/toy on the planet... well.... Get a Sebenza and leave the trends behind.

For me... I EDC a small Sebenza, and my SA aint too far behind.
 
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