What's better than an AFCK?

[Zytif]

The blade could close on your fingers. After you pull the knife out, it's possible you wouldn't know if the frame lock was engaged. And a similar thing could happen with Axis locks, your hand or something else could push the sliding bolt and there goes one of your fingers. It's probably not very likely that it would ever happen, but the possibility exists. And a stressful or fast paced situation would leave even more room for error. It's apples and oranges. Fast or safe. Revolvers or autos. Dependable or disposable. In an enviornment that required fast deployment I'd choose a fast opening knife. In a situation that requires tough and reliable I'll trust a traditional lockback.

I'd like to know how many hunters there are out there that use Axis locks for hunting knives? Couldn't a bone catch the axis closing the knife on your hand while field dressing game? I think it's possible in a situation like that. So it could also happen in other situations where you're working around stuff that could rub up againt the lock. If you pushed your knife so far into something that it passed the lock and you pulled up, you could find yourself holding a loaded mouse trap, unless you had a trained feel for your knife. It probably wouldn't happen. If the axis locks weren't as easy to push in it would be a slightly different story. Most lockbacks need more pounds/pressure to close. Which makes them safer.

Or if you find yourself in a struggle fighting some one that's trying to pull your knife away. They could slide the lock and use the knife against you without even holding it. All they'd have to do is push the blade down on your finger(s). I'd like to see that happen with a lockback concealed under your palm. It could NEVER happen with a lockback. Lockbacks are the safest folding knives on the market.

And with time a framelock will lose it's bend. (unless it's titanium)And springs will get weak and brittle. So for a truely 100% reliable pocket knife, it's the lockback for me.

Axis type locks were originally designed to be used against the person holding them. So send all your AFCKs to me and I'll dispose of them properly.

 

[calyth]

I don't necessarily think that the Renegade is an AFCK killer, but I certainly love the clip point look.
It is a bonus that such a good knife can be had for around $50USD, while often Benchmades cost more.
As to the lockbacks behind hard to close one handed, granted, when the lock is fresh, it's kinda hard. But I recall my first reaction to it is that the blade dropped as soon as I hit the lockbar. I suppose the steel liners helped. I found that if the blade is steel linered or steel handled, they tend to drop when the lock bar is pressed. There's enough unsharpened tang that unless you hold it too far down the handle, you shouldn't be able to let it bite you.
I sold the replacement the Spyderco send me (after they broke mine during their extreme testing) because I somehow don't have the attachment to it anymore, besides, I found an even better companion in the Terzuola Starmate.

 

[NGK-Webmaster]

I don't necessarily think that the Renegade is an AFCK killer, but I certainly love the clip point look

The Renegade won't be a AFCK killer at all, it's in limited production, the Renegades you see now are left over parts from the old Renegades, I guess Spyderco is just cleaning house and moving them out.

 

[calyth]

Tom, yeah I know they're cleaning their old parts. That's why I initially got the Renegade off you guys at a great price!